BTW why the Kernel has better support on Intel chips? Intel open-sourced their firmware?

No, not the (needed in the latest models only) firmware. The driver was open source from the very beginning and intel did a pretty good job maintaining it.

Heck they have, afaik, opencl support ootb.

Only amd is even close to such consumer-friendly behaviour, despite intels other dickb*g tactics in the silicon market.

oh thank you for correcting me

"Telegram is considered as a security risk." Shall we all have to move to matrix?

Is considered by who? And how is it a security risk? There's nothing 100% secure in this world.

how that works for you?

Very nicely. I love KDE again. I almost forgot how awesome is.

Is considered by who? And how is it a security risk? There's nothing 100% secure in this world.

It's a long story. Nevermind.

"Telegram is considered as a security risk." Shall we all have to move to matrix?

We've always known that TG chats are not encrypted and actively being seen by the govt.

Matrix isn't really that intutive for public chats.

We've always known that TG chats are not encrypted and actively being seen by the govt.

They are encrypted in transit and they try their best to not have govt snoop in.

They are encrypted in transit and they try their best to not have govt snoop in.

But they might have handed over the keys.

But they might have handed over the keys.

Thats why for any secure chat you use secure chats.

Because these are end 2 end.

And groups in tg are 99% public anyway so anyone can join.

Suse great with KDE, if yu want to choose between that 3, then Arch Linux for KDE. But, be carefull when updating plasma.

Suse or OpenSuse? I like it, but I have no Tumbleweed ISO at the moment. Why Arch with KDE is better (in your opinion)?

We've always known that TG chats are not encrypted and actively being seen by the govt.

There are encrypted private conversations, if you need it.

And groups in tg are 99% public anyway so anyone can join.

Ikr. My point is, we know that and we are ok with using TG so moving to matrix entirely isn't a good idea.

Lol, Matrix has an even worse stance on privacy

Only the public homeservers.

There are encrypted private conversations, if you need it.

The encryption is a joke

This is why you don't roll your own crypto

I'm not planning to put a bomb in Westminster or kill a president/PM/chancellor/whatever, so I can't be bothered.

I'm not planning to put a bomb in Westminster or kill a president/PM/chancellor/whatever, so I can't be bothered.

See thats the wrong attitude with a lot of people. I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care if they spy on me.

They will anyway. If they want to.

Besides, who is "they"?

We're starting to sound like paranoids...

Its not being paranoid. Its plain fact.

Besides, who is "they"?

The NSA, every govt agency ever, etc.

Besides, who is "they"?

Other way around, why would you make it easy for anyone to snoop?

Your privacy is your right by default.

"Going dark" should be the default, not a single case.

Is Tensorflow available for Fedora?

Is Tensorflow available for Fedora?

Yes, but cuda requires the nvidia prop libs.

Its not being paranoid. Its plain fact.

This

"Going dark" should be the default, not a single case.

Wish it easy to do

If you have an amd gpu you can use ROCM and the hip port of tensorflow by amd.

Wish it easy to do

It pretty much is.

IRC is dying slowly

Thankfully. I never liked it. I only use it for Fedora meetings, and now I have to log in and sort...

Wish it easy to do

It kinda is

Yes, but cuda requires the nvidia prop libs.

Don't have a Nvidia card anyways

Don't have a Nvidia card anyways

Hrm? Which one then?

Hrm? Which one then?

Just Intel Integrated graphics

It kinda is

Not the proxy way

Just Intel Integrated graphics

Then no, its not available.

@Wolfshappen https://m.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/lenovo-w701ds-in-top-zustand-mit-vollausstattung/960145485-278-9476 Is this collection only? My German is... non-existant and I really want to know if I can get it

Not the proxy way

What do you mean not the proxy way?

Then no, its not available.

But it seems it can be installed using pip

Other way around, why would you make it easy for anyone to snoop?

Right. Making it easy for others to snoop, no. But I can't see any good alternative to Telegram anyway.

Tensor needs either cuda (nvidia) or HIP (amd, nvidia, intel (planned) support.).

But it seems it can be installed using pip

It won't work

But it seems it can be installed using pip

You cant make it run anyway.

you need intel or amd to get it to run.

The NSA, every govt agency ever, etc.

