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Tobias?

11.05.2017
19:21:53

Weird stuff? Now I'm curious! I want a pack with cute little things and weird stuff!! ?

XD

Marc

11.05.2017
19:21:59

BSD is dying.

But that's not new, err, not GNU.

ヤンデレ (Tristan)

11.05.2017
19:22:39

Well BSD will be ever alive in macOS

Google

Eduard

11.05.2017
19:22:47

"It uses gnu coreutils and is compiled with gcc, so it's GNU/NetBSD or GNU plus NetBSD"

?

Marc

11.05.2017
19:23:27

NetBSD does not use gnu coreutils, and you can as well use clang/llvm.

GnuBSD

Gnu's Not Unix Linux. How stupid does that sound ??

天荣

11.05.2017
19:32:20

NetBSD does not use gnu coreutils, and you can as well use clang/llvm.

Alpine, Void Linux

:3

LinuxIRC

11.05.2017
19:35:01

DiRT Rally is now 70% off @ Steam ?

Andrea

11.05.2017
19:40:03

DiRT Rally is now 70% off @ Steam ?

With steam for linux?

Michel Alexandre

11.05.2017
19:41:03

friends don't let friends run Windows https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/05/hp-laptops-covert-log-every-keystroke-researchers-warn/

LinuxIRC

11.05.2017
19:42:17

With steam for linux?

Yes

DiRT Rally has a Linux port, and a fine one too

Andrea

11.05.2017
19:43:29

Oh sounds good

Google

Andrea

11.05.2017
19:43:37

Thanks @Kopimi

Justin

11.05.2017
20:12:18

Well-played, Microsoft… well-played https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/5/11/15625320/ubuntu-suse-linux-fedora-windows-store-microsoft-build-2017

William José Moreno Reyes

11.05.2017
20:15:48

@mbalmer I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Richard Stallman aproves this message ?

Eduard

11.05.2017
20:17:45

Being on the Windows Store also means that the distros will be able to work on the education-focused Windows 10S. This could give Microsoft an extra edge in appealing to computer science and engineering students who may want access to the open-source operating system for developing code. Is someone against targeting students like marketing strategy anymore?

Marc

11.05.2017
20:18:55

Richard Stallman aproves this message ?

That makes it even worse.

William José Moreno Reyes

11.05.2017
20:19:51

Being on the Windows Store also means that the distros will be able to work on the education-focused Windows 10S. This could give Microsoft an extra edge in appealing to computer science and engineering students who may want access to the open-source operating system for developing code. Is someone against targeting students like marketing strategy anymore?

It is a gold move

Offers linux tools to developers inside windows is a agresive strstegi

天荣

11.05.2017
20:34:03

It is a gold move

Is it?

I think it's a pretty pathetic move :P

In any case... Windows 10S can only run approved Windows apps but no restrictions for the Linux subsystem?

What was this security they were talking about hmmm?

Nah, just another way to make people shell out a few more bucks for the same unfinished product.

Tobias?

11.05.2017
21:10:13

Offers linux tools to developers inside windows is a agresive strstegi

We tend to call it "Embrace Extend Extinguish"

Justin

11.05.2017
21:32:51

Is it?

G isn't far from B. Could have meant a bold move, which to that, I'd agree. I also think it's a golden move for Microsoft because it *is* aggressive.

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:47:23

I'd wish they'd hide their Attempts better. It was hard enough to get my boss to give up his strict Windows ruling and have me have my way and being productive and loving every stability-increasing update instead of spending days going trough firewall logs and fearing the next update will break all my progress on stopping the endless spying

And its not going to be easier to talk the next Employer out of it - atleast i have adopted asking for what OS is dictated or allowed to be developed on first nowadays.

天荣

11.05.2017
22:48:49

I'd just use Hyper-V if I was in that situation

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:48:57

I'd just use Hyper-V if I was in that situation

I wouldnt.

(■_■¬)

11.05.2017
22:49:24

I think it's a pretty pathetic move :P

This ^, like enabling evil mode on emacs to use vim keybidings, why not simply use Vim?. The same goes to this behavior, why use Linux inside Windows if you can use Linux on bare metal? I think this is targeted to dumbs.

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:49:43

If i cant trust the Host running the Vm to _not_ pass my keystrokes for better predicting anyway i would still refuse to use it

Google

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:50:01

I am okay with the other Way around tough - Windows tighly locked down in a KVM

天荣

11.05.2017
22:50:06

I mean ??‍♂️ if you literally *cannot* use a decent OS...

