
Gwindor
13.05.2017
05:19:19

Justin
13.05.2017
05:20:22
*nod*

Gwindor
13.05.2017
05:20:46
Except it might be pactched better. :)

Justin
13.05.2017
05:22:17

Google

(■_■¬)
13.05.2017
05:23:09

Gwindor
13.05.2017
05:23:44
Our military still uses pirated Windows XP. But it is a consequence of not giving money to some bases to upgrade hardware and as a result, those PCs are usually not even in any kind of LAN and don't have any connection. And majority of ports removed, cases sealed, etc.

Michał
13.05.2017
06:00:58
I really, really admire low-tech solutions to complicated problems

Gwindor
13.05.2017
06:01:23

Michał
13.05.2017
06:01:53
also good morning

Swift110
13.05.2017
06:03:13
Hey all

Ghazwan Aliesh
13.05.2017
06:54:05
Mornin' guys, u might notice wannacry attack yesterday, my question is that could it attack Linux servers ?

Michał
13.05.2017
06:55:00
what of course does not mean that you shouldn't take normal security measures

Ghazwan Aliesh
13.05.2017
06:57:16

Michał
13.05.2017
07:00:21

Google

Ghazwan Aliesh
13.05.2017
07:04:41

Dio
13.05.2017
07:22:51

Kohane
13.05.2017
08:50:16
Affected by this issue too. ?
Happened to me months ago when I upgraded to Fedora 25. Now is working fine. But in QA we saw this issue last meeting. Looks like it shows up often... :-/
isolated cases maybe? they both work for me
Not at all. We saw this issue in QA. It works fine for me with Evolution. But there's a good number of people who's having this problem with Google and Gnome online accounts, Evolution and/or Thunderbird.
Things to do
You can do anything with Fedora. Perhaps would be better if you tell us first what things you fancy. What do you use your computer for?


Justin
13.05.2017
09:20:39

Kohane
13.05.2017
09:20:42
What are their usernames?
Ah, Itamar knew the Fedora Brazil one but I think he's not here anymore. Give me a moment, and I send you the other two.
@jflory7 This is Fedora L10n pt_BR . It's for people interested in translating to Brazilian Portuguese:
https://t.me/Fedora_L10n_pt_BR
And this is Fedora Packagers:
https://t.me/fedorapackager


Justin
13.05.2017
09:31:37

Michał
13.05.2017
09:38:22
I think now this is not completely true. Many places (offices, universities, etc) have Linux and most of people have heard of Linux, but they're convinced that is too hard to use it so they stick to the system they know.
Of course, there are people who are professionals in certain areas where the software they need only works in Apple or Windows, so they can't change.
It's not 100% true, but if you'd have to pick any school at random, any institution at random, any office at random, it is most probable that you will end up with Microsoft products. Schools teach MS Office, because that's what you'll use at work, at work you've got MS Office because that's what people know
also - "Nobody ever got fired for choosing Microsoft"

Kohane
13.05.2017
09:43:56

Google

Zamir
13.05.2017
09:55:40

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:04:54
Hiw agressive did that thing take over

(■_■¬)
13.05.2017
10:15:19

稀释
13.05.2017
10:17:54
lol

(■_■¬)
13.05.2017
10:18:40
The Linux at the Desktop Day finally arrived.

Denis
13.05.2017
10:18:44

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:18:44

(■_■¬)
13.05.2017
10:19:17

Michał
13.05.2017
10:19:38
also - let's not kid ourselves, if Linux would get 50% of userbase on the desktop, there would be such attacks on Linux as well.
Just like there are on Android now

(■_■¬)
13.05.2017
10:19:51

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:21:31
Most of the Servers in the World run Linux and half of them run on old versions - and many of them have never been broken into

Michał
13.05.2017
10:22:34

(■_■¬)
13.05.2017
10:22:38

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:23:34

Michał
13.05.2017
10:23:46
Linux is not a silver bullet, and it also has many holes, that will get exploited when it will be worth the attackers time to do so; right now linux userbase is so small that it's not worth it

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:23:59
Linux cant protect a manufacturer from being retarded

Martín
13.05.2017
10:24:02
But attacks are focused in users because it is easy be successful with naive users than admins

Google

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:24:29

Michał
13.05.2017
10:24:43
Dude, look at the server world.
Servers are usually taken care of by professionals, now imagine random people using Linux on their desktops. Same thing is going to happen.

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:25:39
The second you take over a linux server you have hundreds to thousands of users ready to download whatever you want or driveby exploit. there is a massive incentive doing so and there is very little success in it.

Martín
13.05.2017
10:25:46
Exactly

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:25:58

Michael
13.05.2017
10:26:13

Michał
13.05.2017
10:26:13

Martín
13.05.2017
10:26:18
Though software repositories are safer than Windows way

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:26:40

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:26:49
But its a heck of a lot of work
After going trough root/toor:22
Again, if you arent a breathing single braincell and use a 4 letter password to authenticate for root you are very unlikely to be hit by a random attack, especially if you keep your system updated

Michał
13.05.2017
10:31:50

Martín
13.05.2017
10:32:27
Attacks will be increased
But I think that less users than in Windows would be affected
With few indications

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:34:33

Google

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:35:03
How many attacks could be evaded if users updated timely and eventually would switch to new versions?

Martín
13.05.2017
10:35:18
Very few users will change to Linux with no knowledge, they progressively will change by advises

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:35:24
What does Fedora show you totally unintrusive but openly?
"click to update/click to get the new version"

Michał
13.05.2017
10:36:53
Actually, yes.
so switching to linux would make people more intelligent automatically? ?

Tobias?
13.05.2017
10:38:15
no updates.
Fedo 24 - click to switch for free!
And choco didnt pick up
I would kindly ask Fedora to enable the tiny "Install Updates" checkbox on shutdown by default if that happens tough

Martín
13.05.2017
10:54:56
Maybe Raspberry Pi contribute to the migration

Gwindor
13.05.2017
11:01:48
Good evening, people.

Niteen
13.05.2017
11:04:25
Good evening

稀释
13.05.2017
11:06:06
Good evening

Gwindor
13.05.2017
11:07:57

Tobias?
13.05.2017
11:10:13

Gwindor
13.05.2017
11:11:55

Tobias?
13.05.2017
11:12:28
You can always turn it off forever

Gwindor
13.05.2017
11:13:16
Though, I think such popup would be tied to Gnome.

Tobias?
13.05.2017
11:13:23
But by default (as it is right now) Users should be notified that there _is_ an update