that's pretty. what do your windows look like?

And yes. You mean Adwaita.

i only know about the adwaita gtk and cursor theme, heh. i like the adwaita cursor.

You mean Adwaita?

Adwaita is a theme. The Window Manager is Mutter.

Adwaita is a theme. The Window Manager is Mutter.

The window manager can't be ugly.

Themes can.

GNOME's default theme is Adwaita.

it looks alright.

a little bit too big, maybe.

a little bit too big, maybe.

I use 1920*1080 resolution, it doesn't made me problems... ?

not bad!

i think you can tweak it. maybe.

You have to install Gnome Tweak for that. But anyway, there are other more configurable window managers.

Thanks @MichaelMendes !

Thanks @MichaelMendes !

You're welcome, Sir! :)

Miss, actually. I'm a lady, haha.

i use cinnamon

Cinnamon is very nice and it's more configurable than Gnome 3. But I like Gnome workflow.

The window manager can't be ugly.

I know, that's why I did that commment. I think @hesuccme confuses one thing with the another. But it's not surprising as the default Gnome comes with no tool to tweak it.

I've installed KDE lately and I'm impressed by how good this is

I know, that's why I did that commment. I think @hesuccme confuses one thing with the another. But it's not surprising as the default Gnome comes with no tool to tweak it.

sudo dnf install gnome-tweak-tool is the solution! ?

i dont want eclipse. i dont even like eclipse. gedit just looks bad and i would prefer using vim, emacs, mousepad, kate or even notepad++ or notepad over it.

Pluma, Kate, Vim. According to my non asked opinion.

I loved it during 3.x days, tried to like it during early 4.x but it was too unstable, now I've been using it for a few days and it really seems to be what I was looking for

sudo dnf install gnome-tweak-tool is the solution! ?

Yes, but you have to know that it exists. I think they should ship it by default.

Yes, but you have to know that it exists. I think they should ship it by default.

Yes, it might be a nice idea..

Yes, it might be a nice idea..

Feature request to our Gnome team? ?

Feature request to our Gnome team? ?

uh, where may I send that kind of request?

I bet it would be agains Gnome philosophy of providing the least possible configuration options and defaults that should be okayish for everybody, similar to what mac does

I loved it during 3.x days, tried to like it during early 4.x but it was too unstable, now I've been using it for a few days and it really seems to be what I was looking for

Nice. I'll install and try it. Last time I used it I was disappointed by the lack of options compared to Plasma 4. But maybe that changed meanwhile.

uh, where may I send that kind of request?

Opening a ticket in Bugzilla.

Opening a ticket in Bugzilla.

OK, I will, thanks!

Nice. I'll install and try it. Last time I used it I was disappointed by the lack of options compared to Plasma 4. But maybe that changed meanwhile.

I can definitely suggest you to try it, no idea what specifically you'd be looking for, but overall KDE has more configuration options that I need

I bet it would be agains Gnome philosophy of providing the least possible configuration options and defaults that should be okayish for everybody, similar to what mac does

LOL probably. But maybe if enough people ask for it, our clamor reach them and they accept to add a tweaking tool like all the other desktops.

I am amused the most about the possibility of setting specific window decoration color scheme per application/window rule, so you can make your terminal decoration black while rest is colorful

but I like it

i hate not to have the numpad

I hate to have a numpad on 15" laptops due to off-centered keyboards.

Well, I always found the num pad rather redundant.

Same here.

i got used to mine and itsnt that bad

I can definitely suggest you to try it, no idea what specifically you'd be looking for, but overall KDE has more configuration options that I need

Yes, I know, and I love that. But Plasma 5, last time I tried and it was half a year ago or more, had less options than Plasma 4. In example, splashcreens were only a few and it was impossible to install others. Same for SDDM.

Uhm, is there a way to add a "screensaver" with GNOME3?

but now i have problems when i use a normal keyboard

I hate to have a numpad on 15" laptops due to off-centered keyboards.

Actually, I think the Num Pad is a legacy thing, like the qwerty configuration.

Uhm, is there a way to add a "screensaver" with GNOME3?

the only I can think of would be to disable the Gnome3 screensaver and use xscreensaver instead

the only I can think of would be to disable the Gnome3 screensaver and use xscreensaver instead

oh, damn..

Uhm, is there a way to add a "screensaver" with GNOME3?

Not that I know of. I've been searching for that and lockscreen but I found nothing so far.

Where is the Gnome screensaver Michał ? I can't find it.

Where is the Gnome screensaver Michał ? I can't find it.

same here LOL

Where is the Gnome screensaver Michał ? I can't find it.

They are using some minimalistic lock screen with time and so on, maybe there's a way to disable it and use xscreensaver? There's some way described on askubuntu, but I have no idea whether it's working: https://askubuntu.com/questions/67355/how-do-i-completely-turn-off-screensaver-and-power-management#67361

but now i have problems when i use a normal keyboard

Yes, that always happens. Once you get used to your mouse, touchpad or keyboard and for any given reason have to use another one (like in a borrowed laptop or a library's computer) it's a hell of confusion. But that's normal, happens with all types of hardware.

