Please, speak in English. If you don't speak English, please, join the Brazilian group.

That's funny because in the latam talks in English

What do you think about isolating bad sectors on a partition? Doable or should avoid It and get a new unit

That shouldn't be necessary. The HDDs replace the bad one with others. If they are not getting replace I would think the device is not good. Either way, you should take notes if the quantity goes up, then the device must be replaced. If it does not sums more damaged sectors, you can isolate it with a partition. Before that you should try writing various times to those sectors and those around them, maybe it will fixed it.

That's funny because in the latam talks in English

Fuck logic, haha

Fuck logic, haha

Yes. When someone else and I said something on it, they didn't like it....

Yes. When someone else and I said something on it, they didn't like it....

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That's funny because in the latam talks in English

I will speak spanish there, until i get kicked out xd

I rather keep the vulnerability than throwing the computer to trash two years before

Saaaaaaame

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Linus rants ?

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Good read: https://medium.com/@caspervonb/why-i-still-use-vim-67afd76b4db6?21

Vim, fast decompiler

Vim > *

Kek

Who said monopoly?: http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-ceo-krzanich-sold-shares-after-company-was-informed-of-chip-flaw-2018-1

no way out

With comparing to Fedora and a few LTS systems, I sometimes feel Fedora to be a certain unstable. At least if you’re suffered against the poor networks as poor as 1MiB/min it needs your luck to refresh our dnf.

anyone know how to install fedora on ryzen

The same way you install it on Intel ?

I don't think there are Ryzen specific installation instructions or methods. My desktop is running Ryzen just fine, for the record. :D

Some systems offer additional microcode packages for AMD/Ryzen hardware, but you're already getting any available microcode from the kernel (or a kernel blob).

Ubuntu is one of those systems that offers it, Fedora is not as it's already there. :)

Are kernel patches for Meltdown live yet? IIRC, Ubuntu will be shipping them on January 9.

Are kernel patches for Meltdown live yet? IIRC, Ubuntu will be shipping them on January 9.

I think so, there was an article in the Fedora magazine about that....

Are kernel patches for Meltdown live yet? IIRC, Ubuntu will be shipping them on January 9.

https://fedoramagazine.org/protect-fedora-system-meltdown/

Awesome! Thanks @buredoRUNofthecyborg, @skamath.

https://fedoramagazine.org/protect-fedora-system-meltdown/

Yes, thanks @skamath

I had the tab open. You're welcome ?

hello guys

help me

i have error

Error: Failed to create cache directory: /dev/shm/trkcache/settings

shm is mounted

its good

how to fix this error?

I need some help with EFI stuff. I've downloaded some strange distro(just to try) and it seems it doesn't have EFI folder, and in legacy mode, it cannot write GRUB to hdd. How can I make it EFI-bootable?

I need some help with EFI stuff. I've downloaded some strange distro(just to try) and it seems it doesn't have EFI folder, and in legacy mode, it cannot write GRUB to hdd. How can I make it EFI-bootable?

Which distro, for the record?

Welcome!

Hey guys

How is fedora with meltdown and Spectre vulnerability?

:D

https://fedoramagazine.org/protect-fedora-system-meltdown/

Thanks

What's a different between sudo dnf --refresh update kernel and sudo dnf update?

I think that one is just specific to kernel updates

Whereas the other is all-inclusive, and not preferable for some.

I always do all-inclusive

What's a different between sudo dnf --refresh update kernel and sudo dnf update?

You ahould always do sudo dnf upgrade --refresh --best --allowerasing -y

That will check for newer package lists and upgrade things even if some dependencies arent met like cockpit when they deprecated cockpit-shell.

except if you're using rawhide, in that case that command will sometimes erase packages that have dependencies that haven't been updated in the repos yet

except if you're using rawhide, in that case that command will sometimes erase packages that have dependencies that haven't been updated in the repos yet

And thats why you dont use rawhide, especially as daily driver, because its a terrible idea.

allow me to disagree, rawhide works quite well if you know what you're doing, I'm using it in my personal laptop. From my perspective, auto allow erasing is the terrible idea, you should always confirm first and delete later.

allow me to disagree, rawhide works quite well if you know what you're doing, I'm using it in my personal laptop. From my perspective, auto allow erasing is the terrible idea, you should always confirm first and delete later.

This logic again. Look, rawhide is made so developers get a dirst glance at what might break in future applications. Even a daily user that has tons of experience should not use rawhide

Its guaranteed to wreck your system eventually the installer warns you, the wiki warns you...

And until recently it didnt even have signing keys, making package downloads a risk.

