@fedora
Alex Irmel26.02.2017
14:18:52
14:18:52
Sorry guys, yesterday I was bussy
Google
Gwindor26.02.2017
14:22:47
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In 1800s
Michał26.02.2017
14:22:59
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I'm starting to fell trolled by this whole discussion
Tobias?26.02.2017
14:25:48
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And ideal world is in 2000s
2012*
German Schools undergo a Countrywide Replacement and Funding currently because most were stuck at XP - every School Room can now get a Projector, all Pupils can get a Pc trough a School Help Program and Schools can get, depending on Size, atleast one full Computer Cabinet (24 pcs + Lockable Charging Station), up to four if its a really large oneGwindor26.02.2017
14:26:24
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Meanwhile, we have WindowsME computers here in school.
Tobias?26.02.2017
14:26:27
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Parents are required to help funding a tiny amount of it tough
Michał26.02.2017
14:26:41
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2012*
German Schools undergo a Countrywide Replacement and Funding currently because most were stuck at XP - every School Room can now get a Projector, all Pupils can get a Pc trough a School Help Program and Schools can get, depending on Size, atleast one full Computer Cabinet (24 pcs + Lockable Charging Station), up to four if its a really large one
That's cool for Germany, are you aware that many countries in Africa, South America or Asia can only dream of it?Tobias?26.02.2017
14:26:42
14:26:42
500 or 600 per kid me thinks
That's cool for Germany, are you aware that many countries in Africa, South America or Asia can only dream of it?
They'll get there eventuallyAnd in the Meantime they can get ARM64
Michał26.02.2017
14:27:24
14:27:24
am I being trolled right now?
Gwindor26.02.2017
14:27:28
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Like, you seem not to get the main issue.
They don't have ANY money to update.
GoogleGwindor26.02.2017
14:27:39
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Not a penny.
Michał26.02.2017
14:27:48
14:27:48
some people would consider it making it in life by making 500eur/month and it's a "tiny amount" for you
Gwindor26.02.2017
14:28:11
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Tobias?26.02.2017
14:28:18
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some people would consider it making it in life by making 500eur/month and it's a "tiny amount" for you
Because it averages the German RentPer Person
Gwindor26.02.2017
14:28:23
14:28:23
500EUR/month, hell, I can't even dream of it.
Michał26.02.2017
14:28:30
14:28:30
that's, like, majority of earth's population
Tobias?26.02.2017
14:28:44
14:28:44
500EUR/month, hell, I can't even dream of it.
Easy: come here and i enploy you as Cleaning maid for thatTobias?26.02.2017
14:28:55
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XD
Gwindor26.02.2017
14:29:14
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So, you count people of other countries being fit only to clean your houses?
Fuck you with that mindset.
Michał26.02.2017
14:29:28
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Easy: come here and i enploy you as Cleaning maid for that
I consider it the end of any serious discussionTobias?26.02.2017
14:29:49
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But i digress, there is the one laptop per Child Program and all - and those get sane Hardware to Poor Families
Kohane26.02.2017
14:30:01
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okay guys and girls I have a question from the "which distro to use" genre, but this time is't a bit more complicated as I have:
- 32-bit ~500MHz processor
- 256MB RAM
- 256MB hdd with no real way to change it (other than using an USB flash drive maybe)
No need for graphical interface. I am at the point of thinking about rolling something myself with yocto :D
I would would go for Debian. I had it in very old machines and worked flawlessly.Tobias?26.02.2017
14:30:29
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So, you count people of other countries being fit only to clean your houses?
Wow. you did neither get the Innuendo nor did you see the SatireAlex Irmel26.02.2017
14:30:46
14:30:46
What do you want exactly
I'm developing my thesis about application of SaaS model to a small bussiness group, I'm in the initial phases and want to get some help with some platform or platform like innomatic (www.innomatic.io) that is developed in php to save up up efforts.Gwindor26.02.2017
14:31:56
14:31:56
Wow. you did neither get the Innuendo nor did you see the Satire
Welp, we had a pretty serious discussion. No place for innuendo and/or satire.Tobias?26.02.2017
14:33:03
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Welp, we had a pretty serious discussion. No place for innuendo and/or satire.
You do know that as Developer i see People from different Countries and their Skills from all over the World - and every Country has "Consider becoming a Gardener" Programmers and others that could say the same to me.GoogleAlex Irmel26.02.2017
14:33:52
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I don't need build the web application :)
In anyway Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis, first you need to choose a language, if you have skills in pyrhon maybe you can choose Django or Flask. if you use JavaScript you can use angular.js, etc.
Create a single webapp is not complex, we have many options to develop itTobias?26.02.2017
14:34:55
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One is humbled by how much Skill some Individuals have, from all over the World - we just have the Luck to have more of those because we grow up with Computers. And we need to get more, and expecially more recent Models out there
And not in the "We dump several illegal Tons of Electrical Components in Africa every Day" Way we do right now
Alex Irmel26.02.2017
14:35:56
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Later, if you need a platform to build your web applications to deliver them as SaaS you can use OpenShift (a very cool platform). But isn't easy to adopt
The multitenancy feature will come with a different level.Tobias?26.02.2017
14:36:12
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Or else we will have a Flood of really cool Software that nobody can run because its written for 32-bit ME
Michał26.02.2017
14:36:39
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I would would go for Debian. I had it in very old machines and worked flawlessly.
