What if they learned LibreOffice and they were only offered MS Office jobs?

They would stay poor...

@x3mboy In Uruguay, Microsoft tried to push their system but failed because it ran too slow and many times hadn't the necessary tools. Office and so is adult's stuff. On children/educational areas Microsoft isn't really strong.

microsoft office is even being taught all the way from elementary school, though. at least where i live

microsoft office is even being taught all the way from elementary school, though. at least where i live

Where I live it depends on the school

also Microsoft is helpful enough to provide ms office for free in academia, so you kinda have no reason to try something else at home

microsoft office is even being taught all the way from elementary school, though. at least where i live

May I ask where do you live?

finland

finland

You've got those EU-sponsored computer classroom?

seem more like microsoft-sponsored, hah

Good evening from Egypt dears, i want to know during partioning.. Should i make the partion of my personal data EXT4 & Unmounted??

Best LaTeX editor, anybody? (please reply to me directly, so I get notified)

I went with texstudio, ty all

some schools VERY rarely use ubuntu on their computers, though

Good evening from Egypt dears, i want to know during partioning.. Should i make the partion of my personal data EXT4 & Unmounted??

That depends if you already have a home partition or not.

Good evening from Egypt dears, i want to know during partioning.. Should i make the partion of my personal data EXT4 & Unmounted??

i would do that, but it probably comes down to personal preference

some schools VERY rarely use ubuntu on their computers, though

I booted from USB to circumvent the internet censorship in classroom :D that convinced some people to try that too

some schools VERY rarely use ubuntu on their computers, though

In Germany there's a lot of Linux in schools and universities. EG in Frankfurt they use the last Fedora version and CentOS for servers. So it's not only poors/rich thing .

Nowadays too with the likes of Jupyter, you can do amazing things with data and visualisations, without much of a skills barrier

That depends if you already have a home partition or not.

Yea i have separated partion for home and another for root

In Germany there's a lot of Linux in schools and universities. EG in Frankfurt they use the last Fedora version and CentOS for servers. So it's not only poors/rich thing .

i didn't say anything about it being related to money. it could be, but it could also be because linus torvalds is finnish and he made "linux" heh

Yea i have separated partion for home and another for root

Then yes. Choose that previous home partition, mark it as home without formatting.

In Germany there's a lot of Linux in schools and universities. EG in Frankfurt they use the last Fedora version and CentOS for servers. So it's not only poors/rich thing .

I wanna live there!

i didn't say anything about it being related to money. it could be, but it could also be because linus torvalds is finnish and he made "linux" heh

Weren't you saying that most computers in schools have MS installed? Or did I get lost in the conversation?

Then yes. Choose that previous home partition, mark it as home without formatting.

I mean that the partition of my personal dataaa must be EXT4 OR Unmounted????

I think the main issue with schools is, that EU is (or at least was a few years ago) providing whole classroom setups with Windows, one Domain Controller for a teacher and whatnot, it came nicely configured so internet access was monitored and teacher could check any of the classrooms computers from his/her computer, so I can't really blame them on not throwing this all away and redoing it from scratch using Linux

Weren't you saying that most computers in schools have MS installed? Or did I get lost in the conversation?

I guess in other countries it is not a thing. MS is dominating

I mean that the partition of my personal dataaa must be EXT4 OR Unmounted????

The partition is already unmounted, otherwise you can't install. The file type (ext3, ext4, etc) remains the same because you must not format it.

and I don't know whether EU can be blamed either, as I guess they just did a call for bids for "classroom setup with that and that features for the teacher" and well, MS won

MS won't win untill UNIX exists!

I think the main issue with schools is, that EU is (or at least was a few years ago) providing whole classroom setups with Windows, one Domain Controller for a teacher and whatnot, it came nicely configured so internet access was monitored and teacher could check any of the classrooms computers from his/her computer, so I can't really blame them on not throwing this all away and redoing it from scratch using Linux

They don't need to do it from scratch. That system exists in Linux for years. They didn't search maybe.

They don't need to do it from scratch. That system exists in Linux for years. They didn't search maybe.

Question is, they are paid less than average wage and this is already set up, why should they bother

I guess in other countries it is not a thing. MS is dominating

I guess it depends on the country....

I guess it depends on the country....

You are right

I mean, I would probably do that on their place

but they are already not motivated enough so, yeah

Question is, they are paid less than average wage and this is already set up, why should they bother

Yes, I understand. I'm just saying that this does exist. It was in use since the beginning of the OLPC project because many unruly children were watching porn instead of following the lesson in classroom.