This is not, even if you fever dream somehing different, anything you should be using on a daily basis, even with "tons of experience" or not.

to me, the devs covering their backs by warning people that this specific version is a development branch and may break your computer is not the same as it actually breaking it. I searched a lot before installing rawhide and found many people that use it as their daily driver and had little to no problems

And why must it he rawhide for you?

this, not to say that any spin/distro/release has its problems and may potentialy break things

once again, if you know what you're doing, it's easier to fix/avoid problems

I like rawhide because it's rolling release

On a development kernel, slower by having debugging enabled, constant program rcs and chats just pointing at "rawhide, what'd ya expect" when it will inevitably break?

ERROR: S client not available

I like rawhide because it's rolling release

Fedora stable is almost rolling except one time a year it has a single large update.

Is that really too much.

Alright, guys, chill. Let's just agree to disagree, shall we?

Let's stay this way: You can use rawhide but don't cry when something breaks. We told you ;)

I'm not crying :) In fact, I'm very happy with rawhide

Fedora stable is almost rolling except one time a year it has a single large update.

I've seen some serious breaking happening when people upgraded their releases

I will speak spanish there, until i get kicked out xd

? Makes sense!

With comparing to Fedora and a few LTS systems, I sometimes feel Fedora to be a certain unstable. At least if you’re suffered against the poor networks as poor as 1MiB/min it needs your luck to refresh our dnf.

Yeah, I had that. But I didn't perceive it as "unstability". I just cursed and started over until it's finished. I would rather call it "bad network speed management".

With comparing to Fedora and a few LTS systems, I sometimes feel Fedora to be a certain unstable. At least if you’re suffered against the poor networks as poor as 1MiB/min it needs your luck to refresh our dnf.

I'm on 500 KB/sec internet (at best, average 20 KB), and I don't usually have problems refreshing dnf.

Welcome, Ehsan. Please read the pinned message...

Ok

Welcome, @iamvij! please read the rules in the pinned message....

to me, the devs covering their backs by warning people that this specific version is a development branch and may break your computer is not the same as it actually breaking it. I searched a lot before installing rawhide and found many people that use it as their daily driver and had little to no problems

Interestingly, the perspective on running Rawhide has changed over the years. It used to be much more of a wild rodeo that consistently broke systems. But in a way, it's stabilized, or maybe "matured". There's some core members of the Fedora Infrastructure team that run Rawhide on their personal systems. It's also a great way to experience the latest changes and get a taste of everything new, as it happens.

Like running Arch Linux, things may break sometimes still, but usually it isn't that hard to fix it, if you have an idea of what you're doing.

I've even thought about running Rawhide on my desktop, for a time, just to try it out for a bit.

I've even thought about running Rawhide on my desktop, for a time, just to try it out for a bit.

I'm thinking of using LXQt and i3 rawhide on my old laptop... (I'd like to join the LXQt SIG as a tester)

I'm thinking of using LXQt and i3 rawhide on my old laptop... (I'd like to join the LXQt SIG as a tester)

I'm sure the LXQt SIG could use the help. ?

I'm sure the LXQt SIG could use the help. ?

I'm not sure I can contribute that much, besides testing but it should be a learning opportunity for me atleast :)

I'm not sure I can contribute that much, besides testing but it should be a learning opportunity for me atleast :)

Testing is important! If nobody tests, how the devs can know what is working?

allow me to disagree, rawhide works quite well if you know what you're doing, I'm using it in my personal laptop. From my perspective, auto allow erasing is the terrible idea, you should always confirm first and delete later.

Automatic deletion is an open door to troubles.

https://fedoramagazine.org/kpti-new-kernel-feature-mitigate-meltdown/

I'm not sure I can contribute that much, besides testing but it should be a learning opportunity for me atleast :)

Testing is a great way of contribute

Thanks for the support, @x3mboy @Kohane :)

Interestingly, the perspective on running Rawhide has changed over the years. It used to be much more of a wild rodeo that consistently broke systems. But in a way, it's stabilized, or maybe "matured". There's some core members of the Fedora Infrastructure team that run Rawhide on their personal systems. It's also a great way to experience the latest changes and get a taste of everything new, as it happens.

My perspective exactly, thank you.

Automatic deletion is an open door to troubles.

Also, a big thank you!

Yay, I'm now a Fedora Ambassador ??

Yay, I'm now a Fedora Ambassador ??

Congratulations!

Thanks :D

Yay, I'm now a Fedora Ambassador ??

Awesome! Congratulations.

Yay, I'm now a Fedora Ambassador ??

Congratulations!

Yay, I'm now a Fedora Ambassador ??

Hey, congratulations Anxhelo! Well-deserved. ?