I think I would try Debian, they have that it requires 2GB of disk space, but looking deeper in the documentation it should be possible to trim it downTobias?26.02.2017
14:36:41
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And not Platform-independent Languages that scale with Core and Core Speed
Kohane26.02.2017
14:39:57
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I think I would try Debian, they have that it requires 2GB of disk space, but looking deeper in the documentation it should be possible to trim it down
Oh, I didn't realise that it says *megabytes* and not gigabytes. ?
Sorry.Michał26.02.2017
14:40:36
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Oh, I didn't realise that it says *megabytes* and not gigabytes. ?
Sorry.
That's the main issue I have with modern distros when trying to put them on that old boy :D but no pain no gainTobias?26.02.2017
14:40:56
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One could use a modern-ish Distro and put /boot on the 256mb storage
and / on USB
But that Pc sounds like USB 2.0 or even 1.0....
Tobias?26.02.2017
14:41:20
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Which would lead to abysmal Performance
Michał26.02.2017
14:41:42
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That's what I'm considering to do next, and seriously, this computer will be slow as hell no matter what ;)
Gwindor26.02.2017
14:41:47
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USB2.0 is enough, but it seems like it's top is 1.2
Michał26.02.2017
14:42:01
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but fast enough to run vim + tmux + gcc
Kohane26.02.2017
14:42:16
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1. EU has special programmes to donate new computers to schools
2. Been in an school in a remore rural area lately? ;)
Some countries in Latin America have this kind of programmes. The first Netbooks were 32-bits, but now they're 64.Gwindor26.02.2017
14:55:14
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Some countries in Latin America have this kind of programmes. The first Netbooks were 32-bits, but now they're 64.
On previous workplace, my workpc had 400MHz Celeron-AOr 466MHz
Michał26.02.2017
15:11:45
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On previous workplace, my workpc had 400MHz Celeron-A
Welcome to Poland: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a23139/commodore-64-repair-shop/ ?GoogleGwindor26.02.2017
15:11:58
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We don't have C64 here. But there are some Spectrume clones around. Though, their owners know how to repair them. :D
天荣26.02.2017
15:15:12
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Welcome to Poland: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a23139/commodore-64-repair-shop/ ?
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-ancient-commodore-pc-that-haunts-a-michigan-public-school-system/Michał26.02.2017
15:15:15
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https://goo.gl/Zx37ED is even better, though it was powered down in 2010
天荣26.02.2017
15:15:33
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> Why throw out what works.
> Somehow it still works, but the system desperately needs replacing.
Let's just run Windows XP on all worldwide ATMs and never update.
Oh wait... We currently do this. Oops.
Michał26.02.2017
15:16:49
15:16:49
Whoah, they upgraded from OS/2?
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Michał26.02.2017
15:17:09
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( /s )
Gwindor26.02.2017
16:05:49
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At least, my bank does.
And it doesn't support PayPal, what a shame.
Kohane26.02.2017
16:27:41
16:27:41
On previous workplace, my workpc had 400MHz Celeron-A
Yes, the first Netbooks with a processor similar to that.Gwindor26.02.2017
16:27:59
16:27:59
Celeron 900MHz
I have one. And use it very often.
Kohane26.02.2017
16:28:28
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No. XO from the OLPC project
GoogleGwindor26.02.2017
16:30:29
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OLPC never was a thing here.
Kohane26.02.2017
16:30:32
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Started by Negroponte years ago. I was living in one of those countries when it started. They came with Fedora and Sugar.
Of course. It was meant for poor countries, not for big powers like Russia.
Kohane26.02.2017
16:36:00
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I know
Gwindor26.02.2017
16:36:03
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That lappie looks like fun.
Michał26.02.2017
16:38:16
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was it true that they had some sort of mesh network integrated, so you got some sort of poor-man LAN even though you had no internet around?
I've heard about that when they were introduced and it sounds really great
Gwindor26.02.2017
16:38:34
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Hola, welcome aboard.
Kohane26.02.2017
16:40:16
16:40:16
was it true that they had some sort of mesh network integrated, so you got some sort of poor-man LAN even though you had no internet around?
Yes, it is. And you could use your Netbook as hot-spot as well.Tobias?26.02.2017
16:40:29
16:40:29
was it true that they had some sort of mesh network integrated, so you got some sort of poor-man LAN even though you had no internet around?
They do, but wirelessAll the X0 can connect locally and open a meshbased local network
With "Write" they can even type in the same Document at the same Time, something many Pcs cant to this very day
Or not without a Cloud Solution like Etherpad or GDocs
Michał26.02.2017
16:41:39
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something like etherpad? that's awesome
Kohane26.02.2017
16:41:58
16:41:58
With "Write" they can even type in the same Document at the same Time, something many Pcs cant to this very day
Thanks @Wolfshappen you explained it faster and better than me.Tobias?26.02.2017
16:42:04
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click trough
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