How ? Only xorg ?

yes, with usage of OpenBox

yes, with usage of OpenBox

Ok.

Another thing people don't like Ubuntu... "Hey that's a nice software... What only .Deb's are available? Screw that and I hate Ubuntu" ? (atleast my feeling)

It's not Ubuntu fault. It would make more sense to say: "Screw that and I hate this dumb company offering only debs"

How ? Only xorg ?

I used gui only for internet browsing and reading books in pdf. And in terminal (tty) I used Emacs as Python and C/C++ IDE.

I used gui only for internet browsing and reading books in pdf. And in terminal (tty) I used Emacs as Python and C/C++ IDE.

Ok that is good

Debian is lighter than Fedora, on XFCE for some reason, so when I want lightweight stuff, I use XFCE+ debian. Fedora XFCE for me has no use case...

Debian ? No thanks. You use gnome or kde ?

Debian ? No thanks. You use gnome or kde ?

Why? What's wrong with Debian?

Why? What's wrong with Debian?

Outdated packages hard repo management

Debian ? No thanks. You use gnome or kde ?

Sure, gnome on debian.

Outdated packages hard repo management

You said apt was better on Ubuntu, what's different?

You said apt was better on Ubuntu, what's different?

Didnt say better on Ubuntu. No need to change repo to get lastest software version

Didnt say better on Ubuntu. No need to change repo to get lastest software version

Ubuntu LTS doesn't have the latest stuff either

Sure, gnome on debian.

I cant use gnome because i dont understand the way to use it. For example dash to dock. It's a good idea but i cant right click on dash and move it where i want ? Panels are better to handle

I cant use gnome because i dont understand the way to use it. For example dash to dock. It's a good idea but i cant right click on dash and move it where i want ? Panels are better to handle

Unity was the same.

Unity was the same.

Yes this why i never use it

Outdated packages hard repo management

Try Testing. It's almost the same as Fedora. Repositories are the pretty much the same, add, delete, enable and disable

Try Testing. It's almost the same as Fedora. Repositories are the pretty much the same, add, delete, enable and disable

Yes but it's called "testing"

CINNAMON RULEZ

CINNAMON RULEZ

Hum. Cinnamon good alternative. Mate is good too. Thanks to Linux mint

So fedora is better with gnome ?

So fedora is better with gnome ?

Not necessarily

Not necessarily

what is your DE ?

XFCE ftw

XFCE ftw

With fedora ?

This is just lol : "http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/microsoft-chatbot-zo-prefers-linux" ??????

With fedora ?

Yes

Yes

Did you try others ?

Sometimes I wonder if this the question Oracle asks themselves about a new open source project they've purchased the rights to before taking a weed whacker to the community. https://twitter.com/Oracle/status/885906740184662016

If I'm not mistaken, ubuntu is the most used distro in the world. That's why on steam they suggest ubuntu versions, a lot of sites propose .deb packages and so on

That's not WHY steam suggests to use ubuntu. It's because they built their platform of steam OS very close to Ubuntu so they can back up more directly that it runs on ubuntu. It can run on any OS that has the dependencies obviously, but they're tested on ubuntu by valve.

Sometimes I wonder if this the question Oracle asks themselves about a new open source project they've purchased the rights to before taking a weed whacker to the community. https://twitter.com/Oracle/status/885906740184662016

I don't know how to feel about this tbh

Why they use ubuntu/debian as a base (if i am correct)?

Yes they use some weird mix

I don't know how to feel about this tbh

Hahah, in what way?

Due to some disagreements with both Distros

/me is not really a fan of Oracle and their legacy of what they do to open source projects

I feel like Oracle is where open source projects go to die

Okay we're on the same page then

At least btrfs is still going strong

Hahah, tried to find a GIF of the boneyard from The Lion King but no luck

At least btrfs is still going strong

Heh, at least

Okay we're on the same page then

Yeah, I meant it as a weed whacker to literally destroy whatever community was there to begin with. ?

Can i ask what /me is used for? I see it sometimes but i don't understand what it does?

Can i ask what /me is used for? I see it sometimes but i don't understand what it does?

Heh, it doesn't really work in Telegram, but usually using the command will do something in many chat clients called an "emote". For example, in IRC, if I'm typing a message, it will look like this: <jwf> Hello! If I type a message using /me, it will look like this: jwf is ready for breakfast! So sort of like talking in third person.

In Telegram, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense since nothing special happens, but old habits die hard. :P

Oh, thanks

Yup! No problem.

Speaking of, it is time for breakfast. Be back later…

do dnf clean packages

i already tried that

Hi, can I save on a text file the commands that are already saved in the terminal memory (up arrow)?

I don't understand what you mean by "in the terminal memory", but if you want to put the output of a command in a text file, you do echo $(command) > file.txt

/names@TeledoraBot

perhaps there's a way to make fedora only update packages that have no conflicts?

I don't understand what you mean by "in the terminal memory", but if you want to put the output of a command in a text file, you do echo $(command) > file.txt

By the terminal memory I mean ALL the commands that muito terminal shows when I press the up arrow

*my

oh the history ?

Yesss

it is in the .bash_history file

already saved :D

(if you use bash, for zsh it is the .zsh_history file)

(if you use bash, for zsh it is the .zsh_history file)

Where do I find this file in Fedora 26?

Would be great to save that

I use the default terminal

ERROR: S client not available

in fish there's a history command for that

if using the file manager, the files with a dot at the beginning of the names are hidden

default terminal would be bash

using the shell, you could just do cp .bash_history history.txt

using the shell, you could just do cp .bash_history history.txt

No path?

it is in your home directory

by default, if you open up a new terminal, that's where it is located

Ctrl+h in file manager to see hidden files

you could always add the path, so cp ~/.bash_history ~/history.txt

Ctrl+h in file manager to see hidden files

does it work in all files managers ?

does it work in all files managers ?

I don't know, but he can give it a try

Thanks :))

I don't know, but he can give it a try

yes, or using the menu

you're welcome :)

In Telegram, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense since nothing special happens, but old habits die hard. :P

Hah yeah and I do it in telegram for humor purposes

/names@TeledoraBot

what's this?

what's this?

No idea... That was a telegram command for this group. I thought this will msg me in private like in IRC..

Type / you'll get recommendations

Once you go low level enough the documentation for other distros are relevant anyway (kernel options etc). I quite like using Arch Linux's wiki when researching hardware compatibility

Once you go low level enough the documentation for other distros are relevant anyway (kernel options etc). I quite like using Arch Linux's wiki when researching hardware compatibility

Does arch use unmodified upstream kernels? Also, wb Manjaro?

No, vanilla kernel only. But their wiki is very good for a beginner

how do you guys backup your installation ?

how do you guys backup your installation ?

This is the question I'm actually tackling today! Have you seen the excellent backup series on the Fedora Magazine the past couple of weeks?

https://fedoramagazine.org/taking-smart-backups-duplicity/

The series starts here

https://fedoramagazine.org/taking-smart-backups-duplicity/

Fantastic!!!!

Insider tip, there's a new one coming tomorrow morning on using Déjà Dup

Even I learned something from that one and it makes backups much easier, you don't have to use a command line

Yes but does it work for the entire operating system ?

But the two articles that are published now cover the command line ways of doing it.

Yes but does it work for the entire operating system ?

It's all a matter of what you tell it to include or not. You certainly could.