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Gwindor
13.04.2017
05:29:10
Welcome aboard.

Rio
13.04.2017
05:29:30
My friends call me @pionen
Then, thank you very much @pionen

(■_■¬)
13.04.2017
05:29:40
Giuseppe
13.04.2017
06:24:57
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Dev
13.04.2017
06:30:22
Hello

Gwindor
13.04.2017
06:30:23
But idk, dd isn't the best way of speed measuring, as for me.

Hello
Afternoon. :)

Dev
13.04.2017
06:30:48
Jeshwanth
13.04.2017
06:31:51
But idk, dd isn't the best way of speed measuring, as for me.
Yes, I use dd command.. so, I have one more question here.. for some pendrive it gives different speed and for some it is different speed.. I feel it also matters on how the buffers managed in the firmware of the flash drive..

Isn't it ?

Gwindor
13.04.2017
06:32:38
Everything matters.

Jeshwanth
13.04.2017
06:33:32
Yes, so typically the ideal way of measuring the USB speed any recommendation ?

(■_■¬)
13.04.2017
06:33:45
Isn't it ?
https://eklitzke.org/efficient-file-copying-on-linux

Jobava
13.04.2017
07:06:49
are you aware of a shell that gives better globbing support than say, bash?

for example, I'd like to be able to run a command like: echo "[1-9]-[A-Z]-{bar,baz}" and for the output to be the combination of echo commands that match those patterns

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Jobava
13.04.2017
07:08:45
this is the globbing behaviour of curl

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:09:31
Tough i only know zsh has much better support for anything (and oh-my-zsh) so

Michał
13.04.2017
07:09:41
fish ftw

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:12:10
fish ftw
Incompatible with a ton of scripts and many standards.

Michał
13.04.2017
07:13:01
Incompatible with a ton of scripts and many standards.
Indeed. And so pleasant to use that I'm willing to ignore these shortcomings ;)

Jobava
13.04.2017
07:13:04
right now, what I do is: for bla in $(seq 1 9); do for blabla in $(echo {a..z}); do echo "${bla}-${blabla}"; done; done ...

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:13:29
Indeed. And so pleasant to use that I'm willing to ignore these shortcomings ;)
I actually work with my shell daily and need it to be standards-compatible across a ton of servers, my own laptop and i want to be able to use common bash scripts to get stuff done

All of which fish would fail at quite horribly

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:15:13
Ugh.

Michał
13.04.2017
07:15:16
Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:15:20
#!/bin/sh

#!/bin/sh
Won't it solve all the problems with scripts, @Wolfshappen?

Michał
13.04.2017
07:15:46
also, the root of it all: > using shell for any scripting besides the most basic one

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:17:09
Won't it solve all the problems with scripts, @Wolfshappen?
Not if you execute them from fish cause it doesnt support env properly

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:17:50
Ugh, but shebang...
calling sh with a broken env?

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Michał
13.04.2017
07:18:09
Not if you execute them from fish cause it doesnt support env properly
Executing a bash script with #! in fish will make it execute under bash

What? Ever heard of Automation?
Ever heard of Python or Perl?

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:18:28
calling sh with a broken env?
It is so bad broken?

:(

Michał
13.04.2017
07:19:35
bash scripting is fine until some point, where you need to get through unbelieveable hoops to get basic stuff working, which are trivial in python or perl or whatever do you like to use

Wololo
13.04.2017
07:19:41
rip

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:27:34
Ever heard of Python or Perl?
For Backups with Duplicity, Mysql Crons, Fixing File Permissions, maintaining a production env copy thats not git tracked, fixing files that arent git tracked.... why would i add the whole python env just for that?

Python is a ton of problems combined, still has no working package manager and for me is a very unliked language.

