jaypatelani (IRC): i think linux containers is what you are asking about?

jaypatelani (IRC): OpenBSD also have started with vmm but not sure how it performs on live VPS.. also look around documents i dont think you will require seperate jails task you want to achieve

jaypatelani (IRC): extor: httpd on OpenBSD comes chrooted ..

extor (IRC): Oh so is openBSD taking an innovative, proactive approach towards this?

jaypatelani (IRC): i think NetBSD has that too but i am not sure..

jaypatelani (IRC): extor: yup

jaypatelani (IRC): all BSDs are :D

<b>extor (IRC):</b> It's just that some of these wordpress plugins have a reputation of just being taken over entirely. But then again they have a lot of features. Hard choice.

<b>aaron:</b> The lazy Linux configuration is just a flat setup with a bunch of users created. You could step up to either chroots or containers in Linux (chroot or jails in BSD), but they're heavier on disk usage.

<b>aaron:</b> All of the platforms let you go to VMs, but those are way heavier in terms of disk usage, and they're more of a strain on the CPU.

aaron: You can copy your user setup to BSD one for one, but that's just barely secure on either platform. (I'll assume that cpanel still maintains that feature on BSDs?)

Extor, why not to look at Docker?

You can have docker instances for old PHP

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well, 100% of my LAN now sits behind Tor

Welcome BJ to BSD , This group is about Berkeley Software Distributions BSD family operating systems. @usebsd

well, 100% of my LAN now sits behind Tor

Oh hey lattera, didn't expect to see you here

Welcome BJ to BSD , This group is about Berkeley Software Distributions BSD family operating systems. @usebsd

Thanks...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HAMMER2-DFly-Stabilizing

I have another group about systems *BSD, in principle it is Spanish speaking, but English speaking people are also welcome :) https://t.me/sistemasbsd

I have another group about systems *BSD, in principle it is Spanish speaking, but English speaking people are also welcome :) https://t.me/sistemasbsd

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BSD Operating Systems Group Group dedicated to talk about all of the systems, *BSD. Systems *BSD more well known: * Focused mainly on servers (although you can use desktop): FreeBSD: www.freebsd.org NetBSD: www.netbsd.org OpenBSD: www.openbsd.org DragonFly BSD: www.dragonflybsd.org HardenedBSD: hardenedbsd.org * For firewall, router or NAS: Pfsense: www.pfsense.org Securityrouter: securityrouter.org FreeNAS: www.freenas.org Opensense: opnsense.org * For desktop: TrueOS: www.trueos.org GhostBSD: www.ghostbsd.org * For specific hardware: RaspBSD: raspbsd.org ? STANDARDS: 1.- The lack of respect towards any member of the group will not be allowed under no condition, respect is the most important. 2.- It will allow to speak about issues not always related, and when it is not in excess, this rule will be especially tolerant of talks on technology. 3.- This group is for chat about systems, *BSD and of course to help each of us in any doubt we may have, even so, think that no one is obliged to solve your doubt, there is no official support so that you can not demand anything. ❗️NOTE: Matrix room id : #bsd:matrix.org ❗️NOTE: If you want to add someone to the group, you can do so with the following link: https://t.me/usebsd ❗️NOTE: If you are concerned by the former "scandal" of backdoors in OpenBSD, please read a summary of what really went on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Alleged_FBI_backdoor_investigated Official forum for freebsd (in English): https://forums.freebsd.org/ Spanish-speaking group dedicated to FreeBSD: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAD8egc5COV-2kBfKDA Forum to talk about any BSD system (in English): http://unitedbsd.com Blog speaking about freebsd: http://freebsd.mx/ Enjoy the group!

Can you include my bsd telegram group in the list? @ThisBoyisGeek

this https://t.me/sistemasbsd

Yup?

