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Febyan
29.05.2017
10:15:42
We are friends.No matter about nationality

Sid
29.05.2017
10:16:08
We are friends.No matter about nationality
I was making a joke, but okay.

Pieas
29.05.2017
10:16:13
We all r Friend .. No matter about religion and nationality

We all are humans

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Kohane
29.05.2017
10:17:01
This is getting way offtopic

Febyan
29.05.2017
10:17:13
Pieas
29.05.2017
10:17:25
Hey .. Have anyone tried 26 alpha ??

Fedora 26 alpha ??

Is it on alpha or beta ??

Sid
29.05.2017
10:18:13
This is getting way offtopic
No, as I see Fedora's helping everyone come together...

Kohane
29.05.2017
10:19:56
Yeah, that's true.

Pieas
29.05.2017
10:20:10
is there any way to get system 76 theme on fedora gnome ??

Sid
29.05.2017
10:21:06
Pieas
29.05.2017
10:21:28
Its a theme for ububtu gnone

Gnome

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Sid
29.05.2017
10:21:51
If for gnome, download and unzip the file to ~/.themes directory.

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:22:16
So what attracts you guys to Fedora?
5 month ago I was windows user, I wanted to install Linux cuz a professor in our university told me thar it's the best in servers I tried to install Ubuntu at first (thanks God it couldn't detect my hard drive) As a newbie I couldn't pick a distro so I googled (which distro does Mr Torvalds use), it was fedora workstation according to Quora answers

Pieas
29.05.2017
10:23:39
Sid they have the .deb file .. Not any zip

Kohane
29.05.2017
10:24:12
Its a theme for ububtu gnone
Look up in www.gnome-look.org

Kohane
29.05.2017
10:24:29
You'll find many @Pieas

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:24:36
Hhh, I guess u no longer need a lot of words to convince ppl that fedora is one of the best, this pic is enough

Sid
29.05.2017
10:27:43
Where's this from?

天荣
29.05.2017
10:27:56
Where's this from?
Probably an edit though

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:28:51
But u missed a lot Ubuntu is more popular and user-friendly
Hh I don't care about popularity since fedora has a decent community

Look around u, every most popular thing is the shittiest one

Windows is the most popular OS, does that mean it's good ? No way

Sid
29.05.2017
10:30:21
Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:30:25
Php is probably the most popular programming language, badly designed language with lots of disasters in WordPress

Even Justin bieber is popular

Sid
29.05.2017
10:32:48
Yea, but personally I prefer her partner Selena Gomez...

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Kohane
29.05.2017
10:34:11
天荣
29.05.2017
10:34:33
THANK YOU

Really? I didn't know. I thought Python and Java are.
PHP is *the most* popular for web dev indeed

Enterprise loves Java

And hackers and hobbyists like Python

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:35:32
Really? I didn't know. I thought Python and Java are.
Php is far more popular than python, java maybe is more popular than php but I'm web developer so JSP is old-fashioned choice

BADLY DESIGNED
Don't u think that ?

天荣
29.05.2017
10:37:47
Don't u think that ?
On the contrary, I fully agree with you

I'm just tired of telling people to not go with PHP because it's badly designed and receiving "whatever"s in response.

Kohane
29.05.2017
10:38:16
Python
29.05.2017
10:39:10
Enterprise loves Java
Java is only good in android

Pieas
29.05.2017
10:39:39
Kotlin is new

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:41:00
I'm just tired of telling people to not go with PHP because it's badly designed and receiving "whatever"s in response.
WordPress keeps it alive, clients usually care about the ease of usage more than other features, php can't kiss ror's boots when it come to professional discussion

Java is only good in android
No Java is good everywhere, I could give examples

Packet tracer is written with java

Linked-in use java

天荣
29.05.2017
10:42:47
If you want to develop quickly and shitty webapps, go PHP.

