Secondly we don't like insults

Firstly we are a C/C++ group

he is the one who starts insulting me so while he keeps insulting me i will insult him

"Valve is an early adopter of MoltenVK. The company has been testing MoltenVK for the macOS version of Dota 2, and indications are extremely promising: the Vulkan-on-Metal version of the game has frame rates as much as 50 percent higher than the version using Apple's OpenGL stack. Apple's OpenGL drivers have long been criticized, both for their poor performance and for Apple's refusal to support the latest versions of the specification. The Dota 2 experience suggests that developers can reap big dividends by bypassing them. Further Reading Khronos unveils Vulkan: OpenGL built for modern systems The release is in response to demands from developers; they want a cross-platform API to maximize their reach but also need to be able to reach Apple's platforms. However, developers also told Khronos that they didn't want a fourth API to learn; rather, they hoped the company could repurpose some existing API to give them this reach. The identification of a universally portable subset of Vulkan, one that can be efficiently run on top of other GPU APIs, is the result. MoltenVK has been designed as a very thin layer. It has been deliberately designed to not perform any significant remapping or conversion of data and function calls, ensuring that its performance is predictable and consistent, and its overheads are low. A handful of Vulkan features aren't available, but overall the portable subset is substantial. The portable subset will also soon be able to target another platform: DirectX 12. Expected within the next few months, a similar translation layer is being developed that will enable Vulkan applications to use a DirectX 12 back-end. While Windows, unlike macOS, does have Vulkan drivers from GPU companies, applications sold through the Microsoft Store are only permitted to use DirectX. Already today, some Store applications use ANGLE—an implementation of OpenGL ES that runs on top of DirectX—so that their developers can use a cross-platform graphics API. The Vulkan layer will enable the same for software that uses the high performance, low-level GPU API."

stop insulting and continue talking

"Valve is an early adopter of MoltenVK. The company has been testing MoltenVK for the macOS version of Dota 2, and indications are extremely promising: the Vulkan-on-Metal version of the game has frame rates as much as 50 percent higher than the version using Apple's OpenGL stack. Apple's OpenGL drivers have long been criticized, both for their poor performance and for Apple's refusal to support the latest versions of the specification. The Dota 2 experience suggests that developers can reap big dividends by bypassing them. Further Reading Khronos unveils Vulkan: OpenGL built for modern systems The release is in response to demands from developers; they want a cross-platform API to maximize their reach but also need to be able to reach Apple's platforms. However, developers also told Khronos that they didn't want a fourth API to learn; rather, they hoped the company could repurpose some existing API to give them this reach. The identification of a universally portable subset of Vulkan, one that can be efficiently run on top of other GPU APIs, is the result. MoltenVK has been designed as a very thin layer. It has been deliberately designed to not perform any significant remapping or conversion of data and function calls, ensuring that its performance is predictable and consistent, and its overheads are low. A handful of Vulkan features aren't available, but overall the portable subset is substantial. The portable subset will also soon be able to target another platform: DirectX 12. Expected within the next few months, a similar translation layer is being developed that will enable Vulkan applications to use a DirectX 12 back-end. While Windows, unlike macOS, does have Vulkan drivers from GPU companies, applications sold through the Microsoft Store are only permitted to use DirectX. Already today, some Store applications use ANGLE—an implementation of OpenGL ES that runs on top of DirectX—so that their developers can use a cross-platform graphics API. The Vulkan layer will enable the same for software that uses the high performance, low-level GPU API."

nowhere in here says this is because vulkan was slower then direct x in fact it said the opposite it was because of lack of adoption in windows and mac markets they decided to do this

Stop insulting each other and go private to discuss Vulkan vs DirectX

why can we not continue vulkan and direct x here both are C/C++

it's not true since it doesn't change the syntax or anything

Insulting each other without a proper discussion

this is false because of the fact that merging 2 different graphics apis which is common for legacy code implemented in direct x already is a bitch and a slow down

it's because it's cheaper to maintain and you get better performances

mine was a proper discussion but how can you talk with someone that doesn't know anything, doesn't know english and is retarded?

If someone insults you, you don't insult him. You just use /report and let us do our job

this is false again

look he is insulting me while i have stopped insulting him

/report

That's not something to report

HE is something to report

is this not an insult?

no, it's still the reality

That's not something to report

/report

Stop misusing this. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. And u have a right to accept | reject.

spreading the false is not an opinion...

spreading the false is not an opinion...

spreading the false is not an opinion...

Then refute it

Refute it with better proofs and evidences... that's how it works

this is the demonstration that you are a retard

there are already too many beginners in this group, do you want them to become also retarded?

/warn insults

already did, but he can't understand english….

you use sentence fragments i cannot understand sentences that are improperly formed to the point that we use 1.2 as a noun

like i am trying very hard to understand these sentence fragments that you do say but they are not proper english

yes yes, i like chocolate too, now go to sleep

what does this have to do with the discussion at hand?

because if we want to go this way i can start saying archaic shit and pretend you are too stupid to understand but this is what 10 year olds do

/warn insults

can you answer my question?

are you italian?

I can be italian

Lo sei o no?

Yes. However, use english

after several minutes,I wonder the result of your argue

lol this is not graphics api discussion chat

this is the demonstration that you are a retard

You can present your args without insult. Life's easier than that

that's not true if someone its too stupid to understand things and you know it

that's not true if someone its too stupid to understand things and you know it