This leads me to the next question: Why Linux users are Mac haters so often?

Because they really believe: that everything in MacOS is new, they are the first in try everything, everything in MacOS is so original. They really believe they are better just because they buy overpriced, super-expensive HW

https://getfedora.org yesss

YEAH!!!

But it still says "Fedora 26 Beta availabla" ?

The Fedora Server Images get changed each release Workstation still has fellow JVM engineer

Because they really believe: that everything in MacOS is new, they are the first in try everything, everything in MacOS is so original. They really believe they are better just because they buy overpriced, super-expensive HW

So... according to you Apple users are calling to be hated?

Graphics Team, do something! XD

Well, I can write that fedora is always beta, but no one like that jokes ?

Yes that what I hate about KDE "too much of everything", it even come with torrent downloder installed and huge bunch of things u might not need it.

KDE neon has nothing though, not even the KDE partition manager tool

This leads me to the next question: Why Linux users are Mac haters so often?

Because some MAC users themselves, some think that they are the elite just because they bought expensive stuff as Eduard said (the same for IPhone users)

So... according to you Apple users are calling to be hated?

For sure

Also Linux users and windows users

As well as android users

It just depends on what part of the world are you stranded up

As well as android users

Android Vs IOS is the same Linux Vs OS X

The solution is use all of it.

Quotting Papa Roach: It's our nature to destroy each other

It just depends on what part of the world are you stranded up

I had iPhone 6 for a while, nothing special tbh, just I looked rich LOL

The solution is use all of it.

The solution is: use what you want and stop criticizing everything that you don't use

The solution is: use what you want and stop criticizing everything that you don't use

But that's an ideal, dreamed and surreal world

The solution is: use what you want and stop criticizing everything that you don't use

That`s a differense. You can criticizing some soft, but not people. If soft realy have some problems.

I had iPhone 6 for a while, nothing special tbh, just I looked rich LOL

Well, I suppose that own one doesn't make you a fan.

That`s a differense. You can criticizing some soft, but not people. If soft realy have some problems.

For you

I mean, being spied it's a problem, if you care about privacy, but if don't, it isn't a problem

I mean, being spied it's a problem, if you care about privacy, but if don't, it isn't a problem

You're spied on no matter which phone you have, though

I had iPhone 6 for a while, nothing special tbh, just I looked rich LOL

iPads are better investments than iPhones, for iOS, iMHO

You're spied on no matter which phone you have, though

Or OS

You're spied on no matter which phone you have, though

Replicant.

You can call any systemD hater and listen how RH introduce NSA code into systemD

You can call any systemD hater and listen how RH introduce NSA code into systemD

Just because the nsa has written it doesnt make it a backdoor.

They want secure systems too

Just because the nsa has written it doesnt make it a backdoor.

I know

They want secure systems too

Probably more than anybody else

Replicant.

Tip: your operator always knows where you are, more or less.

Tip: your operator always knows where you are, more or less.

tip: rip out the sim when travelling

also with replicant your sim is useless anyway

no free drivers

"in plane" will help you)

tip: rip out the sim when travelling

Phones without discards are known for being very useful ?

Simcards°

tip: rip out the sim when travelling

Tip: it's not that easy and no necessarily all the company can read LAC/RACs

Or even map LAC/RACs to real locations

Phones without discards are known for being very useful ?

2FA, small device for travelling on free hotspots, music player

Tobias? and Michał why do you use computers?

Tobias? and Michał why do you use computers?

To get shit done

Tobias? and Michał why do you use computers?

For work, also knowing about dangers does not equal caring

The solution is: use what you want and stop criticizing everything that you don't use

Exactly!

For work, also knowing about dangers does not equal caring

Well, that's true

Convenience of using a phone outweighs the risks for me

Knowing and caring are different things

and then again - if the nsa/german state surveillance want my position - if i'm in germany they will.

iPads are better investments than iPhones, for iOS, iMHO

Really? Why?

but i can use the knowledge that they do to avoid it as much as possible and do stuff like vpn to make me as opaque as possible

and then again - if the nsa/german state surveillance want my position - if i'm in germany they will.

And if you're in UK they'll know position, browsing history, and what you have been eating since you arrived. LEL

And if you're in UK they'll know position, browsing history, and what you have been eating since you arrived. LEL

Yes, VPN, We should tweet that anyway! :^)

XD

Yes, VPN, We should tweet that anyway! :^)

LOL yes

I know that by using a debit card authorities can get to know a lot about me, but it's so much more convenient than using cash that I don't care

I know that by using a debit card authorities can get to know a lot about me, but it's so much more convenient than using cash that I don't care

I dont

bimonthly withdrawal

then i pay everything with that

I know that by using a debit card authorities can get to know a lot about me, but it's so much more convenient than using cash that I don't care

Usually I use the debit card to take money from my account. Not to buy stuff. Although sometimes I do when I forget to go to the bank ?

If authorities would come and start hitting me with a hammer I would tell them even more, so I guess I can stop caring and use some of the luxuries technology has to offer ?

Happy fedora 26 release day

ERROR: S client not available

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iPads are better investments than iPhones, for iOS, iMHO

All of them are overpriced, I would save my money for Apple TV which will soon has built-in game console in it, there is much buzz about it in apple communities.

Other apple's product have cheaper yet more decent alternatives

Thing is Apple/Microsoft are just good at marketing, nothing more nothing less

As I know, many components of Os X is open source, aren`t they?

As I know, many components of Os X is open source, aren`t they?

Except the central ones required to make an wine-likelayer for it.

Oh and all the things ontop of it

Can anyoone explain to me what is Fedora Workstation ostree?

Can anyoone explain to me what is Fedora Workstation ostree?

"libOSTree is a library and suite of command line tools that combines a "git-like" model for committing and downloading bootable filesystem trees, along with a layer for deploying them and managing the bootloader configuration."

Aka - getting your os from a central deployment server.

that you or your admin need to setup

Not the ostree, but about the iso edition.

Not the ostree, but about the iso edition.

it contains a premade ostree install

just plop your config in and boot - done

it contains a premade ostree install

How about package manager? It still uses DNF?

How about package manager? It still uses DNF?

i think you can but if configured it should do whatever ostree does

with its atomic upgrades and rollback and stuff

Tl;dr: Dont use ostree for your installation

its there to make quick ostree deployment easy for admins

And not for endusers

And not for endusers

Hmm, maybe, that's why i can't find it at https://getfedora.org/workstation/download. Thanks for the info, @Wolfshappen.

https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-26-is-here/

[PROPAGANDA]

https://fosspedro.wordpress.com/2017/06/16/how-to-updgrade-your-fedora-version/

https://fedoramagazine.org/upgrading-fedora-25-fedora-26/

;)

upgrading now

https://fosspedro.wordpress.com/2017/06/25/fedora-26-a-simple-post-install-guide/

Really? Why?

Very simply, you can get more stuff done.

It's the typical phone V tablet conundrum

Boot from live media and try to fix the GRUB using the rescue mode. The simple cleaner option is doing a fresh install.

Yes it worked. Thanks @kohane