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天荣
13.04.2017
11:33:46
Not necessarily.

But third party repositories can definitely contain malware.

Unlikely if it's the official PyCharm repository from Jetbrains

Otherwise you're going to have to trust the repository maintainer.

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Ghazwan Aliesh
13.04.2017
11:36:30
Unlikely if it's the official PyCharm repository from Jetbrains
It's the Russian repository, thanks for ur answer

Rudiansyah
13.04.2017
12:00:21
Hi guys, I am sorry to bother you again. I have lil trouble with partitions in Fedora. What's the difference between ext2, ext3, and ext4, and which one should I use?

Michał
13.04.2017
12:01:03
in general IMHO ext4 is a good choice

Rudiansyah
13.04.2017
12:06:10
Nick
13.04.2017
12:09:52
partitions mounted in like /boot, don't need journaling for example So you can choose ext2 Ext4 is also very good

Rudiansyah
13.04.2017
12:13:26
Yes I think I'll go with the ext4, I did a lil googling, it seems ext4 is the newest file system. I wasnt so sure, thank you guys.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
13:01:24
xfs will replace ext4 in all rhel based distros soon™ and ext4 in fedo is only there for compatability now

i.e. centos, fedora server and rhel set it as default on auto install

ext4 will remain supported for a ton of time but xfs will be the main fs everyone gets

langdon
13.04.2017
14:19:48
isn't rhel-7 xfs by default?

King's
13.04.2017
14:26:31
oh.....yeah, that's already happen...

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Nick
13.04.2017
15:09:37
btrfs!

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:11:53
btrfs!
Time to bug: 5 Seconds with Fuzzy Lop

Vs ext4: 2 Hours and equal with zfs (xfs not tested in the mentioned benchmarl)

Why xfs is better than ext4?
Battletested more than ext4, Ability to live resize it up (but not down), Supposed to be more robust in case of Shutdown and it is used by tons of poeple that have a ton of important data to store so it gets fixes and enhancements from these companies

The xfsgrow compatibility also extends to lvm2 volume groups - live add 500 drives and grow xfs by the amount of space added while mounted

The xfsgrow compatibility also extends to lvm2 volume groups - live add 500 drives and grow xfs by the amount of space added while mounted
(A Server usecase sure, but xfs to be able to handle this so graceful is amazing and a solid show of just how stable it is)

Agus
13.04.2017
15:18:01
What is the best fs for a SSD?

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:18:48
Agus
13.04.2017
15:18:58
I have ext4 right now.

Is xfs better or worse in any way?

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:19:28
It survives a Crash better but else, not really

Agus
13.04.2017
15:19:38
Oh, ok, then.

I'll just continue using ext4.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:19:44
It has its general advantages but not enough to justify reinstalling

Unless you reinstall aynway

then go xfs

Agus
13.04.2017
15:20:07
When I update to Fedora 26 I'll choose xfs.

Nick
13.04.2017
15:20:21
What is the best fs for a SSD?
None You should just mount (write in /etc/fstab) with "discard" and "noatime"

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Nick
13.04.2017
15:20:36
Wut

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:20:39
Modern ssds have Write Lifetime beyond good and bad

Thats an old Kernel tough

fox.py
13.04.2017
15:21:51
Linux 2...

Agus
13.04.2017
15:21:54
Wut
discard isn't recommended anymore.

It's better to run fstrim once a week.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:22:12
Linux 2...
ext4 is stuck since then mostly

xfs gets improved more and more

fox.py
13.04.2017
15:22:21
Also that's just read.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:22:36
meanwhile btrfs cant even show the total exact used space

セイバー
13.04.2017
15:22:41
fox.py
13.04.2017
15:22:53
What about write/random read/random write?

Nick
13.04.2017
15:23:02
Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:23:31
What about write/random read/random write?
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=4fs-linux-4649&num=2

fox.py
13.04.2017
15:23:32


Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:23:46
Old too



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Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:24:24
Ignore the F2FS Meme and keep in Mind btrfs is COW - Crash and Data is lost.

Agus
13.04.2017
15:24:53
What is it for?
It tells the SSD which blocks are not used anymore.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:25:06
(Thats why btrfs has so massive Sqlite bench Results)

Agus
13.04.2017
15:25:06
So it knows it can write to those blocks.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:25:31
Which modern SSDs do themselves nowadays and the kernel and fedora

afaik

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

fox.py
13.04.2017
15:26:12
Always thought ext4 is best user fs ever.

Tobias?
13.04.2017
15:26:50
As said, the "Big Guys" Will replace it everywhere quite soon

And ext4's high Adoption is mostly to it being inbuilt to the kernel in the early days as xfs wasnt upstream code

Now that everything ships xfs

Kohane
13.04.2017
16:41:49
Hi @turing_complete ! Welcome aboard

Red_hat
13.04.2017
16:45:59
How are you friends

Kohane
13.04.2017
17:06:47
I'm fine. And you?

(■_■¬)
13.04.2017
17:11:21
天荣
13.04.2017
17:11:34
what's syntastic?

Agus
13.04.2017
17:11:36
What is all that?

I use Vim right now.

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Agus
13.04.2017
17:11:48
So I'd like to know.

Nick
13.04.2017
17:14:08
No thanks, to green for production.
Doesn't btrfs stable enough?

Mr pigeon :3

Opensuse uses it by default

Ghazwan Aliesh
13.04.2017
17:16:51
Use Vim+vimplug+syntastic+VimYouCompleteMe all you need to code. :^)
Thanks, I'd love to try VIM but pycharm has been already installed successfully

(■_■¬)
13.04.2017
17:17:57
Doesn't btrfs stable enough?
Tobias?: meanwhile btrfs cant even show the total exact used space

what's syntastic?
https://github.com/vim-syntastic/syntastic

Nick
13.04.2017
17:20:04
Tobias?: meanwhile btrfs cant even show the total exact used space
Can't argue with that, I didn't​ use it. But it seems btrfs is good enough to use it. Like zfs on Linux One day I'll try both...

(■_■¬)
13.04.2017
17:21:00
Can't argue with that, I didn't​ use it. But it seems btrfs is good enough to use it. Like zfs on Linux One day I'll try both...
I have seen some complaints in some forum related to crash and data lost. So for me is not thanks by the moment.

So I'd like to know.
http://liuchengxu.org/posts/use-vim-as-a-python-ide/

Eduard
13.04.2017
17:21:31
(■_■¬)
13.04.2017
17:22:32
Eduard
13.04.2017
17:23:03
Thanks, I'd love to try VIM but pycharm has been already installed successfully
Ninja-ide is pretty good for python, but I code for sysadmin, not for system creation, so big IDEs are too much for my work

Yeap.
Cool! I will try it today!

The readme.MD describe it like THE tool

(■_■¬)
13.04.2017
17:24:12
Cool! I will try it today!
What is it not packaged is YCM.

Eduard
13.04.2017
17:25:01
Oh, but that one is for auto-completion, no?

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