I`m just scrolling fb, and this shows up on my newfeed...

https://9gag.com/gag/aNzowb3?ref=fbp

@Kohane, coincidence?

@Kohane, coincidence?

Maybe... ?

WIth Johnny Lee Miller...

With Benedict Cumberbatch ?

With Benedict Cumberbatch ?

Ok both of `em, and RDJ...

And Ian Richardson...

Please is it possible to program in angular on fedora

It is.

Ofc, u just need dnf install npm

Linux is the most programmer-friendly among all OSes

What should I use in server side

Whatever you like

Is Node good option ?

It's an option, good one ? I don't thing so

Look

In the past, we were screwing small things with JavaScript

It was just a toy

Till Google and some other companies decided to screw the whole back and front end with JavaScript (JS)

But js is an awful language anyway

Go with Ruby , I'm on django and when I wanna pay my bills, I use asp.net

Is Node good option ?

Why not, it is asynchronous, flexible, you can write one language both a server and a client (if you're studying it). Lots of good and big services are build upon the Node.js, a bit difficult to learn. Personally I hate it and I see the world, where the JavaScript will die, and everyone will live in harmony and happiness, but to be pragmatic, it is a good option to write backend, you can use it (please, don't).

Your profile Image Is a render?

It is but not from me

Why not, it is asynchronous, flexible, you can write one language both a server and a client (if you're studying it). Lots of good and big services are build upon the Node.js, a bit difficult to learn. Personally I hate it and I see the world, where the JavaScript will die, and everyone will live in harmony and happiness, but to be pragmatic, it is a good option to write backend, you can use it (please, don't).

JavaScript is the most terrible language in back-end

JavaScript is the most terrible language in back-end

JavaScript is the most terrible language no matter where.

It doesn't support multi threadning, it force you to write ugly syntax with no reason I mean C++ has hard syntax but it's 10x faster than JavaScript!

And here I've stopped to understand you.

With all that hard code, JavaScript is just 3 times faster than the easiest language, smalltalk and python

Holy bottle of rum! Morning! It's almost noon!

Holy bottle of rum! Morning! It's almost noon!

Good day sir

It has c-like syntax, so it's not the main issue. And also node.js provides an ability for asynchronous programming (it is one of the main features).

What should I use in server side

Anyway, it depends on what do you want to reach and what do you want to learn.

It has c-like syntax, so it's not the main issue. And also node.js provides an ability for asynchronous programming (it is one of the main features).

So isn't it supposed to be closer to c-like languages in performance and speed ? Funny I use pypy (python implementation) which makes python faster and far easier than JavaScript!

Anyway, it depends on what do you want to reach and what do you want to learn.

Yes it's matter of choices after all

But anyway @XtheCodeX you should consider the market in your country, perhaps most companies use node where you live! Then go for it or any other language you find it popular there

Good day sir

Thanks, good day to you too!

So isn't it supposed to be closer to c-like languages in performance and speed ? Funny I use pypy (python implementation) which makes python faster and far easier than JavaScript!

No, it isn't. You're comparing uncomparable stuff. Moreover, performance is not always the most needed thing in backend (say wha...???), because you will be always limited by database and an internet connection speed. Otherwise, why would people use java for enterprise? Yes, all jvm's are optimized as far as it possible, and people working at it, but performance is not the key to be popular on backend. And a good architecture makes more profit, than any language's pros.

But anyway @XtheCodeX you should consider the market in your country, perhaps most companies use node where you live! Then go for it or any other language you find it popular there

And this is also a good point.

Hope, we've helped you, @XtheCodeX .

No, it isn't. You're comparing uncomparable stuff. Moreover, performance is not always the most needed thing in backend (say wha...???), because you will be always limited by database and an internet connection speed. Otherwise, why would people use java for enterprise? Yes, all jvm's are optimized as far as it possible, and people working at it, but performance is not the key to be popular on backend. And a good architecture makes more profit, than any language's pros.

I'm not saying the performance matters that much, I merely mean that JavaScript has harder syntax than other language without any additional features.

Hope, we've helped you, @XtheCodeX .

Sure thax a lot

But anyway @XtheCodeX you should consider the market in your country, perhaps most companies use node where you live! Then go for it or any other language you find it popular there

Thank you

I'm not saying the performance matters that much, I merely mean that JavaScript has harder syntax than other language without any additional features.

Don't forget how many days it has been taken to develop this language ;)

Don't forget how many days it has been taken to develop this language ;)

Yes it's mature enough but I'm not comparing it to python and especially ruby in the back-end

People start to think node is the future, in my opinion Go language is the new sexy :)

I'm just want to say, that this lang was developed within 15 days, and 'till now uses all legacy stuff, which makes it complicated :)

People start to think node is the future, in my opinion Go language is the new sexy :)

idk, JVM rules (especially, with Kotlin).

idk, JVM rules (especially, with Kotlin).

For web ? Well spring is fine but enterprises tend to use Asp.net due its popularity

Uhm, but JVM for web and enterprise is more popular, than .NET today.

Uhm, but JVM for web and enterprise is more popular, than .NET today.

Really ?

yup

Just google it (:

Uhm, but JVM for web and enterprise is more popular, than .NET today.

Java != JavaScript!

ORLY

That's new to me, I work in company after the university we use C# for everything

Java for Web is dead in 2000.

Java != JavaScript!

Maybe i'm not talking about javascript right now?)

Java for Web is dead in 2000.

An expert in thread. To be short: no.

An expert in thread. To be short: no.

The java web (javafx) part is

the backend part isnt

Xamatin, WPF, powershell and Asp.net but when I wanna enjoy coding I just use djangp ;)

An expert in thread. To be short: no.

Please show me a modern website which requires Java.

requirement != usage

requirement != usage

Okay. Show me a modern website which uses Java in 2017.

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gmail

Okay. Show me a modern website which uses Java in 2017.

Linked-in

gmail

It doesnt

GMail use Java?

You are wrong. Gmail is using HTML5+JavaScript, not Java.

Yup, it had used gwt with java.

Where the fuck does gmail use java? It uses tons of javascript in the Browser

Are you trolling me, people?)

GMail use Java?

Google blog platform does and Google drive

Are you trolling me, people?)

No, Gmail is uaing 0 java

Where the fuck does gmail use java? It uses tons of javascript in the Browser

That's angular

In the frontend

Google blog platform does and Google drive

No. You are wrong too.

Just download wappalyzer and install it to your browsers, you all will be really surprised :)

We are not talking backend

Just download wappalyzer and install it to your browsers, you all will be really surprised :)

We wont because the frontend is not using java.

What is in the backend on the server is a different story.

Just download wappalyzer and install it to your browsers, you all will be really surprised :)

Yes that addons tell that Google drive and linked-in use java

But we were talking about a backend, 'till you've started to type

And node.js

And blogger

But we were talking about a backend, 'till you've started to type

Google is using Python in their backend.

Not everywhere

Google is using Python in their backend.

A healthy mix of python java and more

IF i'm correct Wapplyzer can determine what's running on the backend aswell, though sometime it's can't...

And go.

IF i'm correct Wapplyzer can determine what's running on the backend aswell, though sometime it's can't...

It cant always

And it is often wrong

Where the fuck does gmail use java? It uses tons of javascript in the Browser

Where the fuck i was talking about browsers? XD

Google is using Python in their backend.

Not all their projects, Google engine search amd YouTube use python

Also C++

It cant always

Hmm, i used it sometimes and it can actualy tell wether i actualy use PHP, Rails or etc on the backend thoug indeed they give wrong version sometimes