So, the same as on Ubuntu :)

But after some time Ubuntu gets messed. Fedora doesn't

Are you Polish by chance?

yeah

yeah

You see @LiFo14 ? He's Polish, he can't be angry. They're all very nice. it's a nice bear. That's it.

I had some experience with that crap!

I guess for the ł in your name Michał ?

You see @LiFo14 ? He's Polish, he can't be angry. They're all very nice. it's a nice bear. That's it.

Okay But I thought he tried to eat me

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I had some experience with that crap!

What crap?? ?

Ubuntu gets messed, that's true, but you can get to the same level with Fedora if you do the same thing you did on Ubuntu

What crap?? ?

Ubuntu I hate it So much

Ubuntu I hate it So much

Yes. I don't like it either.

It's only one repository. I had to install PPAs even to get a decent version of Gimp. Come one. Gimp.

i needed an external fedora repo for virtualbox, lol

Yes. I don't like it either.

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Ubuntu gets messed, that's true, but you can get to the same level with Fedora if you do the same thing you did on Ubuntu

But why would I need to? Besides codecs, Fedora comes with everything in repositories. I don't need to go chasing versions and programmes all around internet to get things done.

But why would I need to? Besides codecs, Fedora comes with everything in repositories. I don't need to go chasing versions and programmes all around internet to get things done.

Actually yes, there's a way to live without adding extra repos :3

one thing i really dont like about fedora is that it pretty much requires rpmfusion. i dont like trusting 3rd parties.

its..windows-tier

I think Linux is all about 3rd parties

It is like module architecture

not rly, you should only trust your distro

for me a distro is more like a service than a piece of software

But why would I need to? Besides codecs, Fedora comes with everything in repositories. I don't need to go chasing versions and programmes all around internet to get things done.

Spotify? Recent node.js i need at work? There are many examples, you never have everything

Spotify? Recent node.js i need at work? There are many examples, you never have everything

Build from sources!

also, how the hell can i install netbeans on fedora? on every other distro ive tried its in main repos but fedora doesnt seem to have it

also, how the hell can i install netbeans on fedora? on every other distro ive tried its in main repos but fedora doesnt seem to have it

Get from Oracle website and install...

Build from sources!

meh, packages were invented for a reason

meh, packages were invented for a reason

Sometimes it is useful to build

Sometimes it is useful to build

yeah, but its a last resort for me ?

Get from Oracle website and install...

untracked software...ugh

3rd party as well

thats a bad method.

besides, i tried that on a test pc. the installer didnt even work.

lately I was using docker to get specific versions of tools I need, its very convenient

Isn't netbeans able to check for updates?

lately I was using docker to get specific versions of tools I need, its very convenient

Docker is life!

Isn't netbeans able to check for updates?

i dont want windows lol

I moved my public repo on docker hub, so my microbages are broken now ?

i dont want windows lol

but it will be up-to-date in this case

PostInstallerF will install all necessary, after to run first time Fedora. Its easy for new user. PostInstallerF contains everything you need.

Yes. Sometimes is a bit slow but besides that is very good.

like fedora has copr

I never used copr. What is it for?

basically ppas

sorta like AUR.

Ah, okay, I can live without it me think.

I never used copr. What is it for?

COPR is a place where developers can offer their packages for software without going through the entire packaging process to get it into Fedora proper. Sometimes it's helpful for testing the software before submitting it to the Fedora repositories, sometimes people just use it to offer their software entirely and skip the packaging process (not recommended). Sometimes there's great things on there, other times, I wouldn't dare put something there on my laptop. It's kind of hit or miss because you're basically trusting the developer who is offering the software there.

COPR is a place where developers can offer their packages for software without going through the entire packaging process to get it into Fedora proper. Sometimes it's helpful for testing the software before submitting it to the Fedora repositories, sometimes people just use it to offer their software entirely and skip the packaging process (not recommended). Sometimes there's great things on there, other times, I wouldn't dare put something there on my laptop. It's kind of hit or miss because you're basically trusting the developer who is offering the software there.

Oh. Thank you for the explanation. Now I understand better.

It is not so different that ubuntu ppas

Oh. Thank you for the explanation. Now I understand better.

? The *intent* for it is to be used for testing. If someone is permanently offering their software there, that deserves an eyebrow raise.

It is usefull for boostraping

And there are a lot of software for epel, most of the time newers versions than the available in the epel repo

COPR is a place where developers can offer their packages for software without going through the entire packaging process to get it into Fedora proper. Sometimes it's helpful for testing the software before submitting it to the Fedora repositories, sometimes people just use it to offer their software entirely and skip the packaging process (not recommended). Sometimes there's great things on there, other times, I wouldn't dare put something there on my laptop. It's kind of hit or miss because you're basically trusting the developer who is offering the software there.

Talk about laptops...

Your profile says you used to have Apple software and such... What laptop do you have at the moment?

Your profile says you used to have Apple software and such... What laptop do you have at the moment?

His profile... where?

His profile... where?

Fedora

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Ah... that makes sense, is been a long while without looking into them ?

@ Hi! Welcome aboard

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Haha

Hello test and add this wi-fi board in Fedora 25. Boardcom BCM43142 802.11b/g/n

Hello test and add this wi-fi board in Fedora 25. Boardcom BCM43142 802.11b/g/n

I'm afraid that doesn't work quite like that...

increase the support for this doard

increase the support for this doard

If you wish to see support for it, you should probably try looking into who offers the drivers and see if they have plans to make them available in a Linux distribution.

increase the support for this doard

Wanna help us? Make a bounty. Or donate that Wi-Fi board. Or maybe send logs.

Open Hardware and Free Mounts

ERROR: S client not available

This is my laptop's keyboard

Hey @Shantorn, welcome! ?

hi there jflory

Almost 700 Fedorians

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will often irc is a bit quiet

i did not realize this was bridged there, thats nice

i did not realize this was bridged there, thats nice

Yep! #fedora-telegram on Freenode. :)

will often irc is a bit quiet

It's probably going to be even more quiet than normal until 5 February. Telegram is convenient because I can use it from my phone in the airport. IRC is a little trickier…

well my oldest daughter just informed me she was coming over to see me so i had better clean up this bachaelor pad so she doesnt fuss over my tools and wires and stuff spread out!

justin i will be back here to get to know some of you a bit

Sounds good, catch you around! Enjoy your time with her. ?

i did not realize this was bridged there, thats nice

what does this mean, by the way? never really cared about it.

what does this mean, by the way? never really cared about it.

Forwards IRC messages to Telegram and back.

interesting

pionen[m]: And riot too.

K

nice.

i can imagine most of the irc's messages consisting of this chat, then

pionen[m]: @fedora + #fedora-telegram + #freenode_#fedora-telegram:matrix.org

Beautiful. What model of laptop is it?

In spain its a mountain studiomx154g , in the world its a clevo w350

dunno if w350sk or w350st

Why the difference?

Anyway, I don't know the brand.

Why the difference?

Shops buy the components to the factories

and they assemble the laptop

and get their logos on it

but you can find it if you look for clevo w350