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Michał
26.06.2017
09:26:29
CSD on XFCE? ?
looks a bit out of place, but I think it's still pretty good

Gwindor
26.06.2017
09:26:41
Not .json though, shouls be .js

Sid
26.06.2017
09:26:58
looks a bit out of place, but I think it's still pretty good
Mints X-app is the same thing, pre CSD...

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Michał
26.06.2017
09:27:33
Mints X-app is the same thing, pre CSD...
so those are the forked old versions of Gnome's apps, without improvements and security patches?

Sid
26.06.2017
09:28:28
so those are the forked old versions of Gnome's apps, without improvements and security patches?
UI forked, updated with features and bug fixes... To keep the apps distro agnostic

Michał
26.06.2017
09:28:54
Sid
26.06.2017
09:29:35
if they keep up with fixes and features then it's cool
You can try them on Fedora, if u want to...

Quinten
26.06.2017
09:30:35
Mints X-app is the same thing, pre CSD...
But I doubt in any repos other than Mints and AUR

Sid
26.06.2017
09:32:13
But I doubt in any repos other than Mints and AUR
I have them on F25, and openSUSE has them too, actually...

Sid
26.06.2017
09:32:52
Im not sure about debian though, will test soon...

oh, nice
That's the point of the apps, distro & desktop agnosticism

Quinten
26.06.2017
09:34:32
That's the point of the apps, distro & desktop agnosticism
I know but I doubted others would ship them

Sid
26.06.2017
09:35:06
Kohane
26.06.2017
09:39:16
Or firefox's built in one, whatever is it called.
I'm not going to open such a heavy programme just to read a document.

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Kohane
26.06.2017
09:45:24
Try the others?
Yeah, I'm searching and installing.

Meh... Okular = 229MBs Atril: 54MBs

Why they take so much space?

Tobias?
26.06.2017
09:56:45
Why they take so much space?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A

Supporting 40 different pdf standards, things pdfs can support and more.

Sid
26.06.2017
09:57:02
Meh... Okular = 229MBs Atril: 54MBs
Okular pulls up the entire KDE desktop as a dependency.. Atril only takes up ~10 MB on my Fedora 25...

Atril supports a lot of other formats too...

Gwindor
26.06.2017
09:58:19
Why they take so much space?
I can send a .docx version.

Kohane
26.06.2017
09:59:02
I can send a .docx version.
Mmm... no, it's okay, I'll install any and see how it works.

Sid
26.06.2017
09:59:53
Yeah, but you already have Mate installed, isn't it?
Nope, I got the apps on my gnome, MATE apps don't pull desktop dependencies, neither do XFCE apps...

Kohane
26.06.2017
10:00:55
Also, Why the Os Heresy? XD
Because Fedora is too heavy for my netbook.

Sid
26.06.2017
10:01:25
Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:01:54
Because Fedora is too heavy for my netbook.
I can suggest Fedora Minimal with manual postinstall configuration. :)

Kohane
26.06.2017
10:03:04
I can suggest Fedora Minimal with manual postinstall configuration. :)
Where is that ISO? And, does it has a graphical interface to install?

Tobias?
26.06.2017
10:03:30
Kohane
26.06.2017
10:03:38
<shrugs>
Ah, no, my mistake. It uses 54MB but downloads some 8MBs.

Tobias?
26.06.2017
10:03:46
you can select any DE you want - it just needs internet to download them

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Kohane
26.06.2017
10:04:08
you can select any DE you want - it just needs internet to download them
Right. But is it graphical install or command line like Arch?

Sid
26.06.2017
10:04:09
@gwindor , I was reading through your article, I've noticed a few grammatical ..... Let's say faults, do you use xournal, I shall annotate them...

Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:06:55
I don't use xournal, whatever might it be. :)

Sid
26.06.2017
10:07:32
I don't use xournal, whatever might it be. :)
A fantastic tool for annotating PDFs... OK, what do you suggest?

Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:07:50
Giuseppe
26.06.2017
10:08:12
Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:08:22
I suggest nothing.
At least for now. :)

Giuseppe
26.06.2017
10:08:30
I tought that the distro Ca' handle It automatically

Sid
26.06.2017
10:08:39
Kohane
26.06.2017
10:08:50
Okular has also an option for notes but I think they're local, you can't share them or save and send them.

Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:09:10
?
I just finished reviewing a document with some English native people.

Tobias?
26.06.2017
10:11:02
The Intel driver?
Oh no, those should be handled automagically - you don't have a nvidia or amd as dedicated card?

also, which intel hd?

Vitalii
26.06.2017
10:13:13
Tobias?
26.06.2017
10:14:17
Intel integrated
Which? Hd 3000? 4000? 520? 530? 6xx?

Or name your processor

( cat /proc/cpuinfo )

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Kohane
26.06.2017
10:15:32
gui install
Ah, okay. Next time I have problems and find myself in the need of a reinstall I'll search that Fedora Netinstall. Thanks for the suggestion!

Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:47:47
@Kohane, installed the software? :)

Kohane
26.06.2017
10:48:09
Yes. Sorry, I got distracted.

I just realised I can't listen to my music because of a lack of Gstreamer plugins.

Michał
26.06.2017
10:49:57
last weekend I've realized that mocp is not present in Fedora's repos. If anyone is looking for a terminal-based music player which does not require you to set up and configure a server, this is what I recommend

no packages yet, though... maybe this will be my copr initiation project, when I'll have time

norj
26.06.2017
10:50:55
is it good, mocp?

Ghazwan Aliesh
26.06.2017
10:51:43
Intel integrated
Install intel driver installer, it detects your model and install it Note : don't bother trying with Intel 3000, fedora isn't supported.

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ERROR: S client not available

Vitalii
26.06.2017
10:51:48
is it good, mocp?
I use it, cool and useful. Can work with internet radios as well as with audiofiles. And can work on background.

Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:55:12
mocp was pretty nice when I used it.

Michał
26.06.2017
10:55:40
is it good, mocp?
I use spotify most of the time anyway, but for me it is as easy to use as possible with console application, and does the job

Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:55:42
I might consider using it again, since, honestly, I only used mpd + ncmpcpp because visualisation, but now I have cava for it.

Vitalii
26.06.2017
10:56:54
I even used it to listen to the music from vk.com

Anxhelo
26.06.2017
10:58:37
I don't have local music anymore since no need to, I am always connected

Michał
26.06.2017
10:59:33
too bad spotify's client is complete garbage... I would really like them to provide a simple, native client without graphical bells and whistles

Gwindor
26.06.2017
10:59:34
I use Spotify as well. @michalrud, need a Spotify module for polybar?

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Michał
26.06.2017
11:01:48
but setting up the server is half the fun
I think the days where I was setting up my linux box over a whole week to make everything exactly as I wanted are over me... ;) I am officially an old fart; recently a friend of mine invited me for a party where some people in my age are coming over with their own kids.

Gwindor
26.06.2017
11:02:53
can use one ;)
https://pastebin.com/bTN2KnYs

Michał
26.06.2017
11:03:12
Gwindor
26.06.2017
11:03:19
Code of the module above, code of the script below.

Sid
26.06.2017
11:17:43
Speaking of audio, is there a GTK, CSD, podcast catcher and player on Fedora? No rhythmbox, please...

Ghazwan Aliesh
26.06.2017
11:19:03
I think it does the job.

Sid
26.06.2017
11:19:28
Clementine.
For podcast?

Ghazwan Aliesh
26.06.2017
11:20:17
For podcast?
Not sure, but if that feature exists in rhythmbox, Clementine has it

Sid
26.06.2017
11:20:40
Not sure, but if that feature exists in rhythmbox, Clementine has it
I'd prefer a dedicated app, with CSD, though...

Gwindor
26.06.2017
11:29:47
Welcome aboard. :)

Lucélio
26.06.2017
11:30:18
Thanks

Vitalii
26.06.2017
11:47:35
For podcast?
Must be acceptable

Gwindor
26.06.2017
12:29:02
Welcome aboard as well. :)

Ibnu
26.06.2017
12:29:29
thanks :)

Sid
26.06.2017
13:01:47
Must be acceptable
Don't know about catching and downloading them though...

Guys, can I use i3 as an alternate window manager, instead of kwin on KDE Jam, without breaking KDE???? I tried on my KDE neon install, but it didn't work.....

Vitalii
26.06.2017
13:49:53
Yes, I did it, but it is kind of tricky to make it work.

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