They are using some minimalistic lock screen with time and so on, maybe there's a way to disable it and use xscreensaver? There's some way described on askubuntu, but I have no idea whether it's working: https://askubuntu.com/questions/67355/how-do-i-completely-turn-off-screensaver-and-power-management#67361

Damn with Gnome minimalistic stuff! I'll take a look and see if I can configure it.

BTW, what happened to Gnome-screensaver? It used to be there. Although I used to uninstall it for Xscreensaver LOL

Actually, I think the Num Pad is a legacy thing, like the qwerty configuration.

Not always:

No, I mean, the Num Pad at right of the keyboard, as desktop keyboards have

No, I mean, the Num Pad at right of the keyboard, as desktop keyboards have

Then you are right.

But I mean, having an off-centered keyboard on a laptop is not confortable.

Yes, of course.

And it makes the laptop innecesarily bigger.

@Kohane May I say "get out" to Windows users?

Yes, sure, go ahead.

GUI editors can't handle that I think

Of course they can. Try the same with Pluma.

Yes, sure, go ahead.

You are awesome :з

Why that?

Just expression of my fillings

Feelings. "Fillings" is what you put inside a biscuit.

Of course they can. Try the same with Pluma.

We talked about editors like gedit...

Feelings. "Fillings" is what you put inside a biscuit.

Lol Of course

We talked about editors like gedit...

I know, and you talked so much that I'm still reading LOL

Of course they can. Try the same with Pluma.

Sublime is able to handle big files nicely as far as I know

Sublime is able to handle big files nicely as far as I know

But Sublime is an IDE not a text editor AFAIK

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nope, it's a text editor, you can make it a poor-man's ide with plugins if you want

be like sweden

Even the Swedish have limits...

I know, and you talked so much that I'm still reading LOL

I'm chatty a bit ?

No, I mean "you" in the sense of "you all". Not only you @LiFo14

:c

We are all chatty then

i thought fedora made an exception for proprietary drivers.

No. Fedora makes some exceptions on firmware, but propietary drivers you still have to install them from a third party.

:c

Why the sad face? I like it.

Graphic explanation of talking to a Gnome developer LOL

Yes, you are. I know the developer there, he's very good on what he does.

Guys, can someone tell me what is a basic Xscreensaver - screensaver who only shows hostname and time?

That depends on the desktop you use. But I think Xscreensaver gives that bare option.

That depends on the desktop you use. But I think Xscreensaver gives that bare option.

I can't find it ?

It's a mess with a million repositories scattered around everywhere.

Exactly. Ubuntu is already a mess. To get half of the software you need to install it from some PPA. Sooner or later you end up with messed repositories and the system not working or slow... I guess it's fine for Windows users who are used to this kind of problems, but for people who want their stuff done without breaking the system at the minimum change... I don't think so.

I can't find it ?

Let me check. It's been years without using it.

Let me check. It's been years without using it.

oh, ok, thanks.

Graphic explanation of talking to a Gnome developer LOL

?

Exactly. Ubuntu is already a mess. To get half of the software you need to install it from some PPA. Sooner or later you end up with messed repositories and the system not working or slow... I guess it's fine for Windows users who are used to this kind of problems, but for people who want their stuff done without breaking the system at the minimum change... I don't think so.

Let's be honest here, Fedora is not much better in this regard. First thing I do is enable rpm-fusion to get the media codecs I am going to use

Not sure if there's any solution to that besides stuff like Flatpak, but I wouldn't say it's user friendly at this point

I know, that's why I did that commment. I think @hesuccme confuses one thing with the another. But it's not surprising as the default Gnome comes with no tool to tweak it.

oops.

Let's be honest here, Fedora is not much better in this regard. First thing I do is enable rpm-fusion to get the media codecs I am going to use

Fedora is really much better here. It is hard to mess all up...

Fedora is really much better here. It is hard to mess all up...

Why it's harder? Are there any mechanisms that protect us from broken repos that are absent in Ubuntu?

Yes, you are. I know the developer there, he's very good on what he does.

the program feels very scary.

and the programs official repo downloads it from sourceforge. i dont like that.

Why it's harder? Are there any mechanisms that protect us from broken repos that are absent in Ubuntu?

You just add repo while installing some packages and it doesn't bother you.

oh, ok, thanks.

Run (as superuser) this command: dnf search screensaver It will show all the kinds of screensaver you have, there is Xscreensver-base and extras, that's what you need.

@Kohane Save me from angry bear?

Run (as superuser) this command: dnf search screensaver It will show all the kinds of screensaver you have, there is Xscreensver-base and extras, that's what you need.

Thank you so much! :D Have a nice day!

You just add repo while installing some packages and it doesn't bother you.

So, the same as on Ubuntu :)

@Kohane Save me from angry bear?

I'm not angry :P

Let's be honest here, Fedora is not much better in this regard. First thing I do is enable rpm-fusion to get the media codecs I am going to use

It's only one repository. I had to install PPAs even to get a decent version of Gimp. Come one. Gimp.

I'm not angry :P

Are you Polish by chance?