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Kohane

13.07.2017
18:34:38

In my experience, I have never seen any GUI tool which is better than CLI tools, all GUI tools seemed to be the second choice for me, I don't deby Linux may have some decent GUI tools I don't know it but seriously do u prefer yumex over dnf installation ? Uget over wget ? Whatever chrome addon over youtube-dl? Ofc there are some fields where GUI shines like designing I even use CLI for moving between directory and moving files since I'm all the time working with pip and git more than file manger, CLI was always the special thing about Linux in my perspective, always take me few lines to host project while my class mates struggling because they have to install like 3 GUI tools in windows.

Seriously, yes, I do prefer the GUI. Why would I want to open a console when Firefox is already open and has many extensions for downloading? Yumex is great and Dnfdragora is even better. I only use command line when the GUI tool is defective. I can't say that using command line is particularly special or da point of Linux. I mean... MS-DOS used command line. And Win95. And Win98. And it was annoying. Besides that, of course I understand that for Windows users is more complicated because they don't have the tools, but... why would I care? I'm not a Windows user. My first computer came with Linux and I stuck to it.

Point of Sale obviously! xd no, "Piece Of Sh.."

Ah! Now it makes more sense. TBH, I Googled POS and found your sentence even more confusing once I knew what it meant.

Another good example of CLI abilities is installing fonts, in GUI I have to open up each font and click install, now what if I have 400 fonts ? Just type su in terminal then type the name of your file manger (browsing file in root permission), open certain directory for fonts, copy and past, and u r good to go

Open the fonts? What for? Just copy them into /home/your-user/.fonts Or if your using KDE, use the font manager in Settings. It's awesome!

Tobias?

13.07.2017
18:38:07

Seriously, yes, I do prefer the GUI. Why would I want to open a console when Firefox is already open and has many extensions for downloading? Yumex is great and Dnfdragora is even better. I only use command line when the GUI tool is defective. I can't say that using command line is particularly special or da point of Linux. I mean... MS-DOS used command line. And Win95. And Win98. And it was annoying. Besides that, of course I understand that for Windows users is more complicated because they don't have the tools, but... why would I care? I'm not a Windows user. My first computer came with Linux and I stuck to it.

Win95 having a shitty command line was always the point why developers used linux in the end aswell as servers.

Google

Tobias?

13.07.2017
18:38:20

Windows never had a good, unified, sane system to manage anything above three servers

Oh an of course powershell still sucks to this very day

Kohane

13.07.2017
18:39:30

Win95 having a shitty command line was always the point why developers used linux in the end aswell as servers.

No wonder. I hadn't a computer myself (back in the moment they were very expensive) but I used my friends computers. And I hated to read long lists of command to do the stupidest things.

Tobias?

13.07.2017
18:40:30

No wonder. I hadn't a computer myself (back in the moment they were very expensive) but I used my friends computers. And I hated to read long lists of command to do the stupidest things.

Even things like adding newlines in commands hello \ option 1 is easy on nix - on windows its a pain to script, read and write

Kohane

13.07.2017
18:40:41

Oh an of course powershell still sucks to this very day

Last time I used powershell or similar was like half a minute in a classroom. Hated it and want back to my laptop.

Any addon won't give u the ability to do what youtube-dl does, download a whole playlists and convert it to m4a (audio) in one command, downlaoding the video with subtitles I'm not sure about the last one tho

Well, that's something you do so Youtube-dl fits you. But it's something that I DON'T so it doesn't fit me. The nuisance of opening a terminal everytime I want to download something overcomes the features that it has (and I don't use).

But every person is entitled to use whatever he or she wants. That's the point of Linux.

Also addon will not resume the downloading if ur connection went down.

There are addons that resume the download when something goes wrong.

Ofc CLI is faster

Opening a terminal every time I need something is faster? When I already have an icon / button to click on it? Why? The button is already there and my mouse is already there. Why opening a new programme should make it faster?

Sadin

13.07.2017
18:47:24

Well, that's something you do so Youtube-dl fits you. But it's something that I DON'T so it doesn't fit me. The nuisance of opening a terminal everytime I want to download something overcomes the features that it has (and I don't use).

preach it! :)

Anxhelo

13.07.2017
18:47:58

Opening a terminal every time I need something is faster? When I already have an icon / button to click on it? Why? The button is already there and my mouse is already there. Why opening a new programme should make it faster?

We are talking for many actions, not just one simple download

Try to batch convert to pdf using LibreOffice

Done in like milliseconds using the command line

Google

Anxhelo

13.07.2017
18:48:38

It might take hours using GUI

Muhammad Najih

13.07.2017
18:48:46

well...please respect each others what our like to doing something with something :-)

norj

13.07.2017
18:49:31

so we gui now?

Tobias?

13.07.2017
18:49:56

Opening a terminal every time I need something is faster? When I already have an icon / button to click on it? Why? The button is already there and my mouse is already there. Why opening a new programme should make it faster?

You should always have a terminal with tmux open - then you can shortcut faster than mouse ever will

Obviously :P

Kohane

13.07.2017
18:50:20

Try to batch convert to pdf using LibreOffice

Oh. Okay, I never did batxh convert of anything, so I can't tell. I do remember doing something like sticking spare pages into a single PDF document, but it's been so long that probably the tool I used doesn't exist anymore. ?

