But their own python neither django nor webpy

I'm just want to say, that this lang was developed within 15 days, and 'till now uses all legacy stuff, which makes it complicated :)

javascript is mostly associated with browsers because it should stay there

Also, wappalyzer can't always determine right what runs in the back - also be sure to disable their analytics tracking.

So does yandex, tons of russian services (ok, avito, sber), deutsche bank, idk, less popular banks, ibm, and more, and more. Lots of companies don't it, so it can be found on the internet.

So does yandex, tons of russian services (ok, avito, sber), deutsche bank, idk, less popular banks, ibm, and more, and more. Lots of companies don't it, so it can be found on the internet.

Neither Yandex, nor Sber or others are using Java.

And yes, not sure about now, but some time back gmail used GWT to generate all HTML/JS stuff.

Hmm, i used it sometimes and it can actualy tell wether i actualy use PHP, Rails or etc on the backend thoug indeed they give wrong version sometimes

If you set "expose php" to disabled it cant. and the second you send something like "powered by ror" it will gladly tell you that the remote uses ruby on rails.

Neither Yandex, nor Sber or others are using Java.

And that is the reason why they appear on jpoint XD

If you set "expose php" to disabled it cant. and the second you send something like "powered by ror" it will gladly tell you that the remote uses ruby on rails.

Probably

Unless you use a very crappy language-specific framework/turd *cough wordpress cough* it knows you have php again aswell as a turd

And that is the reason why they appear on jpoint XD

This is a false positive of Google Analytics/Yandex tracking code. They checked if Java installed to report.

Unless you use a very crappy language-specific framework/turd *cough wordpress cough* it knows you have php again aswell as a turd

Incase of WP, it can easly determined from their generated html ? Well, some framwork or CMS often do that

This is a false positive of Google Analytics/Yandex tracking code. They checked if Java installed to report.

just hope you trolling me. Anyway, you can google an information or ask a colleagues. I'm going out of this holywar.

just hope you trolling me. Anyway, you can google an information or ask a colleagues. I'm going out of this holywar.

I have no Java installed in my browser since 2005. Everything works fine. No websites require it.

Incase of WP, it can easly determined from their generated html ? Well, some framwork or CMS often do that

Many, which is why you should avoid a ton of these

espscially shit lile joomla, typo or wp

just hope you trolling me. Anyway, you can google an information or ask a colleagues. I'm going out of this holywar.

Its no Holywar

You bith miaunderstand each other

Vitali means the software in the backend XVitali means frontend on the client XD

It is either a trolling, or Vitaliy don't know that backend is (:

And yes, java is rightfully not a frontend or browser usage anymore

It is either a trolling, or Vitaliy don't know that backend is (:

No, he likely misunderstood.

Vitali means the software in the backend XVitali means frontend on the client XD

Yes, I'm talking about frontend.

Many, which is why you should avoid a ton of these

It's been quite sometimes since i'm using Wordpress. (Used to use it for my personal Blog but i moved it to Ghost platform, yeah Node based ?) Haven't realy try other CMS like joomla, drupal etc

Yes, I'm talking about frontend.

And we're talking about backend.

And java in the backend is mostly used by companies with massive funds which care about 1000req/sec extra

It's been quite sometimes since i'm using Wordpress. (Used to use it for my personal Blog but i moved it to Ghost platform, yeah Node based ?) Haven't realy try other CMS like joomla, drupal etc

Never use wordpress if you can get around it, really. especially if you use any addons

This is a false positive of Google Analytics/Yandex tracking code. They checked if Java installed to report.

jpoint is a java conference, not an addon.

Never use wordpress if you can get around it, really. especially if you use any addons

Any reason? just curious. The things that make me move on from Wordpress is because it's feel more and more slower on each version, while i only need simple bloging platform. the only addons / plugin i use when still using WP probably just Jetpacks. ?

Any reason? just curious. The things that make me move on from Wordpress is because it's feel more and more slower on each version, while i only need simple bloging platform. the only addons / plugin i use when still using WP probably just Jetpacks. ?

It is vulnerable: wp is easy to hack, and plugins make it easier, because of their own vulnerabilities. For a simple blog platform — maybe, but do backups :)

It is vulnerable: wp is easy to hack, and plugins make it easier, because of their own vulnerabilities. For a simple blog platform — maybe, but do backups :)

ah yes, i remember lot's article mention those point a lot

hey all :) have a good day .. i wanna ask .. my fedora gnome it's eating about 1.5 GB from memory alone without any running programms and the CPU usage is about 2% installed xfce and it's about 1.1 GB on xfce :( WWWhyy that

Because XFCE is lighter on resources

my friends have the same fedora gnome and it's about 300 MB without any thing

If you see 1,5Gb usage it doesn't always really mean that all of them are used.

It just mapped for future uses, and if some other applications will have to take lots of RAM, this 1,5G for gnone will be shorten for the others.

If you see 1,5Gb usage it doesn't always really mean that all of them are used.

it's lagging some times, i have 4GB ram and it's lagging sometimes :(

What else is launched on your pc?

sometimes it's just lagging from chrome "1 page " or firefox

it wasn't like that before :( updates or there is somthing wrong i did :(

Hm.. idk. You can try to disable animations for now and relaunch your xserver. Is it a gnome-shell itself? Show your system monitor. Do you have any gnome extensions?