Well, then my points stands. If the NSA or similar agency wants to snoops, they will.

you need intel or amd to get it to run.

How?

While HIP plans to support all platforms eventually so far only amd and nvidia really run.

What do you mean not the proxy way?

I mean using proxy chains to go dark and not be traced easily

How?

Because tensor only exists as HIP or CUDA version.

And HIP intel support is abysmal and cuda is nonexistant.

What about installing on Windows, will that work?

No.

What about installing on Windows, will that work?

Nope

You can only run it in super, super slow cpu mode.

besides, I don't see how the CoC applies to a company... I mean, last I checked, companies don't have feelings.

LMAO A company with feelings would be a spectacle worth watching.

LMAO A company with feelings would be a spectacle worth watching.

Well, Oracle comes pretty close - whenever it fears a single lost dollar it lashes out with claws of lawyers.

Well, Oracle comes pretty close - whenever it fears a single lost dollar it lashes out with claws of lawyers.

its their buisness model. Earn money through lawsuits.

its their buisness model. Earn money through lawsuits.

I agree. It's not a feeling. They don't get offended. It's just a business model. That is utter trash, yes, but unrelated to emotions.

But Tensorflow cpu one should work

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But Tensorflow cpu one should work

Its slow and only has been added 24 days ago.

To train a model you'll have to wait weeks.

Well, I don't know what I'm doing. Haven't done these stuff before. Just need to have a peak and see what's what.

Good...I realized i wasn't being a good org admin for GSoC

Well, now you know it. ?

I will try running it with proton today :3

Any news about this?

Any news about this?

Currently downloading :3

I will inform you once I test it.

Oh. Okay. Thanks.

Well, now you know it. ?

I wasn't doing a bad job — I had no serious incidents — just want to be more involved

Well, I don't know what I'm doing. Haven't done these stuff before. Just need to have a peak and see what's what.

https://playground.tensorflow.org/

Here is a simplified, visual, in-browser version of a perceptron.

I wasn't doing a bad job — I had no serious incidents — just want to be more involved

That's good.

@Kohane didn't you used for have a chromebook? May I ask what happened to it? Do you still use it? How would you rate it's usefulness?

Oh, the Chromebook? I'm stuck. I changed my email password and now it doesn't let me login. I will do a factory reset between today and tomorrow.

What did you use to do with it?

Usefulness rate... For very simple, online tasks is good. But nothing else. The memory is super limited. My iPhone has more memory. So having and editing real files is completely out of question as well as any "heavy" task.

Usefulness rate... For very simple, online tasks is good. But nothing else. The memory is super limited. My iPhone has more memory. So having and editing real files is completely out of question as well as any "heavy" task.

Hmm.. How about office stuff?

Some context: I just downloaded and wrote a special chromium os iso to a hard disk and I'm thinking of using it on my old machine, I just wants understand what it can do.

Hmm.. How about office stuff?

No, forget it. Only online like MS Office (the one that comes with Outlook) or iCloud/iWorks. Installing an office packet will clutter the limited memory it has.

Some context: I just downloaded and wrote a special chromium os iso to a hard disk and I'm thinking of using it on my old machine, I just wants understand what it can do.

By default only running a browser. And it can use in-browser apps.

Most of which are online.

gdocs has a kinda-working offline version.

Some context: I just downloaded and wrote a special chromium os iso to a hard disk and I'm thinking of using it on my old machine, I just wants understand what it can do.

Oh, I don't know then. I never used Chromium OS outside the Chromebook.

By default only running a browser. And it can use in-browser apps.

That's what I thought, but the newest version has a media and a video player ?‍♂

gdocs has a kinda-working offline version.

Mmmm

No, forget it. Only online like MS Office (the one that comes with Outlook) or iCloud/iWorks. Installing an office packet will clutter the limited memory it has.

Thats what I thought

Oh, I don't know then. I never used Chromium OS outside the Chromebook.

It's not that different, at best you'd have a different browser, and different keyboard layouts

You can have different keyboard layouts in Chromebook too.

It's tricky to switch between them, but the option is there.

You can have different keyboard layouts in Chromebook too.

No, I mean the hardware keyboard

https://playground.tensorflow.org/

Thank you.

No, I mean the hardware keyboard

Ah.