Chungy
links has a DOS version? neat.
Camarada Gato
http://links.twibright.com/download.php
Anonymous
What is that?
Stas'M
What is that?
It's BSOD
Stas'M
Camarada Gato
What is that?
ReactOS is buggy even, developers themselves only recommend testing on virtual machine.
Camarada Gato
I recommend giving up ReactOS and testing Debian with LXDE or LXqt. And if you need a browser, most likely the links are in the Debian repositories, just give an apt install links as root.
Anonymous
But why the heck does winxp sp2 work flawless on this machine but mate not ... I will try to install any linux with lxde from USB tomorrow,
Anonymous
Hope it is possible to boot from USB any way
Camarada Gato
Hope it is possible to boot from USB any way
Because Mate requires at least 512 MB of RAM to work fine. Mate already eats almost all of those 256 MB
Camarada Gato
LXDE and LXqt work less than 100 MB, but I recommend having at least 256 MB for use with the least possible comfort.
Anonymous
ok, usb should be working using a workaround - now what disto? ...what are the choises
Anonymous
or shoudl i stay with debian
Camarada Gato
Debian is a more recommended distro, for having more people to help you with what is needed. But if you want other recommendations and maybe if you have problems to boot via USB, there is Void Linux, FreeBSD (which is not a Linux distribution, but is very similar to being unix-like), Alpine Linux. They are operating systems with which few are accustomed, but have installers with command line interface that work as give next>next.
Anonymous
I would really aprechiate a arch based as I use manjaro for years now & do not like the Debian based desktops - only for server-side; But anyway a 32 bit variant most important
Camarada Gato
So an Arch Linux with LXDE would be a good one, even though I believe that Arch Linux should not have drivers for stone age hardware.
Anonymous
So I think too
Anonymous
They dropped 32 bit support for long time as well
Anonymous
I'll try debian - but now happy dreams!
Camarada Gato
Unix-like operating systems that I'm sure support 32 bit Intel architecture: -Debian -NetBSD -Void Linux -FreeBSD -Gentoo
Camarada Gato
They dropped 32 bit support for long time as well
Maybe some of these will do. NetBSD is the Unix distro that supports most legacy thing.
Chungy
https://archlinux32.org/
Chungy
It's possible to still run Arch, but since a lot of its use comes from AUR (compiling), probably not a great choice for Pentium 3.
Chungy
Debian's going to be one of the best options for a distro that still supports 32-bit.
Chungy
Fedora still supports 32-bit too: https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/
Chungy
Fedora and Debian are both excellent options.
Anonymous
i'm amazed how often fedora gets overlooked
Chungy
Distros aren't really light- or heavy-weight on their own, it's default software packages that can be. Avoid GNOME, KDE, MATE for a 256MB RAM system.
Chungy
It should be possible to run all of them with a lot of swap, but that will be slooooooow
Chungy
i'm amazed how often fedora gets overlooked
Fedora has a rough history with pushing out releases without enough polish, and being viewed as a more developer-centric distro and not as user-friendly as Debian.
Anonymous
i've had no issues with roughness in the 1-2 years i've used it so far tbh
Anonymous
i think with debian you're more likely to have problems with everything being so outdated
Anonymous
Installing lxde now, let's see...
Stas'M
Installing lxde now, let's see...
This seems to be offtopic [warning 1]
Anonymous
Uhh staslin gonna warn :D - okay :)
Stas'M
Camarada Gato
Installing lxde now, let's see...
Other CLI Browser. w3m ❤️
Lev
FreeBSD master race
Mark
i'm amazed how often fedora gets overlooked
Most people don't want to use 300 DVDs to install an os
Chungy
Wut? Fedora doesn't do that
hacker12455
^
hacker12455
I installed Fedora myself before
Chungy
Some people think that about Debian (it has around 30 DVDs for everything in the repo), but it's still not even close to true there.
Camarada Gato
FreeBSD master race
I'm not a fan, but I would use it for applications like firewall, file server or trying to install on an old PC if Linux does not work well for driver reasons or something, even for being an option that can also be tried.
Jose
I use ReactOS virtualized under Devuan with kvm/virtio/qemu/virt-manager and it works ok. Using a light windows manager as jwm. ReactOS uses little resources 😃
Alejandro Jeditobe
ReactOS 0.4.13 will rock ;D
Anonymous
why are you using DVDs to install a modern desktop OS?
Mark
Because I last tried it 10 years ago
Anonymous
uuh i think things have changed a bit since then
Mark
Possibly
Chungy
That's a funny question to be asking in a ReactOS channel
Chungy
every major OS is distributed as 1 or more DVD images for installation. Linux and FreeBSD even generate their ISOs in such a way that they work whether you burn it to an actual DVD or cp disc.iso /dev/sdd where /dev/sdd is a USB drive.
Chungy
Windows is harder to get running from a USB drive but it isn't that bad either.
Chungy
ReactOS doesn't support USB though, so... :V
Chungy
Booting from DVD tends to be easier too, you don't normally have to hit any buttons to make it work :P
Camarada Gato
Windows is harder to get running from a USB drive but it isn't that bad either.
It is not difficult to run a Windows installation image on a USB device. The thing is what is a solid state or magnetic storage device, it can not be formatted as a DVD, because the Windows kernel is not meant to work that way. One thing is that it can be done, instead of writing an ISO directly (as it were in DD), you can mount an ISO and copy the files to the device already formatted in FAT32 or EXFAT. Of course, when finished copying, remove the device safely, otherwise it will corrupt and will go wrong.
Chungy
I've found it only works with formatting the USB drive as NTFS :P
Chungy
but yeah, that is more difficult than just cp disc.iso /dev/sdd as would with a Linux install xD
Chungy
and the only reason the Windows kernel "is not meant to work that way" is because its iso9660 driver cares about what kind of device a iso9660 file system is stored on. Linux's driver does not.
Jeff
which one is better? fat32 or btfs?
Chungy
I assume you meant btrfs, and better is highly subjective :P
Chungy
FAT32 should be far more stable, but btrfs has a lot more features too.
Jeff
yep, sorry for the typo
Chungy
FAT32 doesn't have a whole lot going for it in terms of features. With VFAT you get long file names, you get a read-only flag, and the modified, accessed, and creation time stamps. You also have to deal with a 4GiB file size limit
Chungy
btrfs comes from Linux as a sort of cheapo ZFS clone. Everything is checksummed, and especially (but not only) if you use multiple devices to store it, it has redundancy so any errors in either metadata or actual file data has a chance of being recovered. It has compression support, no effective file size limit, WinBtrfs supports the full set of NTFS attributes and ACLs on top of it (I don't know if ReactOS has any real support for them, though), it has modify, access, and change (not creation) time stamps.
Jeff
Yeah, despite the msg stub on booting, btrfs seems to be way better.
Jeff
Jeff
Great theme
Alejandro Jeditobe
0.4.13 will rock!
Eris
what kinda theme is that
Alejandro Jeditobe
It is new one
Alejandro Jeditobe
Inside of reactos
Alejandro Jeditobe
Nightly builds
Stas'M
Eris
seems dull and boring
Alejandro Jeditobe
Boring like Ilon Musk is boring?
Alejandro Jeditobe
He has very boring company