You should always have a terminal with tmux open - then you can shortcut faster than mouse ever will

What for? I never use it. Except to update Flatpak. And DNF

Tobias?

13.07.2017
18:51:18

What for? I never use it. Except to update Flatpak. And DNF

Ye, as normal user you wouldnt

but developers can use this to do shit really efficiently

(■_■¬)

13.07.2017
19:26:45

"Pumped up Kicks" start in the background...

Anxhelo

13.07.2017
19:27:11

"Pumped up Kicks" start in the background...

Hahahaha

Hello and welcome ?

Red_hat

13.07.2017
20:15:24

NEw python spin in 26 is amazing

what's that ?

you mean python lab ?

Fernando

13.07.2017
20:19:36

I wondered whether anyone uses labs

Anxhelo

13.07.2017
20:19:52

I used to use Design Suite

but too many tools I didn't need

so decided to stay with bare XFCE

Red_hat

13.07.2017
20:20:09

I wondered whether anyone uses labs

security lab

got almost everthing kali got

Google

Fernando

13.07.2017
20:20:39

but too many tools I didn't need

That's what I think about the labs targeted to me

It's easy to install what I need than to strip down the labs

Easier

Kohane

13.07.2017
20:22:47

I wondered whether anyone uses labs

I like the Astronomy Lab. I even wrote an article about it.

but too many tools I didn't need

I like the Design Suite, I didn't find it has too many tool. What I didn't like it's the desktop.

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
20:24:28

hi, there's a feature called palm detection which disables touchpad when you hold a keyboard button. how do I disable it permanently?

(■_■¬)

13.07.2017
21:04:52

hi, there's a feature called palm detection which disables touchpad when you hold a keyboard button. how do I disable it permanently?

What Fedora version are you using?

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
21:05:06

26

(■_■¬)

13.07.2017
21:05:31

26

Which DE?

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
21:05:40

gnome

(■_■¬)

13.07.2017
21:07:20

gnome

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
21:08:10

what? I need to use touchpad

I meant I need to disable palm detection permanently

(■_■¬)

13.07.2017
21:08:35

what? I need to use touchpad

>how do I disable it permanently?

I meant I need to disable palm detection permanently

Oh...

I meant I need to disable palm detection permanently

Have a look to this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics

I meant I need to disable palm detection permanently

Or this: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/131/touchpad-indicator/

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
21:16:01

thanks, I'll check later

Будда

13.07.2017
21:35:13

Is that normal to develop gtk apps in KDE? ??

Google

Kohane

13.07.2017
21:52:22

Is that normal to develop gtk apps in KDE? ??

Well, why not?

Будда

13.07.2017
21:52:52

gtk here looks something bad

Kohane

13.07.2017
21:53:29

Why? Do you have a screen shot?

I'd like to see what is looking bad.

Будда

13.07.2017
21:54:59

From my previous experience. Cause in this computer XFCE. Other - in text mode, I`m installing the system. But if I google it..

Kohane

13.07.2017
21:55:54

GTK apps I use at the moment, look fine.

Admin

ERROR: S client not available

Kohane

13.07.2017
21:56:07

In KDE I mean.

But I have installed a module to configure GTK appearance under KDE.

Будда

13.07.2017
21:57:17

what name of package?

Kohane

13.07.2017
21:57:43

I think it's qt to GTK

Or something very similar to that.

Будда

13.07.2017
21:58:04

thanks

Kohane

13.07.2017
21:58:19

I installed it ages, that's why I don't remember.

Rafael

13.07.2017
22:02:28

Hey, anyone know if rommon/telegram is abailable in fedora26?

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
22:06:55

I don't know what's rommon but telegram works well for me on f26

Rafael

13.07.2017
22:10:22

Umn, now the telegram-desktop its abailable in rpm-fusion.. https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/rommon/telegram/

Sadin

13.07.2017
22:10:56

makes sense

that it would be in fusion

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
22:11:18

it's better to install it from their website

Google

Sadin

13.07.2017
22:11:24

Truth

Fernando

13.07.2017
22:11:42

it's better to install it from their website

Better in which way?

Matteo

13.07.2017
22:11:46

I use the "standalone" version, i prefer it for a lot of reasons

Like the fact that i put it in my home and all my OS can see it

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
22:12:28

Better in which way?

it has separate update system

Like the fact that i put it in my home and all my OS can see it

you should put it in /opt/Telegram

Sadin

13.07.2017
22:12:57

^

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
22:13:03

it doesn't follow fontconfig otherwise

Matteo

13.07.2017
22:13:51

you should put it in /opt/Telegram

I know, but every os i install sees it without problems. That is something i prefer

Vitaly

13.07.2017
22:15:02

it's better to install it from their website

No. Don't do this.

1. It contains bundled static outdated openssl library. 2. It contains bundled static ubuntu versions of lots of system libraries and even glibc. 3. Doesn't support system font settings. 4. Half-proprietary.

Matteo

13.07.2017
22:15:46

I always preferred standalone apps for this motivations

illiatshurotshka❄️

13.07.2017
22:15:59

it doesn't support your system font settings because you didn't install it properly

Vitaly

13.07.2017
22:16:13

Just enable RPMFusion repo and run: sudo dnf install telegram-desktop

it doesn't support your system font settings because you didn't install it properly

Official half-proprietary includes bundled static fontconfig and freetype so it will not respect font settings.

illiatshurotshka❄️