Yet if a friend is careless he is going to break his Fedora systems every 0.5 years.

Actually you can break your system anytime. Why waiting for the next release?

Not standing for software obfuscations, I need to stand this for the Gentoo manuals for using their heart, quite hard to fully ensure what Gentoo is saying how to use their system, but if this is over that is become simple.

May I ask you what’s your mother language?

That Gentoo unneeded complexity is never appeared in pacman stuffs.

Obviously! Gentoo is Gentoo, and Arch is Arch.

Actually you can break your system anytime. Why waiting for the next release?

You dntv much free time but it needs very much time you are going to break system. You are careless or unsure what you’re doing you are still going to break system. If you are sure what you’re doing, and you’re careful, finally you’ve much free time, you are seldom going to damage the system.

I don’t know if you’re a troll or Google Translator is failing more than usual.

I don’t know if you’re a troll or Google Translator is failing more than usual.

It’s wrong but I never trust Google translate, the only kind of sth i trust is English to English online dictionaries. Yet you’re right which I’m not English native.

I can see that. So what’s your mother language?

Obviously! Gentoo is Gentoo, and Arch is Arch.

But also that’s obviously what is contrary between pacman and Gentoo.

I made a question

I can see that. So what’s your mother language?

I’m from HK which my neighbours are FATALLY WEAK IN English.

And HK is...?

.hk

I have no idea what that stands for.

I asked a question. Would you mind to reply, please?

Hong Kong.

Ah, now I get it. Your mother language is Chinese.

Chinese Hong Kong accurately.?

I dunno Mandarin Chinese that’s from the Northern China.

Hong Kong Chinese is distinct from Mandarin Chinese. Hong Kong Chinese is advanced and rich which Mandarin Chinese is stupid.

Hong Kong Chinese is distinct from Mandarin Chinese. Hong Kong Chinese is advanced and rich which Mandarin Chinese is stupid.

Yes, I know they’re different, but now I understand why I was getting lost. Usually I can figure out what the other person is trying to say even if their English isn’t good. But I couldn’t with your messages.

It makes sense. I know nothing of Chinese. Not even a vague idea.

Ah, now I get it. Your mother language is Chinese.

Let's get this clear, although you guys call both Mandarin and Cantonese Chinese, actually they are different. As a Mandarin speaker I cannot understand Cantonese. This also happens for Taiwanese vs Mandarin or Cantonese

ive updated all my 4 laptops linux kernel and feel safe now thank you fedora

1. packard-bell with dual-core celeron and 4 gb ram 2. dell xps with core i5 Ivybridge, 8 gb 3. prestigio shittybook with atom z3735f, 2 gb 4. asus eee pc 1-core 1.7 ghz atom, 1 gb (32 bit, lxqt de) haven't detected 30% slowdown yet

ive updated all my 4 laptops linux kernel and feel safe now thank you fedora

Nice!!!

ive updated all my 4 laptops linux kernel and feel safe now thank you fedora

I was going to update but hdd crashed ?

144 damaged blocks

Would zero-write be of use?

Would zero-write be of use?

with dd?

with dd?

Yes, I have finished now a dd, zeroing the entire disk

Hello, and welcome - ! Please read the pinned message...

I hate welcome-flood.

Yes, I have finished now a dd, zeroing the entire disk

and 144 bad blocks after?

who's the vendor?

Fedora was giving me FPDMA queue error

Noticing several i/o errors

Now I'll check for bad blocks again

I hate welcome-flood.

That`s very social of you.

who's the vendor?

Toshiba

Second cracked Toshiba... Only 1 year 9 months uptime

One thing that bothers me, I cant see SMART info on gnome dosis on that disk

i have one external sony 500gb, it ejects while copying something and one trnscend 1tb which totally doesnt work

both was bought in last two years

and on both hdd's i used luks

bug in dnf, de doesnt matter

try yum

the same problem

It looks like it's a bug caused by /usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf-plugins/imgbased-persist.py

If on gnome3 desktop (dont run desktops in parallel if possible) use the app store to updat.e

Try removing the imgbased package.

it uses pkcon, which uses rpm internally without dnf - so you'll avoid that bug

Yea. I installed imgbased and my dnf is broken too

self.PLUGIN_CONF is a string, while the read_config function is expecting an object-like as its argument.

bгt how dnf reacts for dnf-plugin bug? as i understand dnf-plugin used by gui apps, but dnf is oncly console app, am i right?

thank you! I didn't see that line :( with the graphical software modifier I have removed the imgbased packages and the # dnf update command is working!

bгt how dnf reacts for dnf-plugin bug? as i understand dnf-plugin used by gui apps, but dnf is oncly console app, am i right?

It looks like dnf was at least trying to load that imgbased-persist python module, even if it wasn't planning on using it.

