With whose permission ??

Pocket

I also prefer Firefox, sadly Google now supports Linux with Chrome/Chromium better than Mozilla.

what's "pocket"?

Pocket

Ha ha . . .

Which itself is against the freedom of the user which is what Mozilla was built upon

How does it go against user's freedom?

How does it go against user's freedom?

A non free service bundled with a free software which I can't even remove . .

Well, there are many examples of that. Someone mentioned support for GDrive in Nautilus. That's also free software bundling non free service.

Many music players have support for last.fm, and the features is not always a plugin you can uninstall.

The situation with Last.fm and Libre.fm is especially interesting. I'm deeply embedded in both those services…

Well, there are many examples of that. Someone mentioned support for GDrive in Nautilus. That's also free software bundling non free service.

Exactly . . but then I suppose I have a way to remove it . . I never have used the gnome version. . . but which is not the case with Firefox and pocket

Many music players have support for last.fm, and the features is not always a plugin you can uninstall.

I don't use those music players either . . I use vlc . . I know that is non free software

But I am installing it . . it goes with my concent

The situation with Last.fm and Libre.fm is especially interesting. I'm deeply embedded in both those services…

Libre.FM is really awesome ?? I don't the flash stuff for listening music now

You cannot remove GDrive support from Nautilus either AFAIK. You just don't have to use it and it's not visible, just like you can remove Pocket icon from the bar and forget about it. I mean... I'm not a proponent of closed services, but bundling their support in free software is common which is why I think the Pocket case is a bit of a storm in a glass of water.

Libre.FM is really awesome ?? I don't the flash stuff for listening music now

Libre.fm is really awesome. The developers are very responsive. I also found a great tool for moving from Last.fm to Libre.fm too. I've been backing up my Scrobbles ever since some of the weird development trends started happening with Last.fm… I'm nervous all of my listening data might disappear someday. https://github.com/kabniel/last2libre

You cannot remove GDrive support from Nautilus either AFAIK. You just don't have to use it and it's not visible, just like you can remove Pocket icon from the bar and forget about it. I mean... I'm not a proponent of closed services, but bundling their support in free software is common which is why I think the Pocket case is a bit of a storm in a glass of water.

If this is the case I am going to have the same take on Nautilus too as Firefox . .

I am just not going to consider it right . .

You cannot remove GDrive support from Nautilus either AFAIK. You just don't have to use it and it's not visible, just like you can remove Pocket icon from the bar and forget about it. I mean... I'm not a proponent of closed services, but bundling their support in free software is common which is why I think the Pocket case is a bit of a storm in a glass of water.

Freedom of a user is not just about hiding an icon from a tab . . to me it is way more than that

Hi all! I posted this about the upcoming version, hope you like it... https://crossingtheair.wordpress.com/2016/05/26/looking-forward-to-fedora-24/

It depends on the use case and we cannot be generic about it

Exactly! I understand VM is a heavy thing. But many people don't use it. It's all about your needs and preferences. :-)

Which is you prefer browse internet between Firefox and Chrome?

Firefox. But I use Opera most of time.

I still find it hard to get over Firefox's Pocket and Hello, not to mention the EME thing

What is the EME thing...?

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Media/EME

basically built in DRM library

Ah

I don't watch videos online

But with EME is possible to watch skygo on Fedora?

Skygo...?

Satellitar television

Like Sky to watch football matches? Is it that?

Yes perfectly

It works only windows with silverlight

Ah! Then I know it. In my football pages there are always links to it prior WHU matches ?

I never noticed. I don't watch it.

What is your football pages? ?

I have another question. Do you use gnome or gnome-wayland?

try vivaldi.. somehow, it faster and sleek

I try vivaldi İt is bad I like firefox

Firefox is the best

i like vivaldi

What is your football pages? ?

"I'm forever blowing bubbles" is my favourite. And about Gnome and Wayland... I don't use them. My desktop is Cinnamon and sometimes I switch to Plasma 5 just to see how is it going. Hope this answer your questions. ?

"I'm forever blowing bubbles" is my favourite. And about Gnome and Wayland... I don't use them. My desktop is Cinnamon and sometimes I switch to Plasma 5 just to see how is it going. Hope this answer your questions. ?

Thank you so much

You're welcome!

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Jflory7 ping

#tips : If you need something such SimpleScreenRecorder, flash..etc that don't available from official repo and fendy or postintaller .. then try add russian fedora repo. I found lot of software such SSR which is don't available at COPR right now..

su -c 'dnf install —nogpgcheck http://mirror.yandex.ru/fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/free/fedora/russianfedora-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://mirror.yandex.ru/fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/nonfree/fedora/russianfedora-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm'

source : https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/79094/why-cant-i-compile-simple-screen-recorder-from-source-in-f23/

@decause It will be easier if you write @jflory7 ping

@decause It will be easier if you write @jflory7 ping

We got it all figured out. :)

Yeah, but just in case ?

