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26.10.2018
14:51:21
The machine is 32-bit.

fox.py
26.10.2018
14:51:22
They are the usual 18650's.

Tobias?
26.10.2018
14:51:26
Anxhelo
26.10.2018
14:51:42
Also with t420 you can just replace the cells.
Yeah I know, but I need a completely new one

Google
@
26.10.2018
14:51:43
I'm on Fedora KDE

Spins

Vitaly
26.10.2018
14:51:51
Who says? Their site has 32-bit isos for every release.
Fedora developers. 32 bit version has no maintainers and testers.

Anxhelo
26.10.2018
14:51:58
My old one wasn't a 9 cell

Vitaly
26.10.2018
14:52:16
The machine is 32-bit.
What exactly CPU? Intel Atom?

Tobias?
26.10.2018
14:53:00
Who says? Their site has 32-bit isos for every release.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels

So yeah, 32 bit gets zero developer attention with a miniscule userbase.

Vitaly
26.10.2018
14:54:23
No, it's a pentium
What Pentium? Most of them support x86_64, so you must switch to x86_64 version of Fedora.

@
26.10.2018
14:54:42
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels
Damn, that's fine though, it's just a backup/extra machine. I had Parrot Home on it earlier. But it broke after an upgrade and I thought why not distrohop ;)

Vitaly
26.10.2018
14:55:22
No, it's a 32-bit processor
Run cat /proc/cpuinfo | fpaste and show us link

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26.10.2018
14:55:35
Maybe I'll just put Arch-32 on it

Vitaly
26.10.2018
14:55:53
Maybe I'll just put Arch-32 on it
Arch will shut down 32-bit arch too soon.

Tobias?
26.10.2018
14:56:24
Arch will shut down 32-bit arch too soon.
Already has, arch-32 is a shoddily maintained fork.

@
26.10.2018
14:56:26
Arch will shut down 32-bit arch too soon.
No, Arch-32 is a non-official separate distro. Arch had shutdown 32-bit support a while ago

Vitaly
26.10.2018
14:56:44
All major distributions will stop i686 support.

@
26.10.2018
14:56:50
It's a pentium(R) Dual-core E5300 @ 2.60GHz

Tobias?
26.10.2018
14:56:54
Maybe I'll just put Arch-32 on it
Look, the kernel developers, the actual linux kernel ones, have stopped caring about 32 bit. The arch is ancient, noone is fixing things for it anymore.

Vitaly
26.10.2018
14:57:27
https://ark.intel.com/products/35300/Intel-Pentium-Processor-E5300-2M-Cache-2-60-GHz-800-MHz-FSB-

Tobias?
26.10.2018
14:57:44
Everyone wants to move onto 64 bit and even those that are made for older machines are considering only i686

@
26.10.2018
14:57:44
I know it guys, it's just an extra WORKING computer that I have lying around that I use as a backup for internet browsing and what not if my laptop is down or not with me at the moment

@
26.10.2018
14:58:29
But it doesn't boot a 64-bit live USB

Tobias?
26.10.2018
15:06:35
But it doesn't boot a 64-bit live USB
Have you written it with Fedora Media Writer and tried different usbs?

If the cpu states 64 bit support it has 64 bit support.

@
26.10.2018
15:07:00
Yes, not only Fedora, I tried other distros as well

I use either Etcher or dd

Vitaly
26.10.2018
15:07:58
I use either Etcher or dd
Use Fedora Media Writer.

@
26.10.2018
15:09:31
okay

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Ilya
26.10.2018
15:13:23
Use Fedora Media Writer.
what's wrong with dd?

cocoa
26.10.2018
15:14:00
what's wrong with dd?
Dunno, but even I couldn't burn fedora with dd

Ilya
26.10.2018
15:16:14
Kohane
26.10.2018
15:16:51
Still, might break something without understanding the packages
How? Dependencies are resolved by themselves. If you see that something in your core desktop is going to be deleted, you simply type no.

worked for me for every iso
It didn't for me, and a couple of times destroyed my memories. Besides, why using something else when you already have a native app?

Ilya
26.10.2018
15:18:29
dd is also native

fedora writer isn't

and if you want to burn a ubuntu or manjaro...

Kohane
26.10.2018
15:19:16
Once I removed baloo because it keep crashing and I don't know wtf it is. And dnf took almost the entire DE as dependencies and removed them because I didn't check the messages?
Well, that's your fault. You should read first before accepting. It's like signing a contract, you know? Read the small letter first. ?

fedora writer isn't
It is to Fedora. And we're using Fedora.

and if you want to burn a ubuntu or manjaro...
I used Fedora Media Writer as well. What else?

