Though, I think such popup would be tied to Gnome.

KDE does it aswell afaik?

Not sure

I use i3.

In that case you obviously dont need to be reminded of updates

Kill it with fire. I update when I update. It is a manual process for me. What if after an update, a VMware would stop working? I need it at least four days a week.

Uh

Manual updates, like manual backups, are terrible practice...

Manual updates, like manual backups, are terrible practice...

Automatic updates don't fit me.

Again, if it will suddenly autoupdate and suddenly 3rd party software I use would stop work, I would loose a day in university.

I update every weekend, follow critical updates and patch them as they are out as well.

Stable OSes like CentOS and Debian don't suffer this though

If an OS breaks on updates you need to rethink your use case...

Fedora isn't among stable OSes in that case.

If an OS breaks on updates you need to rethink your use case...

3rd party soft isn't OS.

VMWare Workstation is a 3rd party software.

Sunday Updates aren't bad tough

or Saturday

Usually Saturday for me. Or Friday evening.

I am just against Users that fear to update or think shit things will happen (understandable if coming from Windows) and refuse to update for much longer timespans

Like monthly or longer update spans

❤️

Gonna use it as main OS?

Yep

That is

If I can install it

CentOS wouldn't boot here

CentOS wouldn't boot here

But RH is same....

Not exactly the same though

What is the little red square in those screens? I'm sorry but I can't read what it says and I never seen it before,

Russian hackers on vacation in Spain. :p

LOL

What is the little red square in those screens? I'm sorry but I can't read what it says and I never seen it before,

It's the malware outbreak that took place yesterday

Imagine all the shitty systems from the US Army that relies on Windows XP.

As long as they don't start sending missiles randomly.....

Missed the group photo ?

Missed the group photo ?

Thus was informal, we're looking at doing one during the community meetup tomorrow! Would love to have you with us for it. :D

@itamarjp?

y

Ah, Itamar knew the Fedora Brazil one but I think he's not here anymore. Give me a moment, and I send you the other two.

@itamarjp Do you know the username?

Hi team!

Hi team!

Good morning from Tirana!

Good morning from Tirana!

o/ from Chile

Good evening everybody. :)

Team Red and Team Blue...Nice ?

Team Red and Team Blue...Nice ?

Heh, that's the way it worked out :)

Happened to me months ago when I upgraded to Fedora 25. Now is working fine. But in QA we saw this issue last meeting. Looks like it shows up often... :-/

Well, no further update of Thunderbird on Debian Sid for now. ??

fedora brazilian group on telegram

@fedorabr

a thing is intriguing me ?: I have intalled in Fedora Cinnamon Firefox and Firefox Developer Edition. I have changed the icon of Firefox Developer Edition in /usr/share/apps and also its links to the correct icon. I have changed the name of the process too. However, in open applications list and Alt+Tab it appears with Firefox icon. Do someone know how is mapped the icon in these places? Thank you!

a thing is intriguing me ?: I have intalled in Fedora Cinnamon Firefox and Firefox Developer Edition. I have changed the icon of Firefox Developer Edition in /usr/share/apps and also its links to the correct icon. I have changed the name of the process too. However, in open applications list and Alt+Tab it appears with Firefox icon. Do someone know how is mapped the icon in these places? Thank you!

In Gnome System Monitor it appears without icon

As long as they don't start sending missiles randomly.....

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Hello folks! I installed Plasma a week or so ago and decided to play with it. Well, it's failing. There is no window borders, the tasks manager doesn't show the open windows, System Settings crashes and activities in general don't work. Any idea of what could possibly be wrong? Is KDE 5.9

Hello folks! I installed Plasma a week or so ago and decided to play with it. Well, it's failing. There is no window borders, the tasks manager doesn't show the open windows, System Settings crashes and activities in general don't work. Any idea of what could possibly be wrong? Is KDE 5.9

Create a new user account. Don't mix Gnome/etc and Plasma configs in one user profile.

Create a new user account. Don't mix Gnome/etc and Plasma configs in one user profile.

Why? I never had any issues before. What changed now?

BTW, dnfdragora offers me two versions of KDE 5.8 and 5.9 Which one is more stable? What should I install?

Why? I never had any issues before. What changed now?

Gnome and KDE will try to overwrite each other's configs.

Gnome and KDE will try to overwrite each other's configs.

Weird. It never happened to me before. And I had KDE and Gnome installed together quite often.

Gnome and KDE will try to overwrite each other's configs.

They didn't read / write from seperate config files? ?

Also, when I tried KDE after installing it, it worked. No problems so far. Problems started now. I think I updated KDE stuff days ago. Something went wrong there?

They didn't read / write from seperate config files? ?

AFAIK yes

They didn't read / write from seperate config files? ?

They have own configs, ofc, but sometimes they are trying to patch GTK/Qt themes and configs, which cause problems for other installed DEs.

Yeah, but this problem is new. Never happened before. And it's not the first time I use KDE & Gnome in the same installation.

Maybe there's something missing? Some package that I should install?

