It'd be better flatpak or rpm?

It'd be better flatpak or rpm?

RPM ofc. Flatpak is shit.

Telegram flatpak is shit or flatpak is shit?

Telegram flatpak is shit or flatpak is shit?

Both. Telegram flatpak is just repacked official half-proprietary build from offsite.

So the same i'm using right now, ok

RPM from RPMFusion built against system libraries from sources.

does rpm version still force open sans?

does rpm version still force open sans?

Ofc.

it has separate update system

I actually think that's worse

Telegram flatpak is shit or flatpak is shit?

Telegram flatpak

Fernando its, not. You get the software updates as they roll out.

Flatpak is shit imo

I will never embrace it

Fernando its, not. You get the software updates as they roll out.

That's also usually the case with fedora repos

I think everything boils down to who you trust

Thats not the case with fedora, fedora is not actually blleding edge with everything.

You're right about trust though

I know, bug it usually is with leaf packages

interestingly enough id trust telegram for their updates. No middleman, and telegram has been a pioneer in open and encrypted communications.

Good morning, everybody.

LOL, this: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/13/740

Can i ask you why do you think flatpak are so bad?

Can i ask you why do you think flatpak are so bad?

I think they are okay, there are downsides like bigger overhead though

Can i ask you why do you think flatpak are so bad?

Bigger overhead, just another way of doing the same thing

The thing I hate but also love about linux is everyone comes up with different solutions that "almost" do the same thing to achieve the same problem

Mir vs Wayland

Flatpak vs snappy

are just a couple fo examples

wouldalways rather build from source

for something that wasnt a personal computer or workstation I can see where using one of them might make sense but there isnt really a reason not to build from source or against distros packages

To each thereown though

The thing I hate but also love about linux is everyone comes up with different solutions that "almost" do the same thing to achieve the same problem

Don't forget Minix and Linux.

Finally!

Made in USSR. Nuclear warfare grade tech.

Made in USSR. Nuclear warfare grade tech.

We have a lot of them in the school.

We have a lot of them in the school.

Never saw an oscilloscope in school.

I only saw them where people worked with them.

Never saw an oscilloscope in school.

Physics class had ~10.

Nobody used them.

Physics class had ~10.

You had a good equipped school.

You had a good equipped school.

Nah :P

We studied Delphi at Windows ME PCs.

Untill we put Linux on them and switched to Lazarus.

We studied BorlandPascal at Windows XP.

Until I changed school, lol.

Oh.. I remember how I saw Linux at the first time.

That was a strange distribution called "Alt Linux Master" for education. We couldn't even copy paste picture in it. I didn't know anything about *nix, terminal, file system so I just thought win xp is way better.

We used ALT Linux 4. It was OK, as for me. Not an educational version though.

We studied Delphi at Windows ME PCs.

We had no informatics at all....

We studied Linux on those, programmed in Lazarus.

We had no informatics at all....

Tbh school informatics is useless.

The first program I ever wrote was in university, using Turbo Pascal.

Tbh school informatics is useless.

Depends.

Our informatics teacher was a bearded badass with his own business and some projects he did.

Depends.

They should learn how to use pc and networks. Not "how to write simple stdin -> stdout programs in Pascal".

And he taught us a shitton of useful things.

And did teaching just for lulz?

They should learn how to use pc and networks. Not "how to write simple stdin -> stdout programs in Pascal".

Well, our programming was up to webdev and a simple Excell-like application.

And did teaching just for lulz?

He liked to.

They should learn how to use pc and networks. Not "how to write simple stdin -> stdout programs in Pascal".

They should learn how to use pc and networks at 5-6 class.... Or even earlier.

Could afford to teach best students of the region in school with the most powerful teachers.

They should learn how to use pc and networks. Not "how to write simple stdin -> stdout programs in Pascal".

I'm talking about usual people, not IT-related.

One of best siberian highschools by students' results.

With partially university program.

I'm talking about usual people, not IT-related.

Well, we are not all physicians, but learn physics since 6 class.

Well, we are not all physicians, but learn physics since 6 class.

Hmm.. Maybe we should know the basics.

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And since children use their pc's and phones from early childhood, they can learn about it quite soon.

And goddammit, we had a superbadass math teacher.

And goddammit, we had a superbadass math teacher.

Haha :P

Math people are always badass.

now this one looks like something straight out of fallout. Awesome AF

We've been using analog oscilloscopes in the university. Hours of tweaking and adjusting to get something resembling a readable output... then a few years later we had to use a digital one, we started to adjust it again and then the teacher looked at us funny, asked why are we doing that to ourselves and pressed the "AUTO" button ?

:D

Well, we are not all physicians, but learn physics since 6 class.

Comrade нэвэльный?

Comrade нэвэльный?

Huh?

Huh?

nope.avi :D

nope.avi :D

...

I don't get that.

smells like a 10 year old memes to me

smells like a 10 year old memes to me

?

I don't get that.

Me neither.

They should learn how to use pc and networks at 5-6 class.... Or even earlier.

They should learn, playfully, safety and securuty basics in a playful way. Because if you start teaching them IT early and with lots of Specifics you will have a larger generation than ever screaming they want everything to "just work" and not wanting to learn anything about their systems

They should learn, playfully, safety and securuty basics in a playful way. Because if you start teaching them IT early and with lots of Specifics you will have a larger generation than ever screaming they want everything to "just work" and not wanting to learn anything about their systems

Security needs to be taught, but is requiring stuff to just work a bad thing? When I drive a car I don't want to be bothered on why does it work and why it doesn't

They should learn, playfully, safety and securuty basics in a playful way. Because if you start teaching them IT early and with lots of Specifics you will have a larger generation than ever screaming they want everything to "just work" and not wanting to learn anything about their systems

As you can see, I'm talking about what to teach, not how to do that. And of course I agree with your message.

it needs to work, when it doesn't I call service and that's it

Security needs to be taught, but is requiring stuff to just work a bad thing? When I drive a car I don't want to be bothered on why does it work and why it doesn't

You did learn how to drive it and you did look in the manual what that "service" led means tough

You did learn how to drive it and you did look in the manual what that "service" led means tough

true that

Thats a amount of work most dont want to spend on their devices

The more child want to learn, the more details he will learn by himself. But the basics must be taught.

that, like your car, can wipe out your existence by doing the wrong thing

So atleast teach basic courses on how not to crash and burn, basic browser extensions and how to set them up (heck not even essentially ublock, juet disconnect would suffice) and co.

Nah, that children already know :D

Nah, that children already know :D

Not enough

I taught them code ... like three years back

for school

They know how to do things, but they don't understand what are they actually doing.

it was abysmal to even get them into the basics

Hey, anyone know if rommon/telegram is abailable in fedora26?

aVailable And yes, Telegram works fine in Fedora. And no, I don't know what is Rommon. Have you any links?