Has anyone notice the bad font rendering in chrome (fedora 24)?

BTW if you wanna try the latest LibreOffice (5.2 Beta), you can now install it via Flatpak (runs in sandbox, doesn't override your current LO): https://whatofhow.wordpress.com/2016/06/01/libreoffice-5-2-beta-flatpak/

And it's distro independent, so you can install it even if you're not running Fedora as long as your distribution has flatpak. I think it's openSUSE, Arch, Debian, Ubuntu (PPA) now.

Hopefully in the next version it will be integrated in GNOME Software, so you'll just double click the installation file and it installs.

What? Where is bug report about it? I can't try to reproduce it right now.

I don't know.

Drive menu extension. Shipped with default installation. Also, udisksctl.

And as you can see, one imply to enable an extension to do something that in previous version was a function on the message/notification tray. The other is not intuitive user friendly at all, let's say: To safely remove your usb/external hdd you will have to open a terminal, figure out what is the device assigned to the usb/hdd, then unmount it, and finally poweroff it to not corrupt your data, all this is 'safely remove equivalent', Welcome to GNOME newbie user.

To safely remove your usb/external hdd i have download an extension gnome. It works good

To safely remove your usb/external hdd i have download an extension gnome. It works good

That's not the point. In the past it was 'built in', batteries included. KDE has it, Mate has it, Cinnamon has it, LXDE has it, XFCE has it, even Windows 7, W8, W8.1 and W10 has it. Guess who doesn't has it and used to has it?

?

Well, I use a surround screen configuration, by default I'm unable to span my wallpapers thru them. I'm unable to change the shell theme, I can't change the default sounds, I can't configure a program to autostart using a simple way, I can't change the gdm greeter background, I can't see the progress of my file transfers .. And so on... Those are little things that should be accessible by default. Don't you think?

I agree with you.

Felipe welcome!

To safely remove your usb/external hdd i have download an extension gnome. It works good

Why is it an extension instead of default behaviour?

is it possible to remove nautilus without braking GNOME? I have found Caja (file manager from Mate Desktop) more useful than Nautilus, Who remember that useful function that allowed the user to split the same window into to two pane? On nautilus it used to work by pressing F3, but someone got the brilliant idea to remove it.

You can set Caja as default file browser and with a line to prevent it from taking over your desktop.

i for remove my usb external hdd on Gnome i installed un extension. https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/7/removable-drive-menu/

I have that by default on my desktops.

Cinnamon & Plasma 5

i don't have it in gnome :(

If they dislike GNOME, they can pick other distribution, which has focus on the other DE. And this distribution has many chances to have this DE in perfect state, like GNOME in Fedora Workstation. Integrated and seamless.

Why they should pick less than perfect? To me, Fedora is perfection. But Gnome it isn't. That simple.

@Kohane you which DE on Fedora prefer?

Cinnamon

And Plasma 5 to play sometimes.

Plasma is KDE right?

Yup

Works better than the previous KDE 4. Less RAM hungry.

For to try Cinnamon i have to download th version spin Cinnamon, or i install by the version workstation e after i delete gnome? Thank you

For to try Cinnamon i have to download th version spin Cinnamon, or i install by the version workstation e after i delete gnome? Thank you

You can just install it along side

You can just install it along side

I prefer a clean installation. Install Cinnamon along side maybe don't is the same thing than clean installation, at least i believe

I prefer a clean installation. Install Cinnamon along side maybe don't is the same thing than clean installation, at least i believe

This is true, but much better to try it

Are you going to download now ??

Are you going to download now ??

Yes, the spin version. Why?

Yes, the spin version. Why?

Hold. Fedora also releases monthly releases

Packed with all the updates till then

saves you a lot of bandwidth

I will give you the torrent and also seed it

I prefer a clean installation. Install Cinnamon along side maybe don't is the same thing than clean installation, at least i believe

You are right.

I will give you the torrent and also seed it

https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/

There you go

This iso was built 15 days back

Ok thanks

https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/

I am seeding the Fedora Cinnamon torrent here

Just a minute and i'm starting to download

Just a minute and i'm starting to download

I will also start seeding again by then

powering on my machine

I am seeding the Fedora Cinnamon torrent here

?The trackers seem dead ?

Updating my Linode to Fedora 23 now :)

Hex sticker is the new sexy! https://twitter.com/Remy_D/status/737121531575181313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

sudo dnf system-upgrade download —refresh —releasever=23

whoops wrong window

?The trackers seem dead ?

All dead :)

What is problem?

Only gtk applications

Qt applications are ok

All dead :)

You can still download the ISo

Tomorrow morning. At moment i don't are at home. :( thank you

I prefer a clean installation. Install Cinnamon along side maybe don't is the same thing than clean installation, at least i believe

They don't interfere each other, AFAIK. I have KDE and Cinnamon installed alongside without problems.

Hex sticker is the new sexy! https://twitter.com/Remy_D/status/737121531575181313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Lovely!

Paolo Where are you from? Italy?

Yes. I'm Italian

bellissimo

I don't know.

No. It does not work. I just wanted to reproduce what you said, but no. Because Nautilus works as a GApplicationService. And then last window is closed, this does not close the Nautilus process.