BSD Operating Systems Group Group dedicated to talk about all of the systems, *BSD. Systems *BSD more well known: * Focused mainly on servers (although you can use desktop): FreeBSD: www.freebsd.org NetBSD: www.netbsd.org OpenBSD: www.openbsd.org DragonFly BSD: www.dragonflybsd.org HardenedBSD: hardenedbsd.org * For firewall, router or NAS: Pfsense: www.pfsense.org Securityrouter: securityrouter.org FreeNAS: www.freenas.org Opensense: opnsense.org * For desktop: TrueOS: www.trueos.org GhostBSD: www.ghostbsd.org * For specific hardware: RaspBSD: raspbsd.org ? STANDARDS: 1.- The lack of respect towards any member of the group will not be allowed under no condition, respect is the most important. 2.- It will allow to speak about issues not always related, and when it is not in excess, this rule will be especially tolerant of talks on technology. 3.- This group is for chat about systems, *BSD and of course to help each of us in any doubt we may have, even so, think that no one is obliged to solve your doubt, there is no official support so that you can not demand anything. ❗️NOTE: Matrix room id : #bsd:matrix.org ❗️NOTE: If you want to add someone to the group, you can do so with the following link: https://t.me/usebsd ❗️NOTE: If you are concerned by the former "scandal" of backdoors in OpenBSD, please read a summary of what really went on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Alleged_FBI_backdoor_investigated Official forum for freebsd (in English): https://forums.freebsd.org/ Spanish-speaking group dedicated to FreeBSD: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAD8egc5COV-2kBfKDA Spanish-speaking group dedicated to BSD : https://t.me/sistemasbsd Forum to talk about any BSD system (in English): http://unitedbsd.com Blog speaking about freebsd: http://freebsd.mx/ Enjoy the group!

@Lain_Iwakura done ?

:)

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HAMMER2-DFly-Stabilizing

Phoronix covering HAMMER2? That's awesome!

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<b>aaron:</b> Newnix (Telegram): Phoronix covers most of the big BSD stuff. The comments just become very strange license bashing chains supported by juvenile name calling.

Jaypatelani: aaron: +1

any of you guys use adb within BSD?

BSD Operating Systems Group Group dedicated to talk about all of the systems, *BSD. Systems *BSD more well known: * Focused mainly on servers (although you can use desktop): FreeBSD: www.freebsd.org NetBSD: www.netbsd.org OpenBSD: www.openbsd.org DragonFly BSD: www.dragonflybsd.org HardenedBSD: hardenedbsd.org * For firewall, router or NAS: Pfsense: www.pfsense.org Securityrouter: securityrouter.org FreeNAS: www.freenas.org Opensense: opnsense.org * For desktop: TrueOS: www.trueos.org GhostBSD: www.ghostbsd.org * For specific hardware: RaspBSD: raspbsd.org ? STANDARDS: 1.- The lack of respect towards any member of the group will not be allowed under no condition, respect is the most important. 2.- It will allow to speak about issues not always related, and when it is not in excess, this rule will be especially tolerant of talks on technology. 3.- This group is for chat about systems, *BSD and of course to help each of us in any doubt we may have, even so, think that no one is obliged to solve your doubt, there is no official support so that you can not demand anything. ❗️NOTE: Matrix room id : #bsd:matrix.org ❗️NOTE: If you want to add someone to the group, you can do so with the following link: https://t.me/usebsd ❗️NOTE: If you are concerned by the former "scandal" of backdoors in OpenBSD, please read a summary of what really went on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Alleged_FBI_backdoor_investigated Official forum for freebsd (in English): https://forums.freebsd.org/ Spanish-speaking group dedicated to FreeBSD: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAD8egc5COV-2kBfKDA Forum to talk about any BSD system (in English): http://unitedbsd.com Blog speaking about freebsd: http://freebsd.mx/ Enjoy the group!

Spanish speaking group dedicated to freebsd is dead or bad link

BSD Operating Systems Group Group dedicated to talk about all of the systems, *BSD. Systems *BSD more well known: * Focused mainly on servers (although you can use desktop): FreeBSD: www.freebsd.org NetBSD: www.netbsd.org OpenBSD: www.openbsd.org DragonFly BSD: www.dragonflybsd.org HardenedBSD: hardenedbsd.org * For firewall, router or NAS: Pfsense: www.pfsense.org Securityrouter: securityrouter.org FreeNAS: www.freenas.org Opensense: opnsense.org * For desktop: TrueOS: www.trueos.org GhostBSD: www.ghostbsd.org * For specific hardware: RaspBSD: raspbsd.org ? STANDARDS: 1.- The lack of respect towards any member of the group will not be allowed under no condition, respect is the most important. 2.- It will allow to speak about issues not always related, and when it is not in excess, this rule will be especially tolerant of talks on technology. 3.- This group is for chat about systems, *BSD and of course to help each of us in any doubt we may have, even so, think that no one is obliged to solve your doubt, there is no official support so that you can not demand anything. ❗️NOTE: Matrix room id : #bsd:matrix.org ❗️NOTE: If you want to add someone to the group, you can do so with the following link: https://t.me/usebsd ❗️NOTE: If you are concerned by the former "scandal" of backdoors in OpenBSD, please read a summary of what really went on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Alleged_FBI_backdoor_investigated Official forum for freebsd (in English): https://forums.freebsd.org/ Spanish-speaking group dedicated to BSD : https://t.me/sistemasbsd Forum to talk about any BSD system (in English): http://unitedbsd.com Blog speaking about freebsd: http://freebsd.mx/ Enjoy the group!

