And Russia isn't the poorest place on Earth.

I highly doubt there are x86 32 bit only machines in Spain still being used to this day.

Neither is Siberia.

You'd be surprised. Not everyone is living in USA, EU and other rich countries yet still they are IT consuming people.

People that can soon have the 64 bit Processors we made in 2007

I highly doubt there are x86 32 bit only machines in Spain still being used to this day.

Spain is a rich country.

No.

The minority.

It's far from a rich country.

It's Northern Africa

No.

Yes and by any measures.

:P

We are probably the last country of the "first world countries"

But yes, 32bit is ripe for being killed

Or one of the last.

You know 8086 isa?

I highly doubt there are x86 32 bit only machines in Spain still being used to this day.

1. EU has special programmes to donate new computers to schools 2. Been in an school in a remore rural area lately? ;)

Anyway, I lost faith in Arch Linux, 'cause it doesn't work on half of my equipment now.

(I was in Spain only once, but still, I think it applies to many countries)

1. EU has special programmes to donate new computers to schools 2. Been in an school in a remore rural area lately? ;)

We don't even have computers in remote rural places here.

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If Arch drops 32 bit support that's the least of your concerns IMHO.

If Arch drops 32 bit support that's the least of your concerns IMHO.

It's not a big concern, there are other distros. Nonetheless, I can't use it for that thin client because of that :D

If you have a 32 bit only processor, that also means you're on REALLY OLD hardware. Like, REALLY, REALLY old. Incapable of doing any modern computer. I'm sure even light browsing on a modern browser like Chrome kills it quickly.

Well, it can play youtube videos.

(And we're talking x86 here, BTW, not ARM 32)

And it is capable of IRC, Telegram and email.

And it is capable of IRC, Telegram and email.

And it can stay on an old Linux Version until you upgrade

I use Opera 12 on it.

Ew

I mean...

And it can stay on an old Linux Version until you upgrade

What about security updates?

May as well just use Windows XP at that point.

What about security updates?

>Using Opera 12 >demanding Security Updated

XP-era hardware, XP-era experiences.

It doesn't get any better than that TBH

>Using Opera 12 >demanding Security Updated

Well, I use it with everything disabled.

no flash or java or stuff

Well, I use it with everything disabled.

THe Source leaked some time Ago

i am very sure Parser Exploits would be easy to make now

i am very sure Parser Exploits would be easy to make now

And they are widely spreaded on youtube?

I remember when one of the cool things about Linux was that it allowed modern experience on an old hardware, would be sad if it would change

And they are widely spreaded on youtube?

If you can youtube you can js.

You have 32 bit processor

If you can youtube you can js.

No

If you can js you have a Ton of Problems

I browse youtube, find link, paste it to VLC, watch the vid.

No

Do you "mpv copypasta" everytime?

I remember when one of the cool things about Linux was that it allowed modern experience on an old hardware, would be sad if it would change

Linux doesn't allow any "experience" on any "hardware", honestly.

It's just a kernel apps sit on top of.

I browse youtube, find link, paste it to VLC, watch the vid.

Why dont you use lynx at this point? XD

Why dont you use lynx at this point? XD

This ?

Why dont you use lynx at this point? XD

Many reasons, such as previews.

It's just a kernel apps sit on top of.

I was talking about Linux as the distros that base on it

I was talking about Linux as the distros that base on it

Again... Not really.

And still, 32bit is dying. The Amount of People using those Operating Systems is steadily decreasing, Support is dying and the worst Part - The people you want to cater to online, those that buy and use your stuff in richer countries, just have less and less 32 bit HW

The trend is to make heavy DEs with GPU acceleration and composition.

Again... Not really.

What do you mean?

So Websites, Services and Programs are made less and less for 32bit

There are still distros optimized for old hardware you can use but that's the minority.

The trend is to make heavy DEs with GPU acceleration and composition.

See: Plasma, GNOME, Unity, Deepin, Cinnamon, etc

There are still distros optimized for old hardware you can use but that's the minority.

I can agree that's how it should be - have distros which are not held back by old hardware, and having some just for the folks woth the older stuff

I can agree that's how it should be - have distros which are not held back by old hardware, and having some just for the folks woth the older stuff

I3wm for older Stuff

of course much simpler to make it work reasonably

one legacy LTS kernel

Whatever.

so you can stay on 3.2 and i3wm until your HW dies

I3wm for older Stuff

OpenBox is pretty cool, I also like PekWM but I guess development is dead

ERROR: S client not available

so you can stay on 3.2 and i3wm until your HW dies

kek

Even Lubuntu and Xubuntu enforced PAE two or three years ago

Thus you can not use it on a wide range of legacy systems, because the kernel just evolved so much to require it now

As they should.

It is still sad.

A Raspberry Pi is not expensive and I'm sure destroy any x86 32 bit computer in terms of raw processing power except maybe the top Xeon tiers of the 32 bit era. And even then I'm not sure.

It is still sad.

We call it "Progression and evolving"

We call it "Progression and evolving"

This.

A Raspberry Pi is not expensive and I'm sure destroy any x86 32 bit computer in terms of raw processing power except maybe the top Xeon tiers of the 32 bit era. And even then I'm not sure.

It is much less capable and more expensive than a laptop I use as terminal.

It is much less capable and more expensive than a laptop I use as terminal.

Less capable as in...?

32 bit in our Modern World is doomed to die, 4gb Ram are not going with the time.

Less capable as in...?

Everything.

Less computation power

Everything.

Any examples?

Less computation power

Uhm... No.

Uhm... No.

Yes.

I have both and can compare.

Shrug. Okay.

I think anyone here agrees that we can have modern distros with modern features and no legacy support and specialized distros for old hardware

No VGA out. Not a laptop (though, it is a form factor issue).

I have both and can compare.

EOMA86 will save us all

No VGA out. Not a laptop (though, it is a form factor issue).

VGA deserves to die, too.

But then you can have a CHIP

VGA deserves to die, too.

I have nothing with HDMI though.

But then you can have a CHIP

Expensive to get here.

I have nothing with HDMI though.

Again... Your personal experience is highly irrelevant.

My point of view is that pi got only arm cpu, not even atom. So, less computing power than i3, obvious it is. Plus

Cheap, one-slot housing for the poorer - and everybody can make very cheap and very very powerful EOMA86 cards

And even less computational power.

I have nothing with HDMI though.

http://www.dx.com/p/bstuo-1080p-hdmi-m-to-vga-f-video-converter-adapter-cable-white-442346 ;)

My point of view is that pi got only arm cpu, not even atom. So, less computing power than i3, obvious it is. Plus

"Arm" and "Atom" are different Things.

My point of view is that pi got only arm cpu, not even atom. So, less computing power than i3, obvious it is. Plus

Less than an i3, maybe. Nothing to do with the architecture, though.