Tobias?
26.10.2018
15:20:22
Ilya
26.10.2018
15:20:31
nothing, dd is a simple command line tool that works for me

Mattia
26.10.2018
15:20:49
I use dd too.

Kohane
26.10.2018
15:21:29
Why people is so allergic to read?

Hourglass
26.10.2018
15:22:18
Why people is so allergic to read?
It takes time and patience. I'm practicing now?

小七海
26.10.2018
15:23:43
I would say for most of the softwares/tools, manpages are easy to read already

Hourglass
26.10.2018
15:24:33
I would say for most of the softwares/tools, manpages are easy to read already
Not really, I had a hard time to understand, for example, man find

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小七海
26.10.2018
15:25:10
Simplify manpages means hiding more information

Hourglass
26.10.2018
15:26:11
https://alvinalexander.com/unix/edu/examples/find.shtml This saved me. Example is the best way to explain a thing.

小七海
26.10.2018
15:27:08
Not really, I had a hard time to understand, for example, man find
I agree that some tools like find, awk, grep are too complex to use

Kohane
26.10.2018
15:27:39
It takes time and patience. I'm practicing now?
It doesn't. A short text like a list of updates should be read in a few seconds.

I mean, it's not like you're reading War & Peace by Tolstoi, it's a few lines text in a console.

小七海
26.10.2018
15:28:38
It is ok for me to read the manpages and search by key words use /, ?

Hourglass
26.10.2018
15:29:23
It doesn't. A short text like a list of updates should be read in a few seconds.
That's before you make the decision of tldr. After you made the tldr dicision, it doesn't matter how easy to understand the document is. And I feel that's one of my problem.

Kohane
26.10.2018
15:30:18
Hourglass
26.10.2018
15:31:48
Abhay.P.Nair
26.10.2018
16:02:02
dnf search phpmyadmin, or place it manually into your project.
Thanks...everything now works fine...I have to say...minimal kde on fedora give similar experience as kde neon...smooth??

@
26.10.2018
17:08:51
It support x86_64.
Surprisingly it booted a 64-bit OS this time. Thanks for clarifying :)

spookySun
26.10.2018
18:21:26
When'll Fedora 29 go stable?

@
26.10.2018
18:22:25
restorecon -R /home
After re-installation of the 64-bit version, this wasn't needed for some reason......

Tobias?
26.10.2018
18:23:01
They are stored on the filesystem.

@
26.10.2018
18:23:19
Oh...

Are they on /home?

Cause / is reformatted

Kohane
26.10.2018
18:35:24
spookySun
26.10.2018
18:47:47
October 30, 2018
Ah, real soon ?

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spookySun
26.10.2018
18:48:05
I found relatively new WiFi drivers for my card

They must not have random disconnect issue

Kohane
26.10.2018
18:48:25
Haha, yes. The status of Fedora is GO

Michel Alexandre
26.10.2018
18:49:23
this is awesome. we're planning to start rolling it out at work soon (for those laggards that are currently on F27)

Kohane
26.10.2018
18:50:13
LOL laggards.... ?

Vitaly
26.10.2018
18:50:42
I found relatively new WiFi drivers for my card
Do not install any third-party drivers on Fedora. After doing that you will need to reinstall your system.

spookySun
26.10.2018
18:51:49
Extracted from the Linux kernel I think

Vitaly
26.10.2018
18:52:18
They're from the RTL new repo on git
Never use sudo make install on Fedora. It will destroy your system!

spookySun
26.10.2018
18:52:19
https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/tree/extended

Kohane
26.10.2018
18:53:33
I don't think so...

Vitaly
26.10.2018
18:53:40
@Wolfshappen is that true?
Make install will generate lots of untracked by package manager files and can overwrite important system files. You system will be unstable after doing that.

You must use only package manager to install any software on package-based distributions.

Tobias?
26.10.2018
18:54:43
@Wolfshappen is that true?
Depends on the tool but i generally do not recommend it either.

Vitaly
26.10.2018
18:54:47
And you cannot uninstall anything installed by make install.

Tobias?
26.10.2018
18:55:02
ONLY things like dolphin-emu that are able to install locally in a folder with no global libs maybe.

But all system libs, all big applications and whatnot strongly, very strongly prefer dnf.

spookySun
26.10.2018
18:55:33
ONLY things like dolphin-emu that are able to install locally in a folder with no global libs maybe.
They're WiFi drivers.. https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/tree/extended RTL8822BE

Tobias?
26.10.2018
18:55:48

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