Since that module caused an uncaught exception, it caused dnf to crash.

i think dnf (and yum) must work independently of it

hmm...

I have 4 desktops installed.... with Fedora25 I had a problems, so I just moved back to Fedora24. I bought a new HDD and installed Fedora27 Security LAB, installed MATE desktop, because I like it, its a gnome2 feeling.. but it seems buggy, or my few years old HP is not fully compatible with that :/ so, if there will be again something like "Fedora25 bug", I'm ready to switch the desktop environment to see is it works correctly on the other desktop ?

Rawhide is even more pain in the ass sometimes, then not-even-alpha Fedora release.

Photorec, maybe? And yes, it’s scary. I lost all my backups last year.

ERROR: S client not available

yum is deprecated :/ and the yumex / yumex-dnf is not available for Fedora27

I have 4 desktops installed.... with Fedora25 I had a problems, so I just moved back to Fedora24. I bought a new HDD and installed Fedora27 Security LAB, installed MATE desktop, because I like it, its a gnome2 feeling.. but it seems buggy, or my few years old HP is not fully compatible with that :/ so, if there will be again something like "Fedora25 bug", I'm ready to switch the desktop environment to see is it works correctly on the other desktop ?

Fedora 24 & 25 are no longer supported. You should use 26 or 27.

yum is deprecated :/ and the yumex / yumex-dnf is not available for Fedora27

Dnfdragora

yes, the good rawhide ? I wanted to install once, but my Fedora24 was worked correctly

Photorec, maybe? And yes, it’s scary. I lost all my backups last year.

I'm using Fedora27 on this new HDD, but on my old I'm still keeping Fedora24 (if something happens, and that was work correctly, and I have fixed the krack wi-fi bug, even if there is no fixed package)

I have 4 desktops installed.... with Fedora25 I had a problems, so I just moved back to Fedora24. I bought a new HDD and installed Fedora27 Security LAB, installed MATE desktop, because I like it, its a gnome2 feeling.. but it seems buggy, or my few years old HP is not fully compatible with that :/ so, if there will be again something like "Fedora25 bug", I'm ready to switch the desktop environment to see is it works correctly on the other desktop ?

gnome 3 works fine on 1-core atom (eee pc), with extensions and vithout visual effects, think about it

but i use lxqt bc its compact

I'm using Fedora27 on this new HDD, but on my old I'm still keeping Fedora24 (if something happens, and that was work correctly, and I have fixed the krack wi-fi bug, even if there is no fixed package)

You’re replying to the wrong message. ?

I have 4 desktops installed.... with Fedora25 I had a problems, so I just moved back to Fedora24. I bought a new HDD and installed Fedora27 Security LAB, installed MATE desktop, because I like it, its a gnome2 feeling.. but it seems buggy, or my few years old HP is not fully compatible with that :/ so, if there will be again something like "Fedora25 bug", I'm ready to switch the desktop environment to see is it works correctly on the other desktop ?

Dont install the security spin for an all-purpose os.

And if you liked gnome 2 install the gnome-classic package. And no, dnf errors arent caused by gnome.

And if you liked gnome 2 install the gnome-classic package. And no, dnf errors arent caused by gnome.

is it still avalible? wau...

I don't really like gnome3, mate is a gnome2 fork.. I think there was a wayland bug in Fedora25, on the other laptop it worked well. when Fedora26 has released, I said to my wife to upgrade it, and she did ?

I don't really like gnome3, mate is a gnome2 fork.. I think there was a wayland bug in Fedora25, on the other laptop it worked well. when Fedora26 has released, I said to my wife to upgrade it, and she did ?

But those are deprecated. Why do you keep using them?

is it still avalible? wau...

Not in Fedora.... Mate is gtk3 now.

Not in Fedora.... Mate is gtk3 now.

i thought mate forked gnome 2 bc of gtk3 new features

Yes

Actually no

They forked Gnome 2 because they didn’t like Gnome 3

Now Mate is basing their desktop on gtk3 but keeping the same appearing and workflow.

if you like gtk but dont like gnome 3 — just use xfce

i thought mate forked gnome 2 bc of gtk3 new features

It wasn’t gtk3 features, it was the way the desktop works.

if you like gtk but dont like gnome 3 — just use xfce

I personally do on my netbook. But it’s not as actively developed as others.

so xfce is out of date de?

No. Just not as complete as other desktops.

sounds sad, i liked it

E.g.: It has no tools to change times/dates or time zones.

is it still avalible? wau...

Its not, its an addon collection that makes it look like it

What do you think about isolating bad sectors on a partition? Doable or should avoid It and get a new unit

What do you think about isolating bad sectors on a partition? Doable or should avoid It and get a new unit

hdd or ssd?