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天荣
27.03.2017
16:26:54
Like in most other european countries.

Michał
27.03.2017
16:27:06
at least in Poland, VAT is added to the price of the products so the shop takes care of that

so the only tax a non-business owner is concerned about is an income tax

Gwindor
27.03.2017
16:27:51
Here in Spain we have so much many more taxes.
Well, property tax. Govt knows how much property cost, so, you pay tax on it that govt defines. Car tax. Govt knows how much HP does your car has, so, they know how much you should pay.

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Gwindor
27.03.2017
16:28:03
And everything like that.

VAT is up to shops here as well.

Michał
27.03.2017
16:28:40
Here in Spain we have so much many more taxes.
What kind of taxes do you have to fill? I do pay property tax, but the goverment knows what taxable property do I own so they just send me a receipt, and for car taxes - it's included in gas price so I don't care

Gwindor
27.03.2017
16:29:20
I only pay property tax.

Personally.

Gwindor
27.03.2017
16:29:58
Cars, houses, commercial agreements, etc
What is commercial agreement?

天荣
27.03.2017
16:30:27
selling and buying shit through contracts

lol

Michał
27.03.2017
16:30:37
so what tax documents do average, non business owning person have to fill on a yearly basis? Not talking about business people here

Gwindor
27.03.2017
16:30:47
lol
Never did that, honestly.

天荣
27.03.2017
16:30:55
IDK dude, I don't fill my taxes yet

Michał
27.03.2017
16:31:24
so I guess it's just like it is in Poland

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Erisson
27.03.2017
16:47:57
Talking about goverment taxes?

Alseg
27.03.2017
16:48:18
Anybody have access to RH customer portal for read one KB?

Kohane
27.03.2017
17:19:28
And Microsoft Office is a terrible suite...
What would be a good suite for you?

天荣
27.03.2017
17:19:58
What would be a good suite for you?
I don't really care about Office suites, but Apple Pages seems pretty good.

The one from IBM, based on LibreOffice, looked good too, but I think it was discontinued

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Lotus_Symphony

Yep, discontinued

I personally use LaTeX for text documents, and reveal.js for presentations.

Kohane
27.03.2017
17:21:15
天荣
27.03.2017
17:21:32
Both are complicated and painful.
Painful... Definitely not.

When in Word you move a picture 2 mm to the right and the document completely fucks up... That doesn't sound like good UX to me.

天荣
27.03.2017
17:23:43
You must be the only person in the world who never had problems with Microsoft Word :P

Martín
27.03.2017
17:34:54
Word is not so bad with a good template and styles, but LaTeX is better in bibliography and for writing without worrying about styles and layout: once you have a good template you can write without worry about page breaks, pictures layout, double spaces, etc.

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Martín
27.03.2017
17:35:10
In addition you have warnings for layout problems

It's also lighter to write as you can write in any editor

And you can write with dark background without style bugs ?

Eduard
27.03.2017
17:55:07
https://fedoramagazine.org/using-cloud-init-initialize-fedora-cloud-vms-ovirt/

分解物質
27.03.2017
18:36:09
It's 2015. Why do terminal programs interpret 1970s escape codes instead of html? You'd think by now 'echo <b>bold</b>' would work.

Michał
27.03.2017
18:36:55
Why HTML? it's horribly inefficient

分解物質
27.03.2017
18:37:21
Why HTML? it's horribly inefficient
do you prefer CSS for it?

Michał
27.03.2017
18:37:32
to make it even slower?

Michał
27.03.2017
18:39:06
I hoped it was satire, but wasn't sure ?

分解物質
27.03.2017
18:39:31
i think if tty was invented today it would have some trash like that

and seriously, emulating this dumb terminals from 60s and having code in kernel for it instand of focusing on providing good graphics api in 21 cent. sounds stupidly

Tobias?
27.03.2017
18:44:54
Michał
27.03.2017
18:45:27
markdown in terminal?

coloring and whatnot needs to be as fast as possible, and it won't get any faster with current streaming architecture

for anything other than streaming text we've got GUI

Tobias?
27.03.2017
18:47:06
echo _lol_

if stdout - apply bold

Michał
27.03.2017
18:47:44
hm, could work

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Michał
27.03.2017
18:48:23
but then you would need to get at least the whole paragraph until you can apply the formatting

* hello... and you don't know whether to make it italic or a list

Tobias?
27.03.2017
18:52:11
if not multiline ....

Michał
27.03.2017
18:53:13
then what? Make it bold at first, then switch to list if it would be a list after all in the next line?

that way or another, that would be a big performance hit

Tobias?
27.03.2017
18:56:09
then what? Make it bold at first, then switch to list if it would be a list after all in the next line?
wait for another line a few ms or heck make bold and list seperate symbols

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Tobias?
27.03.2017
18:56:41
also wasnt it *bold text* and * list anyway?

Michał
27.03.2017
18:56:56
**bold** and *italic*

Denis
27.03.2017
18:59:47
What you want to do?...

bold and italic?...

Isak
27.03.2017
19:05:56
/names

/names@TeledoraBot

Hmrf, sorry.

Host
27.03.2017
19:06:44
does this group have an off-topic?

Isak
27.03.2017
19:06:56
/names

Tobias?
27.03.2017
19:19:00
bold and italic?...
that but in a linux terminal

Tough general Linix Questions are still kind of on topic

Unless you are a Traitor and use Arch/'buntu XD

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Ghazwan Aliesh
27.03.2017
19:21:14
Unless you are a Traitor and use Arch/'buntu XD
What about mint ppl, aren't they traitors ?

Michał
27.03.2017
19:26:13
mint is worse than Ubuntu

https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

Justin
27.03.2017
19:28:53
I feel like people mostly use Mint because it uses Cinnamon by default, but it's not the only distro that uses Cinnamon or has it as an option.

Michał
27.03.2017
19:29:42
Isn't it because it ships with Flash, nVidia drivers and all codecs by default?

Ghazwan Aliesh
27.03.2017
19:31:08
mint is worse than Ubuntu
I didn't try any other distro, but I may find someone who tell me that fedora is the worst, IMHO, these companies hire best programmer and it couldn't be that bad, I mean Ubuntu, mint, fedora .. etc)

Michał
27.03.2017
19:34:24
Mint isn't done by any company

it's just some people who took Ubuntu and hacked over it to include stuff which is not shipped by default for a reason

Michał
27.03.2017
19:35:43
Cinnamon is one thing, and Linux Mint as a whole is another. You can use Cinnamon on other distributions which don't have Mint's problems

Samuele
27.03.2017
19:36:29
Cinnamon is a project of linux mint

Samuele
27.03.2017
19:36:50
Full disclaimer I don't like mint

Michał
27.03.2017
19:37:12
Cinnamon is a project of linux mint
yes, but Linux Mint as a distro is a mess, even though Cinnamon may be good

Michał
27.03.2017
19:38:43
imho XFCE is a nice desktop, even though I'm sitting on awesomewm right now

Ghazwan Aliesh
27.03.2017
19:40:31
yes, but Linux Mint as a distro is a mess, even though Cinnamon may be good
+, bunch of kids could work on KD or even more, but distro need company.

Even if kernel was make but one person, not everyone has that person's powes.

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