vms: so

vms: u can say hardenedbsd is more secure than openbsd?

<b>aaron:</b> Depends on who you ask. They're still built on top of FreeBSD.

vms: yeah, but like ubuntu can make an insecure version of debian hardenedbsd can make a secure one from freebsd

vms: xD

vms: anyway as every time u can hear secure comes from user

vms: security*

all the different BSDs have different uses

vms: qubeos seems a good choice too

aaron: OpenBSD managed to make a secure FreeBSD. ;)

it's hard to say that one is better than the other

vms: openbsd came from netbsd

vms: but seems hardenedbsd have same goal of openbsd

aaron: QubeOS is just Linux on xen. (Well, I say just, but they put a lot of hard work into that.)

aaron: And where did NetBSD come from? ;)

vms: i thought came from freebsd

vms: but nope

vms: netbsd is the first

vms: and come from bsd4

vms: but, rewrited with bsd-lite?

vms: BSDLite 4.3

<b>aaron:</b> Oh, I didn't realize both forked off 386BSD. I thought Net popped off Free.

vms: yeah me too

vms: but few days ago i saw it

vms: and it was first than freebsd

vms: it haves my age xD

vms: 24 years

vms: my favourite bsd is netbsd

vms: netbsd made me discover bsd xD

vms: i saw that https://www.netbsd.org/ports/ and i've said to me, if i can dominate this distro i can dominate all architectures

vms: that's why i came to bsd world

vms: but netbsd can't run on my desktop xDD so i'm installing hardenedbsd

lemme know if you have issues

you'll probably want/need to get familiar with secadm

vms: sure, i will cry here

vms: xD

take a look at chapter 14 of the HardenedBSD Handbook

vms: ok

minger (IRC): hey

minger (IRC): any freebsd users here?

minger (IRC): specificly freebsd users using ufs

vms: u mean wiki shawn

vms: cause handbook nope

vms: he HardenedBSD Handbook is under heavy and active development.

vms: serves freebsd handbook

minger (IRC): my freebsd machine is locking up and going very slowly when torrenting stuff are there some kernel tunables i can change to help with this

vms: lol nvm xD

vms: so u need i test secadm?

vms: secadm fucks everything and i need list software on secrules to let that software use the net?

vms: pax { path: "/usr/local/bin/firefox", pageexec : false, mprotect: false,

vms: sounds nice

vms: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSEPGG_10.5.0/com.ibm.db2.luw.admin.sec.doc/doc/c0021054.html

vms: why not's popular software?

<b>vms:</b> secadm Authors: Shawn Webb shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org, Brian Salcedo brian.salcedo@hardenedbsd.org

vms: if u're the author why there are doc on ibm?

vms: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSEPEK_10.0.0/seca/src/tpc/db2z_secadmauthority.html

wrong secadm

vms: xD

vms: doesn't have same features?

https://hardenedbsd.org/~shawn/hbsd_handbook/book.html#hardenedbsd-secadm <- right secadm

<b>vms:</b> > > > BSD-11-STABLE-v1100048.2-amd64-memstick.img > /home/vms/hardenedbsd.img < % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 95 801M 95 767M 0 0 147k 0 1:32:36 1:28:38 0:03:58 150k

vms: 3 mins xD

vms: Seems

vms: All is going fine

vms: Where is Xorg ?

vms: Hardenedbsd seems more like a metapackage than a distro

vms: But it's nice. Will be better.choice freebsd as a desktop than openbsd

vms: Anyway i'm waiting for one ram module to take other pc and use netbsd ?

vms: Hardenedbsd remembers me to blackarch xD

vms: Why i can't install chromium?

vms: Not's on repo

Jay: The Librem 5: Your Ultimate GNU/Linux FLOSS Smartphone – nixCraft https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/the-librem-5-your-ultimate-gnulinux-floss-smartphone/

Well we might see BSD phones too ?

vms: https://halium.org/

<b>Jaypatelani:</b> @vms:matrix.org: http://www.dinobsd.com

vms: and dephora os

vms: came from netbsd, but is dead i guess

Jaypatelani: EdgeBSD is also there

Jaypatelani: But Purism focus more on Hardware side

vms: https://github.com/dinobsd/DinoBSD

vms: XDDDDDD

vms: dinobsd is nothing

Jaypatelani: ?

vms: i prefer the old logo from netbsd

vms: that was the logo, but they've changed to a flag later

vms: The old logo of The NetBSD Foundation was created by Shawn Mueller in 1994, it was replaced by the new "flag" image created by Grant Bissett in 2004.

vms: http://web.archive.org/web/20161201075907/http://www.netbsd.org/Goals/

vms: Jay how can i join an irc from a riot room? i'm doing something wrong

<b>Jaypatelani:</b> > > Jay how can i join an irc from a riot room? i'm doing something wrong > Our connected IRC room is #unitedbsd on Freenode

Jaypatelani: So if you are on Freenode you can type in #unitedbsd to get it linked here

vms: Format: '!join irc.example.com #channel [key]'

vms: So

vms: !join irc.freenode.org #unitedbsd

vms: And what's the key?

Jaypatelani: Key must be your freenode password if required ..