My bad.

In the past I used to play some only games that relied on javaws so openjdk solved it, bu later I learnt that icedtea-web handles it inside the browser.

Hi guys! Does anyone knows if Opera browser, the current version, give java support?

Do you have installed java-1.8.0-openjdk.x86_64 : OpenJDK Runtime Environment and icedtea-web?, of firefox these packages make the trick.

Not sure if it work the same way on Opera. I have never used Opera.

Do you have installed java-1.8.0-openjdk.x86_64 : OpenJDK Runtime Environment and icedtea-web?

not the IcedTea, just the Oracle pack...

In Firefox, everything is ok, by the way...

not the IcedTea, just the Oracle pack...

Well, before knowing about openjdk and icedtea I used to use the package from oracle, if-not-true-then-false has a guide on how to install it and link the plugin so the Web browser que use it. But I'm no sure if it will work with Opera.

Well, before knowing about openjdk and icedtea I used to use the package from oracle, if-not-true-then-false has a guide on how to install it and link the plugin so the Web browser que use it. But I'm no sure if it will work with Opera.

I think I'll give a shot on IcedTea, later I post the results

You'll need to install third party repositories I guess

even with rpmfusion i have no idea how to make this shit work. this is the biggest reason i wanna switch from fedora on my laptop

Yes, is a facebook video

pretty sure you can youtube-dl it so doesnt really matter

even with rpmfusion i have no idea how to make this shit work. this is the biggest reason i wanna switch from fedora on my laptop

Did you try Postinstallerf? It usually installs automathically and correctly any drivers you need.

Or Korora

I think it was Korora?

A Fedora spin with non free stuff

Also please don't use Manjaro. Use Antergos.

antergos and manjaro are different things antergos is basically an installer and manjaro is trying to be more of an user friendly arch

i used manjaro because i thought it wouldnt break. i was wrong, it did lol

I'm fully aware what both are and this is why I don't recommend it.

Use Antergos.

Seriously.

Also please don't use Manjaro. Use Antergos.

Why not Manjaro? What's wrong with it?

Why not Manjaro? What's wrong with it?

Manjaro lags behind Arch BADLY regarding updates

I see literally no reason to use it.

Antergos on the other hand is pure Arch with a few cool defaults set.

Ah. I see

Ah

For a more barebones experience you can also try Arch anywhere

Or even install it CLI from Antergos.

Yeah, but isn't easy to install. From what I've been told

Arch I mean

its easy, just kinda tedious

That's why Antergos exists.

But besides the updates. Is there anything else that you find that is wrong?

Installing it is dead easy.

like idk, id just prefer a gui. it feels more safe.

Also "Arch anywhere" is a distribution.

But besides the updates. Is there anything else that you find that is wrong?

Lots of duplicated work. Also the AUR is hit or miss which is kind of the main selling point of Arch...

my problem with arch is that it can break due to some update

my problem with arch is that it can break due to some update

Fedora does break sometimes.

If you know what you're doing, on Arch, it will almost never break.

I have used it for more than 4 years now.

Fedora does break sometimes.

fedora only broke for me when i fooled around with proprietary nvidia drivers. other than that it doesnt break

If you know what you're doing, on Arch, it will almost never break.

so just never update? hah

so just never update? hah

Ugh.

I have my systems as up to date as possible.

how do you not break arch theb. updates break it

haha, what a funny pack.

You installing Nvidia drivers

?

ya

Lots of duplicated work. Also the AUR is hit or miss which is kind of the main selling point of Arch...

Hit or miss? What does it means?

Hit or miss? What does it means?

It means it works only sometimes.

Fedora does break sometimes.

Last time Fedora broke in a computer of mine was years ago. Just saying.

Last time Fedora broke in a computer of mine was years ago. Just saying.

I never had a broken Arch

It means it works only sometimes.

Ah. Yes, I noticed that. I needed some Gimp plugins that come with Fedora but not Manjaro and I had to use AUR. It never worked.

Except when I broke it myself.

I find Fedora breaks just as often as Arch.

That is all I'm saying

seriously though, does fedora have a feature like checkinstall or pkgbuilds?

theyre almost essential

Why do you find them essential? What those feature do?

it enables you to easier install compiled software

normally you would do make install (i dont know if there are alternatives) which is messy and potentially dangerous, but with checkinstall and pkgbuilds you can install the compiled software as a package which means that you can control it better, such as easily uninstall it

How about not installing untracked software?

ERROR: S client not available

I refuse to install something not handled by a package manager with update capabilities.

How about not installing untracked software?

this is one of the things that turn windows users away from gnu/linux dude

i dont like your way of thinking.

i dont like your way of thinking.

That's OK.

I don't like installing untracked software.

telegram is packaged for pretty much no distro except solus.

It makes a gigantic mess.

telegram is packaged for pretty much no distro except solus.

Arch has it.

Ubuntu has it.

I don't like installing untracked software.

of course, i dont want to either. checkinstall fixes this problem

Arch has it.

no. AUR has it, in the form of a PKGBUILD which is what i was talking about

its not an official package

But it is tracked.

Ubuntu has it.

surprising, but nice. my friend couldnt install it on ubuntu.

And managed by a package manager.

And managed by a package manager.

yeah that is kind of the point of checkinstall and pkgbuilds lol

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How about not installing untracked software?

I refuse to install something not handled by a package manager with update capabilities.

Then how can you dislike my way of thinking?

I don't understand.

AUR is just another repository. Nothing more.

Like PPAs and Fedora Copr.

I refuse to install something not handled by a package manager with update capabilities.

Agree.

this is one of the things that turn windows users away from gnu/linux dude

I don't think most of Windows users can actually pick out one kind of installation from another.

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not an official package. youre relying on 3rd parties and i dont like that.

Then how can you dislike my way of thinking?

idk bro

not an official package. youre relying on 3rd parties and i dont like that.

AUR is a damn third party...

Every windows user regularly installs third party executables.

I refuse to install something not handled by a package manager with update capabilities.

What about Nvidia propietary driver?

What about Nvidia propietary driver?

Arch repos. Fedora repos. Ubuntu repos. Debian repos. What about it?

I don't understand your question.