Wow. I'm new user on Fedora. I did not know fendy or postinstaller.

Yeah, but just in case ?

Thanks :)

Paolo, Fedy or PostinstallerF are very similar. In general, Postinstaller worked better for me. But it's just my experience.

Wow. I'm new user on Fedora. I did not know fendy or postinstaller.

You are using fedora 23? Most people don't recomend to use fendy and postinstaller.. but as end user , I think It okey.. give a try..

I found this on r/Linux https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2yqfqp/just_found_that_pulseaudio_have_noise

But not working for me..

even after pulseaudio -k command

there is noice came from my hdd disk spin.. and it recorded with my screencast. Does anyone know how to remove noise from video?

That's weird... Why your hard disk makes so much noise?

the rotor get caught in audio.. not sure if it came from disk or webcam

does low latency kernel helps?

I don't know, my hard disk gets noisy at times but not that much to be recorded.

Take a sample

ERROR: S client not available

btw.. Gnome now has their own AI like cortana and siri..LeL

Oh, really? And how does it works?

just via extension

not from the core

check it out https://community.mycroft.ai/t/mycroft-ai-gnome-shell-extension-release/662

any e.g.o (extensions.gnome.org) dev here?

I really like the new Fedora Media Writer ?

In Fedora 23 or 24?

I'm on Fedora 24

Oh! I tried the one is on Fedora 23 and it's very nice, I don't know if there is any difference

I will send a picture after I've installed my system

I really like the new Fedora Media Writer ?

There is some discussion on mailing list related the Fedora media writer https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7G4F4Z3XK3K45CTYIDZ6POZPEBUVONS2/

There is some discussion on mailing list related the Fedora media writer https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7G4F4Z3XK3K45CTYIDZ6POZPEBUVONS2/

A lot of discussion over there, it worked perfectly for me.

it haves Google Drive!

What they called "Google Drive support" in 3.18 was something crappy, which breaks files if you dare to open them in some program.

Overall GNOME is more complete DE than Xfce

Next version of XFCE has stated to be fully ported to GTK3. But without visual changes. I like that.

Smooth, simple. Lacks of simplicity when you want to customize things

But if you do not need to configure anything, then it just works. Do you really need to configure anything? Even the position of the panel in programs?

No, that's a bad idea. People who prefer any of the other desktops will look up somewhere else for a distribution. And if they come from a different OS and dislike Gnome won't even consider it as option.

If they dislike GNOME, they can pick other distribution, which has focus on the other DE. And this distribution has many chances to have this DE in perfect state, like GNOME in Fedora Workstation. Integrated and seamless.

I suppose, you will not understand that, but that is my point of view.

I think what you're describing is the job of "spins"

Let the distro handle all DEs, but in different "sub-distros", spins in Fedora

What's that yellow thing on your touchpad? Is it broken?

No. I think this is for "disabling it", because it can interfere with keyboard typing, moving the cursor.

Recently I read an article with the technical overview on why 4, 8, 16, and 32 GB are no enough.

You can always use the RAM in different ways, even if your programs do not use all of it. So, the more RAM is always better.

Even if you don't know how to use that extra memory, there are FS caches, which kernel automatically uses.

At least, you can also mount /tmp as tmpfs.

Which is you prefer browse internet between Firefox and Chrome?

I use Firefox, but I personally think, what it is in a bad state right now, waiting for servo to come in (but without these crutches like browser.html, just instead of gecko in current Firefox). Chrome will just ate all of my RAM.

I also prefer Firefox, sadly Google now supports Linux with Chrome/Chromium better than Mozilla.

This is very sad. I need to use extensions to have things like native notifications and gnome-keyring support.

You cannot remove GDrive support from Nautilus either AFAIK. You just don't have to use it and it's not visible, just like you can remove Pocket icon from the bar and forget about it. I mean... I'm not a proponent of closed services, but bundling their support in free software is common which is why I think the Pocket case is a bit of a storm in a glass of water.

GDrive is a gvfs driver, and it can be just disabled in configure, I think. But it is enabled in Fedora builds, because it IS useful. So, the only option here to remove any nonfree stuff, is to use something like "FSF-approved GNU version of Gentoo GNU/Hurd"...

But they are also claimed, what they will make Pocket as an bundled extension, which can be removed or disabled. If they still did'nt did it already.

FESCO is more worried about enforced extension signing without possibility to disable it, then with some addon which uses nonfree services or automatically installing openh264, or other things... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-Fedora-Unsigned

My understanding of the Firefox signing thing is that normal users are supposed to use the "locked" version, while power users who want to install non-signed extensions can do so by installing a different version of firefox

is this not case? am I misunderstanding?

My understanding of the Firefox signing thing is that normal users are supposed to use the "locked" version, while power users who want to install non-signed extensions can do so by installing a different version of firefox

No. They want to force signing for Firefox, and provide "unbranded" version in which you can install all extensions. Even unsigned.