You can at least virtualise a decent one

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:50:20

I mean ??‍♂️ if you literally *cannot* use a decent OS...

I won't work there.

Quinten

11.05.2017
22:50:28

This ^, like enabling evil mode on emacs to use vim keybidings, why not simply use Vim?. The same goes to this behavior, why use Linux inside Windows if you can use Linux on bare metal? I think this is targeted to dumbs.

In the first case, Emacs actually might offer stuff that could improve your experience

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:50:33

You can at least virtualise a decent one

No replacement

天荣

11.05.2017
22:50:35

I won't work there.

That's also what I was going to tell you, too.

But sometimes there is no real choice so~

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:51:19

That's also what I was going to tell you, too.

I didnt take my Chance at my first Employer tough - but he got around. We open-sourced half the Things the Company uses

VMware => KVM FritzShit as Router => LEDE Wrt1900 Series My PC now runs Fedora 25 and i eagerly await 26 (night mode ❤️)

(■_■¬)

11.05.2017
22:52:32

In the first case, Emacs actually might offer stuff that could improve your experience

sigh

Quinten

11.05.2017
22:52:56

What if I want to play Tetris in my editor?

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:53:11

And in all Cases the open Source Variants perform much better, especially the KVM + SoftwareRaid over Vmware + HWRaid

J.

11.05.2017
22:53:14

VMware => KVM FritzShit as Router => LEDE Wrt1900 Series My PC now runs Fedora 25 and i eagerly await 26 (night mode ❤️)

do you mind explain me openwrt/lede split?

天荣

11.05.2017
22:53:23

I won't use Emacs until I can run GNOME Shell inside Emacs

(■_■¬)

11.05.2017
22:54:10

I won't use Emacs until I can run GNOME Shell inside Emacs

?

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:54:21

do you mind explain me openwrt/lede split?

Openwrt moved slow and died down with pretty nailed down development Lede decided to pick up the speed and force build the newest versions for all routers

天荣

11.05.2017
22:54:28

seriously, it has tetris but doesn't have GNOME Shell?

bah!

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:54:37

LEDE runs oWRT 17 Equivalent

Google

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:54:43

On all supported Routers

seriously, it has tetris but doesn't have GNOME Shell?

Needs a displaymanager with native javascript support first

We should pass trough all user calles js from all browsers to the gdm for speedup :^)

XD

J.

11.05.2017
22:57:10

Openwrt moved slow and died down with pretty nailed down development Lede decided to pick up the speed and force build the newest versions for all routers

thanks!

Tobias?

11.05.2017
22:58:03

Actually Gnome supporting JS and all that fancy stuff is quite amazing - press alt*f2, enter "lg" and use the pipette at the top left

天荣

11.05.2017
23:00:46

Needs a displaymanager with native javascript support first

/home/tobias/.emacs/bin/bash

Admin

ERROR: S client not available

Tobias?

11.05.2017
23:01:33

/home/tobias/.emacs/bin/bash

ls: Zugriff auf '/home/tobias/.emacs' nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

Aka "File not found :3)

天荣

11.05.2017
23:12:20

Aw how cute

My USB 2.0 pendrive is slower than my fibre Internet

:P

Tobias?

11.05.2017
23:14:37

Want ;-;

I had it in University - now i jog along at 16Mbit/s

Gwindor

12.05.2017
01:07:54

Good morning, everybody.

稀释

12.05.2017
02:22:16

Good morning

Kohane

12.05.2017
02:29:46

Good morning, everybody.

Good morning, sir

Good morning @ouyangjun1999 Nice profile pic. :D

Google

稀释

12.05.2017
02:30:41

????

Kohane

12.05.2017
02:31:01

Your profile pics are very particular, but very nice.

稀释

12.05.2017
02:31:58

You said it twice

Thanks

My gmail is also used this

Justin

12.05.2017
02:35:34

Good morning, everybody.

Good morning all! ?

Almost at 900 members. :) Wonder how long until we break 1000!

Gwindor

12.05.2017
02:42:18

:D

Eduard

12.05.2017
02:46:18

Is still Google auth failing in gnome and Thunderbird???

Justin

12.05.2017
02:47:16

Is still Google auth failing in gnome and Thunderbird???

You mean now or generally? I signed into my Google accounts earlier this morning from Thunderbird.

Eduard

12.05.2017
02:48:25

Well, it was failing since the changed api. I was just using it via web, but I fear that opening Thunderbird aftet 3 days can last too much to download all the emails

Michał