I'm amazed i though this did not happen in the First World.

You can understand me Bro!

But Italy is inside the EU, they shouldn't charge you any fees

Try buying in Amazon DE or AmazonUK

But Italy is inside the EU, they shouldn't charge you any fees

But postage costs are high

That high?

WOW

welcome to my country, where buying things online is a luxury

welcome to my country, where buying things online is a luxury

You're not alone. It was the same while I lived in Uruguay.

I would rather buy a product here physically, even though they sell it 100$ or more than the original price, than online where I have to pay 22.4% plus

I would rather buy a product here physically, even though they sell it 100$ or more than the original price, than online where I have to pay 22.4% plus

Same happens in this under developed third world country.

I got my ThinkPad thanks to a friend that traveled to Washington, I waited 5 month until came back T_T, but it was worth.

I have to get things I can buy online from friends or family that live abroad and wait when they visit

only way

anyways

Doh... ?

heh, albania is not europe... my all-european mobile flat rate is not valid in albania ;)

LOL

heh, albania is not europe... my all-european mobile flat rate is not valid in albania ;)

what does that have to do?

He was joking.

Me think.

of course.

I thought so. Mobile stuff is so weird... Germany SIM doesn't work outside Germany but my UK SIM does work anywhere inside and outside UK. And I didn't pay any roaming flat rate!

Hi

Hi Abadi welcome to the group

Tnx

my sim works in .al, but it gets expensive for data roaming. so I don't use it for that. there is wifi everywhere in .al

of course my telco provider is to blame, not albania...

my sim works in .al, but it gets expensive for data roaming. so I don't use it for that. there is wifi everywhere in .al

the wifi part is true, lol

nevermind, will soon have the chance to enjoy it again.

my sim works in .al, but it gets expensive for data roaming. so I don't use it for that. there is wifi everywhere in .al

In Italy a free WiFi hotspot is very rare

Usually they charge you for surf

In Italy a free WiFi hotspot is very rare

Even in McDonalds or other fast food joints?

No, in McDonalds they're asking only for personal data (ID card number, Name, Street, etc.)

What the!

We don't have many fast food in Italy

I was bothered by British hotspots that asks for email, name and ZIP code....

Except for McDonalds,BK and Kebab

But that's over the top! Why they want to know so much to connect to a hotspot?

Even at the international airport of Malpensa the WiFi is not free

That is so weird....

You have to pay like 1€/hour

F**** expensive!

But the parking is more expensive

?

Lucky me I have no car!

LOL

?

Definitely, Italy is not for me. How can I live without wifi?

But that's over the top! Why they want to know so much to connect to a hotspot?

I guess goverment regulations. In China you usually have to log in using a phone number (preferably Chinese one), so any usage which breaks the law can be easily traced back to the person who did it

Ehr Italy is not China

Ehr Italy is not China

Yeah, but AFAIK many other countries are adopting this as well to "fight terrorism"

I know Poland wants to...

I know Poland wants to...

>.>

Damn

Thanks god I live in Albania, lol

I guess goverment regulations. In China you usually have to log in using a phone number (preferably Chinese one), so any usage which breaks the law can be easily traced back to the person who did it

+1

In Spain they require phone number too

here, at those few wifi hotspots that require login, most of them just show up the password at the login page

all you have to do is put that in the box and click login, that's t

while those hotspots that are provided from mobile providers, require you to send an sms to a special number and you get the password for that wifi for the day

because it changes everyday

>.>

Ok - tried to find the source about it and failed, so it might just be FUD

In Spain they require phone number too

Phone number makes sense. But it's so easy to discard a SIM card, that I wouldn't get bothered for that.

Phone number makes sense. But it's so easy to discard a SIM card, that I wouldn't get bothered for that.

In Poland you have to activate disposable SIM cards as well using your ID

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but its just a minor inconvenience if you know your way around

you can buy already activated sim cards on auction sites for small money, in plain sight

so here goes another brilliand goverment idea, straight down the drain ?

you can buy already activated sim cards on auction sites for small money, in plain sight

you can do that here too, or better yet it used to happen some years ago, now people don't mind anymore

someone might go and get free activated numbers using his ID, and hand them out to other people

In Poland you have to activate disposable SIM cards as well using your ID

Not in Germany or UK.

Phone number makes sense. But it's so easy to discard a SIM card, that I wouldn't get bothered for that.

In Spain all SIM card issuances must be accompanied by your DNI

(national document number ID)

And no, there is absolutely no way to buy a SIM card without disclosing PII

WOW

Now that's tracking.

Yep

same here

but iirc sims can be activated via a message

but if they're not registered it automatically gets disabled after 6 months

so you can keep your security kinda

kinda? that doesn't sound like keeping anything

well yea I live in a country with a small population

You still can buy a sim card "under the bridge" here.

But thats illegal.

And you better to buy a phone for it over internet from Ali Express, and not use it with any other sim card to prevent correlation.

Thinkpads can be very cheap and they're good indeed. And you can install any Linux you like there

Exactly I have several of them

Thinkpads can be very cheap and they're good indeed. And you can install any Linux you like there

I wish they were.

I wish they were.

Where are you from

Where are you from

Siberia.

Siberia.

Oh ok

Thinkpads can be very cheap and they're good indeed. And you can install any Linux you like there

I can't wait for the x220 and t420 to get libreboot

I think I never even saw a Thinkpad with my own eyes.

Oh wow