Michał
13.04.2017
07:28:49
For Backups with Duplicity, Mysql Crons, Fixing File Permissions, maintaining a production env copy thats not git tracked, fixing files that arent git tracked.... why would i add the whole python env just for that?
Perfectly fine if those are simple scripts, like call this command, if it fails then send an email else compress the artifacts and send them away and that's it

but when some more complicated stuff enters the stage, like hashmaps and whatnot, then I would avoid it; and Python was just an example, there are many other languages that would do the job

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:29:38
bash scripting is fine until some point, where you need to get through unbelieveable hoops to get basic stuff working, which are trivial in python or perl or whatever do you like to use
If your scripting needs you to execute python scripts doing large data transfers and processing somethings fish-y about your setup

Michał
13.04.2017
07:30:17
If your scripting needs you to execute python scripts doing large data transfers and processing somethings fish-y about your setup
It doesn't, but if it would, then I wouldn't consider bash as a good solution to that problem

I've never said that bash scripting is bad, I think bash is bad for complicated scripts (requiring which, indeed, may indicate a bigger problem)

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:30:55
It doesn't, but if it would, then I wouldn't consider bash as a good solution to that problem
Same. But for most Tasks that require little intervention in an interactive terminal via screen, zsh.

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:39:05
Daym, why Telegram doesn't save Proxy settings?

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:39:28
Daym, why Telegram doesn't save Proxy settings?
It uses the System Proxy doesnt it?

Michał
13.04.2017
07:39:32
Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:39:35
It does for me
When I switch it off, it doesn't save it. :<

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Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:41:02
Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:41:11
Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:41:14
If Stable - report a bug

Michał
13.04.2017
07:41:17
When I switch it off, it doesn't save it. :<
No idea why. Maybe try Qutegram or some other telegram clients? (Qutegram didn't want my proxy settings at all, though)

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:41:49
Last time I tried it, it didn't support supergroups.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:42:07
No idea why. Maybe try Qutegram or some other telegram clients? (Qutegram didn't want my proxy settings at all, though)
If you want to have a terrible experience. Is Qutegram still such a buggy stuck pos?

Michał
13.04.2017
07:42:08
no idea

doesn't work for me :D

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:42:52
Why do you recommend Things that dont even work for you

Michał
13.04.2017
07:43:17
I recommend to check if it works better, I'm not saying it will work better.

it's not like checking it out is such a big investition

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:44:20
Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:44:20


Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:44:33
Plus i dont trust most of its builds out there

Why do you proxy tg

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:45:05
Why do you proxy tg
Because intranet.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
07:45:23
Because intranet.
That allows proxies?

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:45:58
That allows proxies?
University intranet. That has that way of sharing internet via wifi for students.

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Michał
13.04.2017
07:46:12
@gwindor maybe check log.txt in ~/.TelegramDesktop

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:47:06
I think it just deletes settings from config the second I disable proxy usage.

Michał
13.04.2017
07:49:06
I think it just deletes settings from config the second I disable proxy usage.
Yeah, I think it works that way. I never disable it, so I never noticed this issue

Michał
13.04.2017
07:49:43
do you have a socks proxy?

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:50:04
No.

Well, I do, that's my home.

But to connect to it, i have to connect to Internet first.

Via university proxy.

:D

Michał
13.04.2017
07:51:12
I've started using tsocks recently for apps which have problems with proxies, for some it works better than the others, still an interesting option

Gwindor
13.04.2017
07:51:44
Only time I need to use HTTP proxy is when I am in university.

Michał
13.04.2017
07:57:21
Telegram seems to read its option from ~/.TelegramDesktop, maybe it's possible to switch the configuration directories?

*sm1Ly
13.04.2017
08:12:33
symlink?

xD

Gwindor
13.04.2017
09:51:59
Mine is located at ~/.local/share/TelegramDesktop

Michał
13.04.2017
10:02:31
Ugh, to what?
To switch it that way, that you can select whether you'd like to start telegram with or without the proxy

Ghazwan Aliesh
13.04.2017
11:27:11
Guys, I was installing pycharm, I followed a tutorial and they installed soms unofficial repository, is that dangerous or harmful for the OS ?

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