I need it for university.

We have a german one at our customer, coding something that interacts with its data right now XD

The software is over 12 years old tough

and uses *shudder* mssql

and FUCK mssql

I work with MS SQL as well. And as well it is for university

I work with MS SQL as well. And as well it is for university

If it was documented anywhere...

but nope, no documentation, wizardry, mixed-language tables...

even table names switch german and english and case

Well, we found some views functions atleast and we have optimized it a bit ^^

Key fragmentation was: 99% now: 1%

Nobody ever ran a clean or updated/rebuilt indizes on this thing

Nice!

Me everyday

@Kohane new pack :3

Well.

Now, that is me every day.

Onwards to next shitty day!

Now, that is me every day.

Literally .

Literally .

The C̶o̶d̶i̶n̶g̶Tank

is it bad to install apt on fedora to run deb packages ?

It's really rare that Debian programmes aren't available in Fedora.

Windows way, dependency hell and so on.

It's also like reinventing the wheel. There are already repositories to install stuff.

It's really rare that Debian programmes aren't available in Fedora.

yeah it is , actually the companies doesn't give attention to rpm packages :\ , i don't know why but there is much companies support ubuntu at most and deb packages , but rpm u have to get it by urself or to be available on the rpm fusion :\ !!

yeah it is , actually the companies doesn't give attention to rpm packages :\ , i don't know why but there is much companies support ubuntu at most and deb packages , but rpm u have to get it by urself or to be available on the rpm fusion :\ !!

Then don't use such software. Use only OSS.

ubuntu is shit but all the companies and the products support it :\ why that !

Then don't use such software. Use only OSS.

even open source programes ?

even open source programes ?

Most of OSS already available in Fedora repos.

yeah it is , actually the companies doesn't give attention to rpm packages :\ , i don't know why but there is much companies support ubuntu at most and deb packages , but rpm u have to get it by urself or to be available on the rpm fusion :\ !!

That's because of Ubuntu. But I don't find it that often programmes that aren't available in Fedora repos (including RPMFusion and COPR).

Most of OSS already available in Fedora repos.

yeah there are much

yeah there are much

Popular OSS?

ubuntu is shit but all the companies and the products support it :\ why that !

it was the most widepsread system and still is that you can get cheap desktop paid support for

mint and ubuntu still rank top at distrowatch

ubuntu is shit but all the companies and the products support it :\ why that !

This is because for a number of reasons, Ubuntu became the standard. For people outside the OSS community Ubuntu means Linux.

so making sure your packages work with ubuntu will ensure most of the OSS world will be able to enjoy your stuff. Unlike Fedora where people will be mad at any propreitary blob - rightfully

mint and ubuntu still rank top at distrowatch

Distrowatch only show visits of their own pages, not real info.

Distrowatch only show visits of their own pages, not real info.

Yes, but even with this tiny sample it ranks quite high. And keep in mind, ubuntu is still widely used in schools as teaching software (or versions of it)

:\ f them man they want to kill the OSS comunity or what they are gonna do with this movments !

Fedora not coming with rpmfusion or a question at the start to enable it with a short info page what it is kind of makes many people turn away

Yes, but even with this tiny sample it ranks quite high. And keep in mind, ubuntu is still widely used in schools as teaching software (or versions of it)

This is totally true. The OLPC project in Uruguay uses Ubuntu in their last machines, and I think in Brazil schools is also the system in use.

that's really bad , cuz most of the oss programmes is support the ubuntu system at first priority ! , they have to stop that !

that's really bad , cuz most of the oss programmes is support the ubuntu system at first priority ! , they have to stop that !

No. You are wrong.

No. You are wrong.

why ?

why ?

Because big OSS projects don't prefer any distribution.

Each distribution have it's own maintainers for every OSS package.

And this maintainers build packages for their own distribution. Not OSS project authors!

And this maintainers build packages for their own distribution. Not OSS project authors!

:\ the ubuntu maintainers ..

that's really bad , cuz most of the oss programmes is support the ubuntu system at first priority ! , they have to stop that !

I don't think it's bad. As long as they're open source they will reach the rest of distros sooner or later.

ubuntu is shit but all the companies and the products support it :\ why that !

Because Ubuntu has a more tolerant policy about non-free software: 'restrict' repo is built-in while rpmfusion is not.

Yeah, but that's a legal issue. Fedora as it's supported by Red Hat is US based. Therefore, it has to follow US restrictions. Ubuntu is South Africa based, therefore it has to follow South African laws.

I don't think it's bad. As long as they're open source they will reach the rest of distros sooner or later.

i am not always using the open source apps and there are no way to make the closed source to rpm , just alien and to download apt and the two way are bad

You can use any Fedora remixes with built-in RPMFusion repos.

Ubuntu is based in Britain

Official Fedora repositories and ISO images cannot contain proprietary or patented software.

That's great about fedora

You can use any Fedora remixes with built-in RPMFusion repos.

Korora seems "normal-user" friendly

hello World

ubuntu is shit but all the companies and the products support it :\ why that !

- latest packages - huge helpful community - Google modified it, and they are using it just fine - it's not as popular as centos tho.

hello World

Do we sound like compiler ? JK - hello

- latest packages - huge helpful community - Google modified it, and they are using it just fine - it's not as popular as centos tho.

Quora are using it as well (according to Adam angelo's answer)

hehe .. Hi there @GhAliesh

What is the most liGhtweight Fedora SPIN ??

i have a dual core laptop from 2007 ..

ERROR: S client not available

Lxde

pretty slow on fedora 25

Lxde ??

Ram?

3GB

What is the most liGhtweight Fedora SPIN ??

i3wm.

DDR2 maYbe

i3wm is hard for me

There's no i3 spin

The lightest one is definitely lxde

i3wm is hard for me

Other spins are hard for ur ram

There's no i3 spin

Yes

You mean there is?

- latest packages - huge helpful community - Google modified it, and they are using it just fine - it's not as popular as centos tho.

NO IMPORTANT ABOUT PRIVACY , MUCH CRASHES , UNKNOWN ERRORS.. "UNSTABLE" : )

Sorry, I didn't know

Is it new?

But u can install it

But u can install it

? yeah i can install windows too

? yeah i can install windows too

The guy wanna save ram not waste it ?

I don't see it in the list

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

What is the most liGhtweight Fedora SPIN ??

Fedora Everything.

Can install bare minimal system.

NO IMPORTANT ABOUT PRIVACY , MUCH CRASHES , UNKNOWN ERRORS.. "UNSTABLE" : )

I don't like it either, but let's face it it's wildly used.

i LxQt or LxDe ??

i LxQt or LxDe ??

Lxde qas replcaed with lxqt, wasn't it?

I'd go for LXQT.

Ok .. I am downloadinG LXQT

I don't like it either, but let's face it it's wildly used.

u can't rebuild it from the source it's at most like the closed sources :\ .. u could use mint .. ubuntu is just a shit .. it's like XP with the blue screen ? !!

Lxqt is too green

Lxde in more mature

Lxde will not be EOL any time soon