Alessandro
I love this GSoC period, every year it means really big improvements to ReactOS
Alessandro
Syzkaller porting is an amazing thing
Stas'M
I love this GSoC period, every year it means really big improvements to ReactOS
Improvements are good, but it's also important to get more regular contributors/developers into the project
Alessandro
Of course. Didn't some GSoC students become regular contributors in the previous years?
Stas'M
GSoC sometimes good at that, yes
Stas'M
not always, but when it happens, we usually get very good long-time devs 🙂
Alessandro
That's great
Alessandro
I'd love to be of more help in this, but I have really limited knowledge in low-level development
Alessandro
I'm mainly a Golang developer at the moment ^^
Alessandro
But I'm following the project since years and I love it :)
Mike
So, I'm going to create reactos French chat! Someone interested in getting involved?
Alessandro
let's try :)
Mike
Btw, i just read a news on apple leaving Intel CPUs. Part of the apple market share is due to windows compatibility now. I wonder if they'll do something to emulate x86-64 for windows apps (I don't think they'll use ros, sadly)
Shy
Unless they go back to the PowerPC architecture
Mike
No, they'll go to arm. I hope ryzen, but it'll never happen
Alessandro
it seems they're going to launch an ARM-based series, not sure if all MACs will be ARM
Alessandro
and honestly I doubt
static
static
it seems they're going to launch an ARM-based series, not sure if all MACs will be ARM
At first the lower-level notebooks will be updated, since ARM is cheaper and more power-efficient.
Mark
So what is this with people wanting to create a localized community?
Mark
I still don't understand why you would want to splinter off with a tiny part of a community to create a sub-culture
Mark
Effectively isolating yourself
Stas'M
https://twitter.com/x86corez/status/1270484109194821634
Julen
I admire your work so much
Stas'M
Not my work, it's power of genedisean 🙂 (he's not in Telegram)
Julen
Your can be plural xDD
Julen
I know is from him.
Julen
But I'm talking in general.
Nahuel
https://twitter.com/x86corez/status/1270484109194821634
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4-MmsLKRDw
✝️ ☺️🌞 HD Scania
https://twitter.com/x86corez/status/1270484109194821634
Linux-amd64 host on ROS guest?
Mike
So what is this with people wanting to create a localized community?
Just to help people interested in reactos but that don't/can't speak English well
Mike
I still don't understand why you would want to splinter off with a tiny part of a community to create a sub-culture
Not going to do this. IMHO, local chats do not splinter the main one, which is still the first reference level. I don't think about it as isolating, but as spreading. The more people know reactos, the better
Alejandro Jeditobe
done
Олександр
Stas'M
https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/5250975/A-basic-icon-editor-running-on-ReactOS
Mark
upvote :D
Alessandro
Wow!
Sunil
Probably you will be able to run ARM64 Windows
Is any work being done on a RosBE ARM64 toolchain and ARM64 ReactOS compilable using GCC?
static
Is any work being done on a RosBE ARM64 toolchain and ARM64 ReactOS compilable using GCC?
It probably depends on MinGW
Sunil
I didn't ask on IRC or Mattermost, because I wasn't sure about any such plans, but I run ReactOS 32-bit x86 in QEMU on an ARM64 Debian Linux host. Running an ARM64 ReactOS under QEMU/KVM or even on bare metal would give a lot better performance for the OS itself at least
Victor
We have no people working on ARM builds
Jose
Raspberry Pi 3 has virtualization support?
Sunil
Under Raspbian?
Under Debian Sid running on my Orange Pi Win Plus, as I built u-boot, the kernel and the OS image myself
Jose
Would be interesting to have ReactOS in emulation mode under raspbian
Sunil
Raspberry Pi 3 has virtualization support?
I don't know about that, but I have KVM support on my hardware, yes
Jose
I havent Orange Pi, only Raspberry Pi 3B+ I can test if it have support for KVM (is not.only for Intel?) If so i could run virt-manager and install ReactOS.
Jose
Thanks
Mike
https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/45847/does-the-rpi-support-hardware-virtualization google gave me this, idk if it is useful
Mike
https://blog.cloudkernels.net/posts/rpi4-64bit-virt/ and this too
Sunil
I havent Orange Pi, only Raspberry Pi 3B+ I can test if it have support for KVM (is not.only for Intel?) If so i could run virt-manager and install ReactOS.
I run it in emulation mode now using qemu-system-x86, which is going to be rather slow on relatively slow ARM hardware. But yes, a hypothetical ARM64 ReactOS should also run on your Raspberry Pi 3B+ or newer.
Julio Lopez
Mike
i'm really waiting for raspberry pi 5. if it has the same improvement that the 4 has on the 3, it'll really be a usable desktop environment soon
Stas'M
https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/45847/does-the-rpi-support-hardware-virtualization google gave me this, idk if it is useful
tl;dr - RPi supports KVM virtualization as well
Stas'M
I didn't ask on IRC or Mattermost, because I wasn't sure about any such plans, but I run ReactOS 32-bit x86 in QEMU on an ARM64 Debian Linux host. Running an ARM64 ReactOS under QEMU/KVM or even on bare metal would give a lot better performance for the OS itself at least
Feel free to work on porting ReactOS to ARM and/or ARM64
Stas'M
Any information you will need is here: https://reactos.org/wiki/ARM_Port
Sunil
Feel free to work on porting ReactOS to ARM and/or ARM64
What about the toolchain? Is it hard to get RosBE ported and built for another target?
Stas'M
What about the toolchain? Is it hard to get RosBE ported and built for another target?
Forget about GCC, use MSVC ARM32/ARM64 compiler
Stas'M
of course with RosBE
Sunil
Forget about GCC, use MSVC ARM32/ARM64 compiler
Why, though? I don't have Windows anymore, although I could install the latest version in QEMU/KVM, if it was absolutely necessary
Stas'M
Why, though? I don't have Windows anymore, although I could install the latest version in QEMU/KVM, if it was absolutely necessary
Because it will cost you less hours days of work
Sunil
Can you download MSVC separately from Visual Studio?
Sunil
Because it will cost you less hours days of work
I understand, but I guess I will try to get GCC to work first anyway. Otherwise I can always ask the GCC or MingW people to help out. As a last resort I will use MSVC, but let me try in other ways first.
Stas'M
Alright then
Andrew
static
I'd think about ARM64/UEFI instead of old 32-bit ARM.
Stas'M
I'd think about ARM64/UEFI instead of old 32-bit ARM.
You're thinking in right direction, but ARMv7 can have UEFI as well
static
You're thinking in right direction, but ARMv7 can have UEFI as well
Is ARMv7 supported by WoA?
static
But by Desktop Windows?
static
Ah nice! 👍
Stas'M
Internal builds 😏