And as you can see, one imply to enable an extension to do something that in previous version was a function on the message/notification tray. The other is not intuitive user friendly at all, let's say: To safely remove your usb/external hdd you will have to open a terminal, figure out what is the device assigned to the usb/hdd, then unmount it, and finally poweroff it to not corrupt your data, all this is 'safely remove equivalent', Welcome to GNOME newbie user.

>And as you can see, one imply to enable an extension to do something that in previous version was a function on the message/notification tray. They redesigned message/notification tray, and this got lost, yes. Because this notification tray was not best and intuitive enough. I don't know why drives was not ported to the new one. Maybe they just forgot about it. Or have their own design reasons or plans... But, does *ANYBODY* tried to return drives back in notification tray? Start a discussion somethere where GNOME Devs hanging around, like bugzilla.gnome.org, and just talk to them? Did they got official answer, like: "No, gays. We are just a bunch of motherlickers, which break everyone interfaces and habits! We don't give a shit about your XFCE's and MATE's. And we will not return drives back to notifications area, because f@*k you."? I think - NO.

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But you will prefer to just cry around here, about why GNOME is so bad. Because they breaked another your habit.

Recently somebody mentioned on a local event: If you copy file from your computer to an usb key, and close the current window, the copying process is interrupted just because the copying process NOW is a sub-process from the current window. WTF! This is the so called «GNOME Human Interface Guidelines»? Even amateur, hobbyist, non-remunerate devs do better than some GNOME Devs.

Who is "somebody"?

And as you can see, one imply to enable an extension to do something that in previous version was a function on the message/notification tray. The other is not intuitive user friendly at all, let's say: To safely remove your usb/external hdd you will have to open a terminal, figure out what is the device assigned to the usb/hdd, then unmount it, and finally poweroff it to not corrupt your data, all this is 'safely remove equivalent', Welcome to GNOME newbie user.

>To safely remove your usb/external hdd you will have to open a terminal, figure out what is the device assigned to the usb/hdd, then unmount it, and finally poweroff it to not corrupt your data, all this is 'safely remove equivalent', Welcome to GNOME newbie user. Alt+F2, udisksctl unmount -b /dev/disk/by-label/%{LABEL}. And I did'nt said, this is the only and the one way. Just one of options, if everything get dirty. Newbie can enable extension from GNOME Software (coming soon), or use Nautilus.

To safely remove your usb/external hdd i have download an extension gnome. It works good

>download an extension gnome. >download This is a builtin extension, in standard setup. You just need to enable it, using Tweak Tool in the default installation, if you REALLY want it back in the panel. Just enable it, Karl! How bad, GNOME!

That's not the point. In the past it was 'built in', batteries included. KDE has it, Mate has it, Cinnamon has it, LXDE has it, XFCE has it, even Windows 7, W8, W8.1 and W10 has it. Guess who doesn't has it and used to has it?

And they breaked your habbit, removed it from notification area. How bad, GNOME, how bad! But you just have a duck sindrome.

And what wrong with extension? It not bad at all.

You also can unmount drive from nautilus..

It give you lot of choice

You also can unmount drive from nautilus..

Didn't you read the thread? They removed drive menu from notification area by default. But he does not want to open Nautilus to umount the drive. Either to enable just an extension.

He has just got a completely duck sindrome.

What is problem?

It happen if you dont use unicode. You need to modified it base on you locale. To keep it simple, use standard english

He has just got a completely duck sindrome.

I've seen it many times before.

Why is it an extension instead of default behaviour?

Because drive menu does not need to be in NOTIFICATION area, I suppose.

>And as you can see, one imply to enable an extension to do something that in previous version was a function on the message/notification tray. They redesigned message/notification tray, and this got lost, yes. Because this notification tray was not best and intuitive enough. I don't know why drives was not ported to the new one. Maybe they just forgot about it. Or have their own design reasons or plans... But, does *ANYBODY* tried to return drives back in notification tray? Start a discussion somethere where GNOME Devs hanging around, like bugzilla.gnome.org, and just talk to them? Did they got official answer, like: "No, gays. We are just a bunch of motherlickers, which break everyone interfaces and habits! We don't give a shit about your XFCE's and MATE's. And we will not return drives back to notifications area, because f@*k you."? I think - NO.

They ignore bugzilla reports.

You can set Caja as default file browser and with a line to prevent it from taking over your desktop.

But... Nemo... It's better!

Yeah.i read the thread. That why i saying.. In linux you have choices..

They ignore bugzilla reports.

Links?

And they breaked your habbit, removed it from notification area. How bad, GNOME, how bad! But you just have a duck sindrome.

No, they break stuff that already works with no reason.

No, they break stuff that already works with no reason.

They have a reason. Just you don't understand it.

If they did'nt broke everything, we still have got another Windows.

Windows 98...

But on Linux kernel.

Don't be so luddite. If technology did'nt breaked everything we had, we would be still lived in caverns.

Agreed!

And still, I just don't understand, why Shell or WM should do umounting jobs by default? Does not it seems illogical? Like Nautilus should have functionality to enter IRC chats or Document Viewer should show current time?

Links?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=894431

Another report on the same topic: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1045739

i install RHEL 7.2.. 4gb iso

in virtual machine (virtualbox)

but the RHEL no have GUI and no have REPOSITORIES