Morning ?

Evening, Justin.

I forgot again, $TIME_OF_DAY. ? Morning, afternoon, evening!

hello

I forgot again, $TIME_OF_DAY. ? Morning, afternoon, evening!

what programming language is this ?

`time = input("Enter your currnet time") print("good {}".format(time)`

Morning from Chile

Probably bash

ah sysadmin stuff

why don't sysadmins use the ordinary programming lang like python and ruby

why don't sysadmins use the ordinary programming lang like python and ruby

I guess they do, but for some simpler stuff bash is always there to use

because of oneline scripts

so it's faster

why don't sysadmins use the ordinary programming lang like python and ruby

Because bash is all you need

what programming language is this ?

Just a Bash variable. :)

And bash is widely installed on servers, while there could be neither python (2.7, 3?) nor ruby.

Because bash is all you need

Heh, it's funny this comes up. I just wrote a script in Python and I asked a few people for review before I run it in my infrastructure, and some people said, "You can do this in one line with sed in a command line." Oops… ?

It's fast, portable and there is no need to install anything

make sense, but learning a whole new programming language isn't that fun but it seems the preferable choice after all

make sense, but learning a whole new programming language isn't that fun but it seems the preferable choice after all

Well

Heh, it's funny this comes up. I just wrote a script in Python and I asked a few people for review before I run it in my infrastructure, and some people said, "You can do this in one line with sed in a command line." Oops… ?

Sometimes "can" doesn't mean the same as "should"... ;)

I guess you could as well write in perl using 10 characters like $*@#(()) but I doubt it will be a better solution

pretty dead language acoording to last stackoverflow survey

pretty dead language acoording to last stackoverflow survey

which one

which one

perl

perl

and? ;)

Well, there are several things: normally you start using bash just concatenating several commands, that's not a language at all. Then you will begin to need heavier stuff like conditionals and loops, at the end you're programming in bash

I guess you could as well write in perl using 10 characters like $*@#(()) but I doubt it will be a better solution

Someone also suggested Perl but I'd just prefer to do it in Python than Perl. ?

Well, there are several things: normally you start using bash just concatenating several commands, that's not a language at all. Then you will begin to need heavier stuff like conditionals and loops, at the end you're programming in bash

++

and? ;)

php, i don't know about bash

I was doing a pretty simple thing, I guess, just search and replace a string in a text file

pretty dead language acoording to last stackoverflow survey

That's something that you will never see

Someone also suggested Perl but I'd just prefer to do it in Python than Perl. ?

I gave it as an example why sometimes shorter solution is not a better one because it's not readable at all for anyone else besides someone who wrote it + some magicians

I was doing a pretty simple thing, I guess, just search and replace a string in a text file

That's why sed could solve it in one line.

I was doing a pretty simple thing, I guess, just search and replace a string in a text file

well, in that case yeah, I think I would use grep or sed ;)

That's something that you will never see

the survey? it's so informative

https://github.com/jflory7/infrastructure/pull/6

the survey? it's so informative

No. The death of perl

the survey? it's so informative

This survey is a popularity contest, not a contest checking which language is better

Perl will never die.

Perl can be old, can be tricky, can even be ugly, but it's powerful like any other

perl is awesome for quick hacks and file manipulation, once anything as complicated as hashmaps enter the stage I consider switching to something nicer... ;)

I have been a contributor in the Fedora Project community since August 2015. I primarily work with Community Operations (CommOps), Marketing (via the Fedora Magazine), and Ambassadors. I am currently an Ambassador for the North America region.?

Perl is a write-only language...

Perl is a write-only language...

I think Perl's main problem is in the amount of shortcuts you can take to do a lot of stuff, it is its strenght when you want to hack something up quickly but reading code where a few of those shortcuts are taken is a pain

I have been a contributor in the Fedora Project community since August 2015. I primarily work with Community Operations (CommOps), Marketing (via the Fedora Magazine), and Ambassadors. I am currently an Ambassador for the North America region.?

Whaaa?

Oops

I have been a contributor in the Fedora Project community since August 2015. I primarily work with Community Operations (CommOps), Marketing (via the Fedora Magazine), and Ambassadors. I am currently an Ambassador for the North America region.?

Hi, I'm a contributor since last year, also in commops, marketing and ambassadors. I'm an ambassador for the latam region

that was on Jflory's site

Hi, I'm a contributor since last year, also in commops, marketing and ambassadors. I'm an ambassador for the latam region

i have no idea

i have no idea

About what?

Fedora project community etc...

that was on Jflory's site

I was going to say, that's awfully familiar… ?

???

?

Do you have any Debian Group on Telegram?

t.me/debiangroup

I don't speak Spanish

I don't speak Spanish

I can only speak English and Indonesian

Ouch… curl creator was denied entry to the US today

https://twitter.com/bagder/status/879198063998513152

Ouch… curl creator was denied entry to the US today

Any backstory why the denial?

am curious

https://twitter.com/bagder/status/879198063998513152

wasn't it that he was denied visa-less entry what happens from time to time? That way or another, I really appreciate Schengen area.

wasn't it that he was denied visa-less entry what happens from time to time? That way or another, I really appreciate Schengen area.

Yeah, no kidding.

oh thanks. That's a weird reason to block someone.

oh thanks. That's a weird reason to block someone.

Yeah. Days like this aren't days I'm proud to be an American

There is a reason why I dont' travel to the US since more than 20 years, even refused invitations by Google several times (was a GSoC project admin and mentor several times)

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There is a reason why I dont' travel to the US since more than 20 years, even refused invitations by Google several times (was a GSoC project admin and mentor several times)

Why don't you travel to the US then?

Because they can deny entry at will and without reason, can make a copy of my laptop disk. It's their border laws that keep me from it.

Because they can deny entry at will and without reason, can make a copy of my laptop disk. It's their border laws that keep me from it.

What if you send your laptop as luggage?

same.

Encrypt your hdd/sdd?

then they can force you to hand out the key or take the next plan back.

Use two keys system. :D

why support a fascist country in the first place?

Too much for just a tourist

so many nice places on this earth ;)

like albania ;)

Or estonia.

yes, I heard it's nice.

It really is (no kidding). It also good for it-people/

I am not picky in that case.

Wherever I would be able to live better, that would be my pick.

Albania, Estonia or usa? » Wherever Didn't parse it for the first time.

Guilty of enabling encryption when downloading os dvd's

Deny Entrance to Arstrotzka

Albania, Estonia or usa? » Wherever Didn't parse it for the first time.

Whatever.

What company would give better conditions.

Or estonia.

I'm considering going to Estonia for vacations for a couple of days

I am going to my homeland for a week soon.

I am going to my homeland for a week soon.

It's not Russia?

Central Siberia, Buryatia. Baikal lake.

sounds awesome

Cool

Both of your plans

saw a documentary about Siberia the other day. Countryside looked beautiful

I want to go to my partial homeland :) But dont know what to do there.

I want to go to my partial homeland :) But dont know what to do there.

I don't know yet what to do in Estonia as well, but I guess hiking and sightseeing is as good as any other plan

2200km by car.