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Tobias?
26.02.2017
13:59:24
ARM is a Architecture, i3 is a processor Fmaily

and ARM Processors that handily beat out the cheaper i3's exist

天荣
26.02.2017
13:59:46
Obviously some binaries are only available for x86, that's not ARM's fault, but the developer's

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Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:00:04
They are just not widely used yet because arm is most widespread where Performance per Watt counts - Phones.

Have a Look at Scaleway - They run MASSIVE arm server farms

And rent them for ridiculous Prices due to their low Power Usage while stil reasonably high Computation Power

Yan Naing
26.02.2017
14:01:13
Btw, any update on pidora? Ive been waiting it for pi3.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:01:24
Also, the Nintendo Switch is ARM-Powered

Michał
26.02.2017
14:01:33
They are just not widely used yet because arm is most widespread where Performance per Watt counts - Phones.
IMHO the main reason is that they are not backwards compatible with older x86-based closed source software. Noone will buy a new computer on which no of his old games and applications will work, though web apps are changing that slowly (see arm chromebooks)

天荣
26.02.2017
14:01:36
Michał
26.02.2017
14:01:53
Btw, any update on pidora? Ive been waiting it for pi3.
Isn't Pidora a non-supported Fedora fork based on Raspbian kernel?

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:01:53
Also, might sound weird, but I really need voice-fax-modem in my UMPC.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:01:56
Nvidia Tegra
Still Arm with a different GPU

Unless Tegra switched back to x64

Btw, any update on pidora? Ive been waiting it for pi3.
Why pidora? Fedora 25 is officially available now

Michał
26.02.2017
14:02:35
Btw, any update on pidora? Ive been waiting it for pi3.
I think the newest official news can be found on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

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Yan Naing
26.02.2017
14:02:37
Isn't Pidora a non-supported Fedora fork based on Raspbian kernel?
Just want to know if it is dead or shall I hope for any update. No offense.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:02:48
Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:03:01
Yan Naing
26.02.2017
14:03:17
Its dead, due to official Fedora.
Thanks for the info. Sad.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:03:45
No, good - no more Hacks and Workarounds

Just plain old Fedora running OOTB

天荣
26.02.2017
14:04:02
Still Arm with a different GPU
No no, I mean, I was just clarifying :P

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:04:26
But ARM nonetheless

My second Android was Tegra-Powered too XD

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:04:41
Anyway, whatever, I can't just not use 32bit hardware. And won't change it to anything in a pretty long time.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:05:10
Anyway, whatever, I can't just not use 32bit hardware. And won't change it to anything in a pretty long time.
Chromebooks should soon be available second and third hand for ridiculously cheap

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:05:22
Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:05:43
They are not a thing here. Completely.
Because we havent switched them out and shipped the old ones to you :P

天荣
26.02.2017
14:05:43
They are not a thing here. Completely.
32 bit stopped being a thing many years ago in the IT world...

セイバー
26.02.2017
14:05:59
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
There's way to modify it and make it work on Orange Pi? ?

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:06:10
Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:06:11
When intel and AMD both switched all their Stuff to 64

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天荣
26.02.2017
14:06:19
Not in real world though.
Spain is very much real.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:06:20
Not in real world though.
In Germany we have

天荣
26.02.2017
14:06:23
So is the USA.

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:06:28
Ideal IT worlds.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:06:29
32bit is nonexistant here

天荣
26.02.2017
14:06:29
So is China, etc.

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:06:40
Not wildlands.

Michał
26.02.2017
14:06:47
So is China, etc.
Are you sure about that?

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:06:58
There's way to modify it and make it work on Orange Pi? ?
The Script offers a modifier for Platofrm, one of them should be the orange pi me thinks

Yan Naing
26.02.2017
14:07:00
No more 32 bits here. Old ones exists.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:07:19
Ideal IT worlds.
The ones that pay Googles server Bills

Which is why less and less Browsers offer support for old Systems - and we expect them to drop 32 bit totally in favor of ARM soon

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:08:29
And at that Point either somebody makes another Memefox that then gets all the old Users still on it or everyone _has_ to switch

Michał
26.02.2017
14:08:58
That way on another, in countries less developed than USA or parts of EU you will still find 32-bit hardware being used for example in schools. It's the reality and you can't deny it; we all know 32bit x86 has no future but dropping it is just mean for these people

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:09:45
And its not a bad idea to just force a countrywide update Because Kids learning on XP dont really match up to the current World

Or, 200/me - i have seen 98 deployed too

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:10:53
They won't use anything better anyway.

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Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:11:32
Michał
26.02.2017
14:11:42
Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:11:44
Are they in the EU?
Poland is in EU, for example.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:11:46
Cause we have a Cost Balancing program for those

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:11:47
Romania is.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:11:57
Poland is in EU, for example.
Poland still doesnt accept the €

And in return doesnt get EU Favours

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:12:07
It is still in EU.

Well, double standarts then.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:12:26
Accept the Rules or get Favours cut

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Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:12:31
Whats so hard there?

Michał
26.02.2017
14:12:32
Poland still doesnt accept the €
We do get the EU money for schools, so old computers are less common there

but majority of the countries are not in the EU

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:12:47
Poland doesnt accept €, Poland doesnt get €-Help

simple

Michał
26.02.2017
14:13:28
Poland doesnt accept €, Poland doesnt get €-Help
we do, but in different currency. :)

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:13:33
Question was if they are in EU. They are.

Not if they are in Eurozone.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:14:05
Question was if they are in EU. They are.
Again, Eu happily helps with Education if you accept all the Standards and Rules

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Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:14:28
And Poland hasnt accpeted hald the Burdens of higher Standards, Requirements and all for the Eu yet.

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:14:32
If country doesn't fit EU standarts, why is it in EU then?

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:14:41
Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:15:36
Thats not how it works. You should do that before accepting country in the union. Otherwise, it is a double standart. But whatever. I can name Latvia among other countires that don't have modern hardware in schools. And Latvia uses Euro, doesn't it?

Michał
26.02.2017
14:16:20
To help them make fit
Are you aware that being in Eurozone has nothing to do with EU financial aid?

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:16:22
A ton of Schools have no Idea they can get Money from those Funds

And they dont get them unless they Request it.

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:16:37
Spread a word.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:16:53
Because the Country has to pay part of it still

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:17:22
Because the Country has to pay part of it still
In other words, they are not getting it.

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:17:23
Sure the Eu lifts _some_ pressure like pc budget but the Coutnry then has to spend a percentage of that in the same school too or smth

Gwindor
26.02.2017
14:17:38
They are in EU, use Euro and still are not getting it.

Thats real world.

Michał
26.02.2017
14:17:50
IMHO the main problem here is that majority of countries are not in EU and never will be, and some of them will have trouble using any computers more modern than anything we would throw away with the garbace

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:17:56
In other words, they are not getting it.
If the EU pays you 10000€ for a fully new top of the Line Pc Room you have to pay what, 1000€ into the same school?

( i dont know the exact Amounts)

Which is a lot for Lithuania still

Tobias?
26.02.2017
14:18:31
So only larger Schools or those in larger Towns get it

And rural schools stay in 1800

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