Weren't you saying that most computers in schools have MS installed? Or did I get lost in the conversation?

oh, i did say that but i also meant that its not related to money that some computers in schools also run ubuntu or some other distro

oh, i did say that but i also meant that its not related to money that some computers in schools also run ubuntu or some other distro

Ah, okay, now is clearer. With all the people talking at the same time I get lost at times, haha

understandable

microsoft office is even being taught all the way from elementary school, though. at least where i live

Where I live depends, public schools that can teach computing (there is just a few, too few) teach libreoffice with Canaima, private schools normally teach MS

@bmgxc9 I really like texstudio.

anybody here

No, only 688 members :P

No, only 688 members :P

I need a little help. Now I'm using livecd, I've copied the / partition to another location, now I need to recognize it using livecd, retrieve grub. I've never done this before.

I won't be able to help I'm afraid :P

I won't be able to help I'm afraid :P

I'm already very fucked up, do not be afraid. Another member, help me. I pay a little coffe.

What was exactly what you need?

I'm not sure to understand the issue

I'm not sure to understand the issue

I need to recover the grub, because it does not leave the grub rescue screen at boot. So, I guess I need to get it back.

Hi Paulo Henrique, you can try following this steps: https://youtu.be/eBfviLoKGa0 Is a good start point if you need to recover/reinstall grub

Hi Paulo Henrique, you can try following this steps: https://youtu.be/eBfviLoKGa0 Is a good start point if you need to recover/reinstall grub

I'm trying but the comand chroot don't exist

failed to run comand /bin/bash no such file or directory

English only, please. You can make your questions in Spanish over the Fedora Spanish group @fedoraes

Sorry , i send to the mistaken fedora group

Where I live depends, public schools that can teach computing (there is just a few, too few) teach libreoffice with Canaima, private schools normally teach MS

In Uruguay, private schools and universities use MacOS.

Sorry , i send to the mistaken fedora group

No problem

I need a little help. Now I'm using livecd, I've copied the / partition to another location, now I need to recognize it using livecd, retrieve grub. I've never done this before.

Why did you copied your root partition somewhere else? Can't you just make a fresh install?

How did you solve it? What was the problem to begin with?

I'm trying but the comand chroot don't exist

how the fuck does chroot not exist

LOL

I'm trying to sign the contributor agreement on admin.fedoraproject.org, but its status remains "Not Signed"

I'm trying to sign the contributor agreement on admin.fedoraproject.org, but its status remains "Not Signed"

Give it some minutes.

some pixies need to check my identity?

ERROR: S client not available

No, it's just that sometimes it takes a time.

okay

You can try closing the tab and opening it again, if you're in a hurry

done, and no change.

Hi Virus

Is it your birthday?

done, and no change.

Mmmm.... If in a while there's no change try again or contact someone from Infraestructure.

oh, there's a line I hadn't noticed before : We are processing your FPCA application, please watch for an email from us with the status.

maybe some pixies need to check my application after all

Is it your birthday?

his birthday is everyday

his birthday is everyday

That's inconvenient. I can't give brithday gifts every day.

someone might know, how do i run slightly more demanding games on fedora on an AMD card? i used manjaro and they worked out of the box just fine. with fedora however i cant find proprietary ATI drivers (catalyst i guess) in the repos and the default free drivers cant run any games except for simple ones such as VVVVVV.

someone might know, how do i run slightly more demanding games on fedora on an AMD card? i used manjaro and they worked out of the box just fine. with fedora however i cant find proprietary ATI drivers (catalyst i guess) in the repos and the default free drivers cant run any games except for simple ones such as VVVVVV.

Classic AMD

You'll need to install third party repositories I guess

I'm going a little off-topic, but i found this interesting and "shareable"

https://www.facebook.com/simonsinek/videos/10154844919181499/

Yes, is a facebook video

And the youtube version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU

done, and no change.

Flush the Web Browser cache.

"flush" sounds funny....

"flush" sounds funny....

man sync

Hi guys! Does anyone knows if Opera browser, the current version, give java support?

man sync

Uh?

Hi guys! Does anyone knows if Opera browser, the current version, give java support?

Java support? What for?

like applets?

I use it from time to time so I can find out, if you want

Hi Vladimir welcome to the group

Java support? What for?

Like when you install icedtea to enable java on any other browsers, this kind of thinks

like applets?

Do you have installed java-1.8.0-openjdk.x86_64 : OpenJDK Runtime Environment and icedtea-web?

i didnt ask the q