Hm.. idk. You can try to disable animations for now and relaunch your xserver. Is it a gnome-shell itself? Show your system monitor. Do you have any gnome extensions?

yeah i have but i didn't think it's the main reason ! , cuz on of my friends was having a theme and sure he have a personal extentions .. but all was okay .. will try and be back

yeah i have but i didn't think it's the main reason ! , cuz on of my friends was having a theme and sure he have a personal extentions .. but all was okay .. will try and be back

Just assuming, that after an update something could break extensions.

Any reason? just curious. The things that make me move on from Wordpress is because it's feel more and more slower on each version, while i only need simple bloging platform. the only addons / plugin i use when still using WP probably just Jetpacks. ?

Constant vulnerabilities, shittily coded, a heap of a massive turd to secure and strap down and and and

my friends have the same fedora gnome and it's about 300 MB without any thing

You can disable a ton of stuffs, like tracker-extractor and more.

Things that eat ram but obviously make your life faster and easier in day to day usage

Show the processes tab and the file system tab.

This memory usage mustn't affect your ux so hard.

acually it does with a meduim programs and it's doesn't give the full usage of the 4 GB ram

Well, your shell uses only 700 of that memory. And you can click "memory", "CPU" tabs to show the highest values.

Things that eat ram but obviously make your life faster and easier in day to day usage

: ( yesterday i have forced the laptop to power off cuz of that services that eat my ram :( , i think i'll go to arch at the end or will reformat to a fresh version of the system

So look there and determine who consumes your RAM and CPU more when you'll got lagging. I'm a bit sure, that it's not a gnome-shell, but some other process.

Oh, okay, I see, gnome-shell: 55% to 59% of CPU.

Oh, okay, I see, gnome-shell: 55% to 59% of CPU.

WHAT ?

WHAT ?

Just what you've shown.

why could be that ?

Try to follow @Wolfshappen solution.

launch tracker-preferences and disable indexing.

Try to follow @Wolfshappen solution.

i mean why it could take the gnome-shell 55% ?! am i the only on who feel that's strange thing ?!

i mean why it could take the gnome-shell 55% ?! am i the only on who feel that's strange thing ?!

It is bad, and the only option to fix it — to understand why it uses cpu a lot (or reinstall gnome (or reinstall fedora)). Or to try to google "gnome-shell uses cpu too much".

It is bad, and the only option to fix it — to understand why it uses cpu a lot (or reinstall gnome (or reinstall fedora)). Or to try to google "gnome-shell uses cpu too much".

Okay , thanks ^)

Is Node good option ?

I think a few people more or less got at this, but yes, it is an option. Like PHP, I think it's really easy to write bad code though. So it can cause problems for long-term development if you're not careful. I think where Node is best though is if you are working on a project and need to make a proof of concept for something fast and easy. Node is easy enough to create a simple application and it can be nice if you just want to get something up and running fast.

Java for Web is dead in 2000.

Maybe, but I'm not surprised to find it in company intranets (i.e. off the public web).

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I think a few people more or less got at this, but yes, it is an option. Like PHP, I think it's really easy to write bad code though. So it can cause problems for long-term development if you're not careful. I think where Node is best though is if you are working on a project and need to make a proof of concept for something fast and easy. Node is easy enough to create a simple application and it can be nice if you just want to get something up and running fast.

Node.js is not the problem, the problem is js itself

javascript is just a mad dog which is not supposed to go out side the cage (the browser)

server side is fucked up enough by other shitty language to be screwed by js

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, my point is I think Node has its purpose. But you can say that about any language too. Node is great for building applications fast. Doesn't mean they're secure or always performant, but it's easier than some other languages.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, my point is I think Node has its purpose. But you can say that about any language too. Node is great for building applications fast. Doesn't mean they're secure or always performant, but it's easier than some other languages.

yes using the MEAN stacks in both clint and server side sounds easy since you use one programming language

What about go (Golang)?

What about go (Golang)?

Go is amazing

I haven't learned it but want to.

Im learning go, I love it! My favorite feature is the way you can make the documentation online.

What about go (Golang)?

Beautiful, fast, good multithreading (go-routines), used by google in reality (e.g. they rewrote make on a half, called kati).

What about go (Golang)?

In my office, we're 90% Python, and Go is breaking in as the other 10%. Mostly because it's a niche language but it does a few things very, very, very well.

Also very nice for working with Kubernetes sort of things, heheh

Yes Go language is just amazing, I'll stick by C# and python tho.

Ofc, u just need dnf install npm

Oh... I finally come to know what this package is for.

Hi @aboazzam7 ! Welcome aboard!

Why not, it is asynchronous, flexible, you can write one language both a server and a client (if you're studying it). Lots of good and big services are build upon the Node.js, a bit difficult to learn. Personally I hate it and I see the world, where the JavaScript will die, and everyone will live in harmony and happiness, but to be pragmatic, it is a good option to write backend, you can use it (please, don't).

This is sort of schizofrenic... or at least passive-aggressive ?

This is sort of schizofrenic... or at least passive-aggressive ?

Why so? No passive aggresion!) The first part is pragmatic, the second one is my own vision :)

Yeah, but it's like "Use it but don't use it"

If I was me who's just starting I would feel really confused.

You are saying "confused" like it is something bad.

""Any application that can be written in JavaScript, will eventually be written in JavaScript""

You are saying "confused" like it is something bad.

Why would it be good?

You know... why wouldn't?

Hi, @marcusvamelo

Hi

Instead of ask why, ask why not?

Whatever.

You know... why wouldn't?

Every real programmer on this planet knows why

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