If you want to do it The Right Way ™️ there's no other thing than Django or Ruby on Rails

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Python
29.05.2017
10:49:34
Django isn't good for big webapps on the other hand Facebook was built with php

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:49:45
Big webapps like instgram ?

Pintetest

Michał
29.05.2017
10:51:15
php's strong point is ease of deployment - ftp to your cheap webhost, and practically all of them support php, copy php files, done

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:51:24
Disquse

Michał
29.05.2017
10:51:55
while this approach of having application in a template files isn't the greatest, you can't get easier than that, and yeah, I don't like php as well

天荣
29.05.2017
10:53:59
So what?

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:54:02
php's strong point is ease of deployment - ftp to your cheap webhost, and practically all of them support php, copy php files, done
Python is easier IMHO, u write your website as set of several separated apps with django, in the future if u build another website, just copy your apps code and you are done

天荣
29.05.2017
10:54:20
You can make good things with PHP. That doesn't mean it's always the case. Much on the contrary, actually.

It's VERY HARD to do good stuff on PHP.

(So hard Facebook invented their own language, "Hack", based on PHP, you might know that)

Michał
29.05.2017
10:54:47
Python is easier IMHO, u write your website as set of several separated apps with django, in the future if u build another website, just copy your apps code and you are done
if you are not a programmer, but want to use wordpress, you can install it without any knowledge whatsoever. Is that possible with python?

天荣
29.05.2017
10:55:21
if you are not a programmer, but want to use wordpress, you can install it without any knowledge whatsoever. Is that possible with python?
If you're not a programmer or a sysadmin and want to self-host code, you're putting everyone and yourself at risk.

Michał
29.05.2017
10:56:22
If you're not a programmer or a sysadmin and want to self-host code, you're putting everyone and yourself at risk.
wordpress tries to overcome that with automatical updates... well, you can't win, if you're not a programmer or a sysadmin you won't know about that anyway

天荣
29.05.2017
10:57:26
Even if you're experienced and skilled.

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天荣
29.05.2017
10:57:41
It's a gruyere cheese

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
10:59:44
if you are not a programmer, but want to use wordpress, you can install it without any knowledge whatsoever. Is that possible with python?
Well this maybe surprising but django do have its WordPress, http://mezzanine.jupo.org It uses the same tools which WordPress uses, still WordPress have much more tutorials and communities tho.

Michał
29.05.2017
11:01:38
Well this maybe surprising but django do have its WordPress, http://mezzanine.jupo.org It uses the same tools which WordPress uses, still WordPress have much more tutorials and communities tho.
It's not suprising that there are blog engines built using the most popular frameworks. The problem is, that you need a webserver that supports django (cheap, shared hosting plans usually don't) and need ssh access to install it (more complicated than with php and, as previously, unavailable on cheap shared hosting)

天荣
29.05.2017
11:02:09
Shared web hosting with PHP is a terrible idea in every single possible way.

From security, to performance.

darkabhi@Gnome:~$
29.05.2017
11:03:35
Michał
29.05.2017
11:03:54
yet it is a reality, and we don't really have anything as cost-effective as this (not counting hosted offerings, but then you don't control your data and can't customize enough stuff). Anyway, I think we need a more user-friendly static website generator to solve this problem

darkabhi@Gnome:~$
29.05.2017
11:04:32
天荣
29.05.2017
11:04:46
This is the case with shared PHP web hosting.

I would never ever consider one of those. It's a terrible idea.

Even if I were to use PHP, I'd get a VPS.

darkabhi@Gnome:~$
29.05.2017
11:05:55
Michał
29.05.2017
11:05:58
terrible idea or not, ease of deployment and wide support on cheap hostings are major reasons of php's success

Python
29.05.2017
11:11:26
Haters gonna hate, Facebook use php and they are fine so this argument is pointless

Ghazwan Aliesh
29.05.2017
11:11:59
Facebook has its compiler

Php hip hops or something like that

Built with C++

天荣
29.05.2017
11:13:09

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