Can a minimal Linux be run within Windows but sharing the hardware and be like running natively

that would be a VM

Ok, what would a non-VM implementation of Linux and ReactOS running at the same time be like? Imagine the reactOS NT kernel and the Linux kernel along with the other stuff that goes with them running at the same time as equals and able to share hardware and messages like it's one system

non-VM would involve a syscall translation table like WSL1 tried

I feel like if it could be worked out, some regular Linux users might use it til it could hold its own as a Windows work-alike, and then have more reason to use it if you know that even if we can't get a libre Windows implementation of something we need, we can at least get the Linux implementation of it

What would be really cool is if there could be a fully libre OS that had Windows, Linux, and Android capability without using much ram

At least Android is Linux, so there isn't much gap there :P

Yeah, I guess, although I still can't run many Linux programs on Android or any Android apps on Linux, although I've heard there are a couple efforts to get Android apps running on Linux

things have been around since the earliest days of Android

Yeah, I guess, although I still can't run many Linux programs on Android or any Android apps on Linux, although I've heard there are a couple efforts to get Android apps running on Linux

Supposedly Google's chromeOS has managed it

I haven't tried it

Dalvik programs run pretty easily on desktop Linux, and by reimplementing native libraries, so can others (there is rather significant efforts to keep Minecraft Android running on desktopp)

as for the other way around, chroot isn't broken and has worked since forever too :P

I installed anbox once before and couldn't figure out how to use it or whether it was even working

the benefits here being that Android literally is Linux, with an atypical userland.

ReactOS and Linux have no such relation

Yeah, I guess

Doesn't the NT kernel have some unix-like subsystem or something like that?

not part of the kernel. The kernel can run any subsystem (which are just driver modules)

Win32 tends to be the "default" that is always there

early WinNT did include a posix subsystem, later removed. Commercial product Interix did it better, got bought by Microsoft, poorly maintained through the years, last official version was for Vista and support totally removed in W8

any chance Microsoft might ever open source win16 or win32?

in general the cygwin project has always been much more mature and ran stuff people actually wanted

early WinNT did include a posix subsystem, later removed. Commercial product Interix did it better, got bought by Microsoft, poorly maintained through the years, last official version was for Vista and support totally removed in W8

Dang

Win16... maybe. Hard to tell with them, much of Win32 was based on it and it's doubtful they'll ever release what they currently depend on

Don't they plan on stopping support of win32 at some point even though it'll probably break a whole lot of stuff

Nope

They would instantly kill all of Windows marketshare if they tried

Lol sounds nice

Do you think there will ever be a "year of the Linux desktop"?

There have been a few attempts with 8.x and 10 both to make versions that are locked down to the Windows Store only. Originally that meant Metro/UWP apps which do run on their own subsystem, and they're made for phones first... people don't like them. The store supports Win32 apps now, but there's hardly anything there. The versions of Windows that are locked down have never gone over well. That's just not how people expect to use Windows.

Do you think there will ever be a "year of the Linux desktop"?

sure. It was around 2001 for me.

sure. It was around 2001 for me.

I mean like for the general population

sure. It was around 2001 for me.

and I don't imagine the Linux gui and hardware support was very good back then

hardware support was already pretty solid for me back then

the GUI has definitely improved a lot

but I hated Windows XP so much... I switched. :P

really? XP is my favorite Windows

Especially for looks

I was coming from Windows 2000 and XP was the antithesis of everything that made 2k good

Slow, ugly, resource hog, unstable...

a couple of those were improved eventually with service packs and sheer hardware power increasing

I thought XP was beautiful

Win2k was definitely the best version of Windows ever made

Still do, last time I was looking thru screenshots of it

Win2k was definitely the best version of Windows ever made

Idk if I've ever seen it

I grew up on XP

I eventually numbed to Luna, but I never liked the default theme. At least you can get back the Win2k style, it's just not default.

the default XP theme reminded me of teletubbies and playdoh... not for a real OS for real work

I was a kid then though, it was fucking beautiful

Coulda used some red

http://toastytech.com/guis/w2k.html

peak windows imo

Win2k was definitely the best version of Windows ever made

QFT

With ROS being a Windows-like distro, how to get KDE Plasma or Kolibri shell ported to ROS?

Needs to get this packed for KDE Plasma icon themes👍

With ROS being a Windows-like distro, how to get KDE Plasma or Kolibri shell ported to ROS?

Just port it to Windows XP and you're done

has anyone ever told you you're talking a lot more nonsense than @LothaireLaBrebis does?

i mean lothaire talks some bullshit, but you're almost there taking the highscore

With ROS being a Windows-like distro, how to get KDE Plasma or Kolibri shell ported to ROS?

ReactOS isn't a "distro"

With ROS being a Windows-like distro, how to get KDE Plasma or Kolibri shell ported to ROS?

bruh

😳

I feel like if it could be worked out, some regular Linux users might use it til it could hold its own as a Windows work-alike, and then have more reason to use it if you know that even if we can't get a libre Windows implementation of something we need, we can at least get the Linux implementation of it

Have at it

ReactOS isn't a "distro"

Ikr, I hate when people call it a distro

Not as in, "it's linux" but that it's some kind of based OS

<hbelusca> for all linux fans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_huLzhCpqU

Any USB support builds yet?

Any USB support builds yet?

Use this method: https://reactos.org/wiki/Installing_ReactOS#USB-RAM_boot Applicable for 0.4.13-RC and later.

Tes

Welcome aboard !

Ikr, I hate when people call it a distro

It's basically a Windows clone, the fact it's on Distrowatch is weird. There are BSD stuff on that as well

It's basically a Windows clone, the fact it's on Distrowatch is weird. There are BSD stuff on that as well

It can't be there, but it can't be called a distro

It can't be there, but it can't be called a distro

Yup, it can't, having Linux implementation doesn't make it a Linux distro Maybe calling it a Windows distro fairs better, but still, the word open source clone is better

Yup, it can't, having Linux implementation doesn't make it a Linux distro Maybe calling it a Windows distro fairs better, but still, the word open source clone is better

Not even windows distro, just free windows clone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzR4ERrf6GM

ReactOS with 3D GPU acceleration hacks 🤪

ReactOS with 3D GPU acceleration hacks 🤪

Well... The hacks are (mostly): "changed some files to their win2k3sp2 counterparts" I appreciate to see that, it's really nice to know how to achieve this However it's still really sad to need to do so many work to get it running