Welcome to Fedora on Telegram! Here's what you need to know. === Group info / rules === (1) Always use English (it's an international chat with people around the world) (2) Stay on topic to Fedora, Fedora-related things, or free and open source software (3) Follow Fedora's Code of Conduct (https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct) === Telegram / IRC bridge === This Telegram group is linked to an IRC channel on irc.freenode.net using a Telegram <=> IRC bridge. Join #fedora-telegram on freenode to participate via IRC. === Other Fedora communities === There's a few other Fedora groups on Telegram for specific languages or countries. There's also some groups about software included in Fedora. You can find some of them below. — Chinese-speaking: @fedorazh Spanish-speaking: @fedoraesp Russian-speaking: @russianfedora — Albania: @FedoraAlbania Brazil: @fedorabr Germany / Austria / Switzerland: @fedoradach India: @fedoraindia Indonesia: @FedoraID Latin / South America: @fedoralatam Portugal: @fedoraportugal — Document Foundation (announce channel): @tdforg Fedora Brazilian Portuguese localization: @Fedora_L10n_pt_BR Fedora packagers: @fedorapackager Free & Open Source: @freeopensource LibreOffice: @libreoffice Linux: @linux_group NextCloud: @Nextcloud — If you want your community added here, please message me directly. === Need help? === Feel free to reach out to myself or another admin if you have any concerns or private questions. The current administrators of this group are: * @jflory7 * @Kohane * @sesivany * @ignatenkobrain * @bexelbie * @michalrud * @AnXh3L0

Welcome to Fedora on Telegram! Here's what you need to know. === Group info / rules === (1) Always use English (it's an international chat with people around the world) (2) Stay on topic to Fedora, Fedora-related things, or free and open source software (3) Follow Fedora's Code of Conduct (https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct) === Telegram / IRC bridge === This Telegram group is linked to an IRC channel on irc.freenode.net using a Telegram <=> IRC bridge. Join #fedora-telegram on freenode to participate via IRC. === Other Fedora communities === There's a few other Fedora groups on Telegram for specific languages or countries. There's also some groups about software included in Fedora. You can find some of them below. — Chinese-speaking: @fedorazh Spanish-speaking: @fedoraesp Russian-speaking: @russianfedora — Albania: @FedoraAlbania Brazil: @fedorabr Germany / Austria / Switzerland: @fedoradach India: @fedoraindia Indonesia: @FedoraID Latin / South America: @fedoralatam Portugal: @fedoraportugal — Document Foundation (announce channel): @tdforg Fedora Brazilian Portuguese localization: @Fedora_L10n_pt_BR Fedora packagers: @fedorapackager Free & Open Source: @freeopensource LibreOffice: @libreoffice Linux: @linux_group NextCloud: @Nextcloud — If you want your community added here, please message me directly. === Need help? === Feel free to reach out to myself or another admin if you have any concerns or private questions. The current administrators of this group are: * @jflory7 * @Kohane * @sesivany * @ignatenkobrain * @bexelbie * @michalrud * @AnXh3L0

New communities ahead per feedback from Kohane and @itamarjp :)

is @linux_group a related group?

is @linux_group a related group?

Oh, hmm. Sure, why not? I'll edit it in now.

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Interesting, they're almost exactly the same size as us too

Interesting, they're almost exactly the same size as us too

Well, now the exact same size. ?

haha

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is @linux_group a related group?

Now I think about it, is a Debian community a related group?

Mozilla Open Design Mozilla Open Design aims to bring open source principles to Creative Design. https://t.me/opendesign

let me interject for a moment: what you call "gnu/linux" is a mere set of programs that hijack the mightly linux kernal.

to create an illusion of GNU system

let me interject for a moment: what you call "gnu/linux" is a mere set of programs that hijack the mightly linux kernal.

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Interesting! How did you generate this?

Well, I installed some stuff and will see if it works now. If not, I'll try making a new user. But I don't think that's a solution. It used to work fine without fidling with users. :-/

http://github.com/expectocode/telegram-analysis

Now I think about it, is a Debian community a related group?

Hmm, I don't think so. My idea with the community groups was that they should be groups that are relevant to Fedora users or contributors, like software on Fedora or projects about Fedora. I guess a larger Linux group is cheating a bit, but I still feel like Linux, as a kernel, counts for that.

you'd use the venn_userlist or venn_chatlog scripts to make something like that

http://github.com/expectocode/telegram-analysis

Nice… this is cool.

Hmm, I don't think so. My idea with the community groups was that they should be groups that are relevant to Fedora users or contributors, like software on Fedora or projects about Fedora. I guess a larger Linux group is cheating a bit, but I still feel like Linux, as a kernel, counts for that.

Okay, fair enough.

Nice… this is cool.

thank you!

i'm currently working on cleaning up the code in a big way

After installing some stuff, it got worse. Now kdeinit fails to start so no KDE session at all. Any thoughts, please?

Guys, if I had that wannacry attack on a red hat machine, could the commercial support save my life ? Just out of curiosity I don't have red hat server now

Unlikely

They could try to restore data

But very unlikely

Guys, if I had that wannacry attack on a red hat machine, could the commercial support save my life ? Just out of curiosity I don't have red hat server now

They should. You pay Red Hat for their support. But they don't make miracles, you know.

They should. You pay Red Hat for their support. But they don't make miracles, you know.

^

But very unlikely

So what is commercial support's benefits ?

So what is commercial support's benefits ?

Against a ransomware, none

Against other eventualities or occasional problems, well...

You don't need to hire a sysadmin

They do the work for you.

Linux or GNU/linux which is true ?