Spanish speaking group dedicated to freebsd is dead or bad link

Done ?

<b>aaron:</b> That change notification does not look good at all on matrix.

<b>aaron:</b> In fact, the way reply chains seem to be handled on the telegram bridge does not look good at all.

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Jaypatelani: Yup it shows expanded message

Spanish speaking group dedicated to freebsd is dead or bad link

now is this link https://t.me/joinchat/ADZTRT8egc78C0wQ5wgWGg

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You guys ever get a slow download rate within FreeBSD?

I get like 1/2 to 1/3 of the rate I get in Arch Linux

Is Mirror closer to your location?

You guys ever get a slow download rate within FreeBSD?

But with pkg? Or in general?

You guys ever get a slow download rate within FreeBSD?

Yeah i think the same

Freebsd seems a bit slow while installing

But. Think about in freebsd u have a repo. Maybe if u change the repo to an other more closer to you can go faster

pkg is slow

because pkg is more newer that linux package managers

<b>aaron:</b> Lain Iwakura (Telegram): pkg is faster than most Linux package managers. The main mirror is just overloaded or throttled.

<b>aaron:</b> Lain Iwakura (Telegram): pkg is faster than most Linux package managers. The main mirror is just overloaded or throttled.

Pkg is still not as mature as apt or dnf

<b>aaron:</b> Lain Iwakura (Telegram): That doesn't make it slower. And it's more mature than dnf. Dnf is a replacement for yum. And even Debian replaced apt-get with apt, which I believe is newer than pkg.

<b>aaron:</b> I think the timeline is pkg-add > apt-get > yum > pkg (pkg-ng) > apt > dnf. Someone want to wiki those all to confirm my memory of dates?

aaron: (Linux is on their third generation here, while FreeBSD is on it's second.)

Idk

Netbsd made pkgsrc porting from freebsd

On October 3rd 1997, the pkgsrc software management system was created by Alistair Crooks and Hubert Feyrer. 

For me is the best installer i've seen

It has 20 years

<b>aaron:</b> Old != better. Old == old.

Not's for years

Pkgsrc can compile and test ur packages. If test fails the packet will be rejected

<b>aaron:</b> Age and quality are not correlated. Plenty of old and new garbage code.

U can put a local path and a url path together and pkgsrc will find on all paths

Well pkgin is good pkg installer based off pkgsrc but speed depends on work station ,Mirror and network speed

Btw pkgsrc is too big

<b>aaron:</b> And isn't pkgsrc just the ports system? Pkgin is much newer, and the equivalent to pkg-ng.

I need look better about pkgsrc

Have a lot of features and diferent configurations

And if u use it without configure nothing dependences will be installed but no accesible

If u install python as dependence u can put python and nothing happens

U can do pkg add python and will work

<b>aaron:</b> That's true of any package manager. You need a make depends in there.

<b>aaron:</b> Almost all package managers expose some sort of --no-deps flag.

I need read a lot. Pkgsrc is a big tool

I want try it on freebsd and on linux and see how works

Must work fine

But. On linux... will be hard i guess

Must work fine

Yup

UWM university uses pkgsrc on centos

Why they do that?

Why they do that?

https://uwm.edu/hpc/software-management/

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pkgsrc is great, it's even used on Illumos systems, and DragonFly BSD used to have their packages managed through it. Some of their older docs still refer to using it, lol.

<b>aaron:</b> .:VMS:. ? (Telegram): I've used pkgsrc and pkgin on Linux and OSX. It works fine, like you'd expect.

<b>aaron:</b> .:VMS:. ? (Telegram): It's rather pointless to use on FreeBSD (in my opinion), as FreeBSD ports is definitely an equal to pkgsrc.

aaron: (I would assume it works just fine though. It's not magic, but it may be missing some patches that are in the FreeBSD ports repo.)

<b>aaron:</b> .:VMS:. ? (Telegram): It's rather pointless to use on FreeBSD (in my opinion), as FreeBSD ports is definitely an equal to pkgsrc.

Somebody pls

Fix