But idk if there are some differences with tsch

Tcsh*

<b>aaron:</b> Nah, pipes work fine in csh/tcsh.

Nice

Same way to download files with curl

Curl www.downloadthisfile.com > thefile.file

Works with all files. Just name it with properly .extension

Hola

am new here

Hola @smoothier

Hola xD

I've never installed BSD before, am Linuxian, I just wanna know the opinion of people who are familiar with BSD

I have some questions if you don't mind

Sure just ask

Well for the people who used Linux then swtiched to BSD, which one you think is best? and why?

Depends

If u don't wanna learn just stay on linux

@smoothier as using BSD and linux for sysadmin work . I find BSDs are sane and easy to use and less breaking and good documentation

If u don't wanna learn just stay on linux

I am an advanced user on Linux

Then jump to bsd

and I want to get more adavanced in Unix systems

What u need

Desktop or server?

For what u want that OS?

Desktop or server?

Both, am computer sec consultant

So. If u want take some multimedia support

Both, am computer sec consultant

You will enjoy OpenBSD :)

I guess as a desktop is a best choice freebsd but. Openbsd is nice too

Well 3 bsd are nice open net and freebsd but u have more choices

Like dragonflybsd trueos etc

Hardenedbsd

DragonflyBSD

never heard about it before

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is there any distribution for securty or so?

is there any distribution for securty or so?

Sure

The Desktop evironment is so classical though

Openbsd

@smoothier OpenBSD and hardenedsd are security focused

But... what kind of security

Are talking about distro like kali linux?

I do some penetration testing for companies

so I use every aspect related to sec

from reconnaissance to crypto to forensics etc

Well idk about pentesting but openbsd have deffensive security idk about offensive scripts and more shit

For crypto openbsd have good software

Well idk about pentesting but openbsd have deffensive security idk about offensive scripts and more shit

Well if they are compatible with Linux scripts it's okay, though many scripts are written in unviersal scripting languages like Python and Ruby

Sure u have those languages on bsd and anyway u can use linux software like wine

Sure u have those languages on bsd and anyway u can use linux software like wine

many interpreters are available on multi OS's including BSD so that will not be a big problem

Linux emulation

u have Linux Emulation?

3 bsd have it

I mean like wine for Windows

OpenBSD don't have it ..

Idk about others

For reducing attack vectors

OpenBSD don't have it ..

Sure?

Yup

Oh

I mean like wine for Windows

Yeah u can use wine

And try it and say if u can play better

I need a complete and a strong OS, I believe BSD is one of the best but the problem is still the support of some programs for me

https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2025/DEF%20CON%2025%20presentations/DEFCON-25-Ilja-van-Sprundel-BSD-Kern-Vulns.pdf

I need a complete and a strong OS, I believe BSD is one of the best but the problem is still the support of some programs for me

So go to freebsd

Or trueos (more friendly i guess) but don't tried

Wine works better with Freev

*FreeBSD

Hmm thank u guys

I will document more and see

Just ask if u need something

Just ask if u need something

Thank you very much

that actuallly helps :)

:)

Jaypatelani: BSDs this year getting lot of attention from linux users ;)

<b>aaron:</b> Sneaky Head (Telegram): Don't worry about how the desktop looks. You can install all the usual ones, XFCE, KDE, Gnome, etc.

Jaypatelani: Welcome bambs

<b>aaron:</b> Sneaky Head (Telegram): And generally, any open source program will run/recompile fine on all the BSDs. The only thing you need to watch out for are some of those network analyzers that use kernel features. Some have been ported over, but I'm not in that field, so I don't know the exact state.

<b>aaron:</b> Sneaky Head (Telegram): Don't worry about how the desktop looks. You can install all the usual ones, XFCE, KDE, Gnome, etc.

That looks better, even if am more oriented to technical aspectes but sometimes design is good too, it's a little break for soul ;)

aaron: (I like OpenBSD as a desktop environment, but it doesn't have flash support, and it's SMP scaling is behind the others, so it's simply not as fast.)

<b>aaron:</b> Sneaky Head (Telegram): And generally, any open source program will run/recompile fine on all the BSDs. The only thing you need to watch out for are some of those network analyzers that use kernel features. Some have been ported over, but I'm not in that field, so I don't know the exact state.

Yea, that's what's great about openSource

<b>aaron:</b> I always just install XFCE or Lumina. BSD/Linux, doesn't matter. But some people prefer KDE/Gnome, and they're available.

I love mate and cinnamon actually but Gnome is also fine for me

Jaypatelani: Mate is there. Cinnamon I am not sure

Jaypatelani: Mate is there. Cinnamon I am not sure

I will see, we are developers eventhough ;)

<b>aaron:</b> I've been moving to QT, so I'm not sure the state of the GTK DEs anymore, but a quick Google will turn that up for you.

Jay

What about openbsd as a desktop?

I'm going to kill slackware and reinstall freebsd but i like openbsd

Jaypatelani: .:VMS:. (Telegram): I have been using OpenBSD as desktop on my laptop for over a year

Jaypatelani: It worked for me.. Check with repo for your needs

And really only i use pc for learn about computers and hear music

I've tried openbsd and liked it a lot

Jaypatelani: ?

More than freebsd but i've jumped to freebsd cause all say it's better choice as a desktop

<b>Jaypatelani:</b> I was hooked to OpenBSD.. Mainly because of qbit 's snap tool for easy using for my needs .. Then i followed release to release

I will install openbsd