And I loved how I can edit text without a mouse.

Well, now I remember a few of shortcuts. deleting lines, symbols, saving and exiting..

LibreCAD/Openscad and Fritzing allow you to use the full engineering Spectrum

They're not as convenient for me as T-Flex and WinMachines (which is a nightmare, but it gets the job done fairly easy).

And HJKL ofc.

which is still better than vi XD

which is still better than emacs XD

I find it convenient for basic text editing.

for really basic text editing you can try Xi editor ?: https://github.com/google/xi-editor

For Mac ✌️

They're not as convenient for me as T-Flex and WinMachines (which is a nightmare, but it gets the job done fairly easy).

I hear (I never think too much about it) that some people are using blender for CAD with the only issue of exporting the file

for really basic text editing you can try Xi editor ?: https://github.com/google/xi-editor

No need :/

I still use Vim on Mac

VS Code is really good and maybe it's the best M$ product.

Microsoft Office is good, in spite of its own format

Microsoft Office is good, in spite of its own format

Nope, it's pretty terrible.

Nope, it's pretty terrible.

Like any other *office* :P

VS code is not bad and can debug Rust ?, with a plugin

Microsoft Office is the least bad of Office suites.

But it is pretty terrible by itself...

for really basic text editing you can try Xi editor ?: https://github.com/google/xi-editor

i just use butterflies, thank you XD

also someone made a very basic text editor for zsh, which is just "display buffer, arrow key move, type and delete"

I suppose that you recommend a made in home system adapted to your needs

if it is the least bad it is the best ?

if it is the least bad it is the best ?

Nah, that would be unfair.

I have not used Office for a long time, but Microsoft Office was not bad and you can customize your shortcuts and menus

the dependece of Microsoft is terrible due to its propietary format, that LlbreOffice does not render exactly equal

I use excel almost daily, I'm not ashamed for that

it is the worst obstacle

the dependece of Microsoft is terrible due to its propietary format, that LlbreOffice does not render exactly equal

That's not LO's fault.

Still, Microsoft Office is a terrible office suite.

Also LibreOffice Calc has less functions than Excel

Also LibreOffice Calc has less functions than Excel

not having vbscript is a feature.

That's not LO's fault.

of course, I was trying to critic Microsoft ??

and it makes difficult to migrate to Linux in a lot of cases

people could become familiar to LibreOffice interface if documents and spreadsheets were equal in both office suites

people could become familiar to LibreOffice interface if documents and spreadsheets were equal in both office suites

I wonder why M$ office 2017 lags in Virtual Box when the other stuff like Firefox works good.

I suppose it is heavier

my father has a big Word document and it longs to save too much time in Word 2013 ?

I suppose it is heavier

Uses less ram and cpu time.

the document is not light, but it longs too much, some minutes

Uses less ram and cpu time.

No idea about it then, maybe disk load?

No idea about it then, maybe disk load?

Nope.

I can record it.

I wonder why M$ office 2017 lags in Virtual Box when the other stuff like Firefox works good.

Try Kvm with Spice Drivers

VBox never had any amazing Performance for me

Try Kvm with Spice Drivers

Spice Drivers? .-.

VirtualBox is rather subpar indeed.

Spice Drivers? .-.

spice-space.org/download

People just insist on it but it is meh.

KVM uses spice as renderer

well, display output

spice-space.org/download

and to allow windows full access you need to install the guest tools from there if you are using a spice+kvm setup

Display output in Vbox is fast enough.

VirtualBox is nice on my mac, allows me to run fedora, RHEL, CentOS...

Display output in Vbox is fast enough.

Excel does some fuckery tough on it with trying to use the gpu to render and all me thinks

just there is currently a wayland regression in fedora, so you have to use X.Org

VirtualBox is nice on my mac, allows me to run fedora, RHEL, CentOS...

Ugh, no.

Just use VMWare or Parallels.

Tust me.

Excel does some fuckery tough on it with trying to use the gpu to render and all me thinks

Well, maybe that's why it lags.

Just use VMWare or Parallels.

this. Kvm on Linux, Parallels on all other Systems

Well, maybe that's why it lags.

Kvm maybe could get around that

Worth a try imho

I use VMWare Workstation before. Is it better? What is different?

Worth a try imho

Not now/

I use VMWare Workstation before. Is it better? What is different?

Its faster mostly

I use VMWare Workstation before. Is it better? What is different?

Not workstation.

Better Shared Directories and Network Drivers and gpu acceleration in beta

ERROR: S client not available

Vmware Fusion.

Mac doesn't have Workstation.

yes, that's the one I used.

I went for VirtualBox because it's available on all platforms.

And it is fast enough, even if I run four machines in parallel.

The main pro of Windows is having positioned as the most used OS

I don't see this as a feature of the system itself. They're there because it comes preinstalled in hundreds and thousands computers.

yes.

my most used OS is, funny enough, Linux.

I don't see this as a feature of the system itself. They're there because it comes preinstalled in hundreds and thousands computers.

This.

Here.

my most used OS is, funny enough, Linux.

let me just interject for a moment

Aw, so cute... ?

And it is fast enough, even if I run four machines in parallel.

Four, how cute :3

I don't see this as a feature of the system itself. They're there because it comes preinstalled in hundreds and thousands computers.

Of course, it is only the reason of its success and programs only for Windows

my most used OS is, funny enough, Linux.

Mine too.

Aw, so cute... ?

i always pack little Things in packages ^^

Of course, it is only the reason of its success and programs only for Windows

Oh, I understood "pro" like in "pros & cons".

tan, what do you interject?

you know what i interject

youve seen it a thousand times

i always pack little Things in packages ^^

I want one of those packages, just for cutie little thing ?

I want one of those packages, just for cutie little thing ?

If i know a Person better i pack weird stuff in it so dont look too forward to such a thing XD

tan, ??

It can be any AFAIK...

If i know a Person better i pack weird stuff in it so dont look too forward to such a thing XD

Weird stuff? Now I'm curious! I want a pack with cute little things and weird stuff!! ?

@mbalmer I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Really?

See ya

And all the world just calls it "Linux". And so do I. And it's funny only becaus I am a NetBSD developer...

At least NetBSD is NetBSD and not GNU/NetBSD ;)

LoL