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Kohane
26.10.2018
10:29:16
One never knows for sure if they're insulting or flattering ?

Arnaud
26.10.2018
10:29:29
?

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void
26.10.2018
10:30:40
I liked that ad hahah

Kohane
26.10.2018
10:30:48
It's really good.

void
26.10.2018
10:31:22
Always thought Lenovo was a non-trusted brand. Gotta seriously think again about this

Barrel
26.10.2018
10:40:12
*likely, pls do not
I did with T430, palm rest cracked because I was using classic keyboard without sanding down the nubs

Hourglass
26.10.2018
10:43:21
@Wolfshappen So if one is gonna buy a new laptop do you recommend System76?

Tobias?
26.10.2018
10:43:55
But if you want spy-free ootb and finance it...

Hourglass
26.10.2018
10:44:33
Tobias?
26.10.2018
10:45:27
Is it because of pricing?
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3022313/system76-is-disabling-intels-flawed-management-engine-on-its-linux-laptops

Barrel
26.10.2018
10:45:32
Is it because of pricing?
No, well partly, they're just not that good as laptops

If you're fine with disabling ME yourself then there's no reason to get one

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Tobias?
26.10.2018
10:46:28
If you're fine with disabling ME yourself then there's no reason to get one
(they helped immensely in finding all that out however)

Barrel
26.10.2018
10:47:01
(they helped immensely in finding all that out however)
I'd happily donate to them directly for that work, as that's the only thing I care about from them

Kohane
26.10.2018
10:47:46
Oh God!! One Brazilian!!
What do you mean with "one"? This group has many.

Hourglass
26.10.2018
10:48:03
If you're fine with disabling ME yourself then there's no reason to get one
I remember ME is not able to be disabled after 4 gen, and that's the reason many ppl still using 3gen cpu laptop, right?

Kohane
26.10.2018
10:48:23
Barrel
26.10.2018
10:48:29
I wonder where did you get this idea from...
I mean, outside of the ThinkPad lineup they don't make anything good

And their support is terrible

Tobias?
26.10.2018
10:48:53
Except that one laptop keyboard.

And their support is terrible
Actually, not that bad.

Louis Rossman - apple vs lenovo. xD

Barrel
26.10.2018
10:49:24
Actually, not that bad.
In comparison to their advanced thinkpad support

It's very different to maintain the image from IBM

Kohane
26.10.2018
10:50:03
I mean, outside of the ThinkPad lineup they don't make anything good
Oh, right. I've got confused. He said "Lenovo", and I've read "Thinkpad". ?

Barrel
26.10.2018
10:50:33
I had a brand new P51 overnighted to me and a box to return my old one, as well as a service worker to swap over the drives

Abhay.P.Nair
26.10.2018
11:17:06
If i install minimal kde on Fedora netinstall...when new fedora version comes up i.e 29..only the kde stuff i installed get updated or the whole kde features from fedora kde spin gets installed???

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Tobias?
26.10.2018
11:17:39
However

29 is not released yet.

Abhay.P.Nair
26.10.2018
11:18:29
When its released*...i don't want to setup the system again after Fedora 29 arrives

Tobias?
26.10.2018
11:21:09
It will show you ALL changes.

Abhay.P.Nair
26.10.2018
11:21:23
Ok

Thanks

Vitaly
26.10.2018
11:23:32
29 is not released yet.
Version F29 RC1.2 is final. You can download ISO image from Koji.

Fernando
26.10.2018
11:29:02
What do you mean with "one"? This group has many.
I speak English very we'll! So sorry, i'm learn.

What do you mean with "one"? This group has many.
Oooh!! But it's the first one I see putting a menssage in Portuguese.... You understood?!

Kohane
26.10.2018
11:39:14
Oooh!! But it's the first one I see putting a menssage in Portuguese.... You understood?!
Yes, I see, but that's because when someone sends a message written any other language that is not English, they're kindly asked to rewrite it in English.

I speak English very we'll! So sorry, i'm learn.
Erhm... I didn't criticise your English.

You'll see when you start the update download.
This is utterly unhelpful, Tobias. Seriously!

When its released*...i don't want to setup the system again after Fedora 29 arrives
No, you don't have to. Configuration and user files remain as they are. The upgrades affect whatever you have installed, so if your system is about the same as the one you installed first, it will be much smaller than if you installed many programs in the meantime. But if, let's say, you deleted some default app, that won't get reinstalled and of course there's nothing to update because it's not present in your system.

Fernando
26.10.2018
11:47:40
Erhm... I didn't criticise your English.
I had uderstood wrong rsrsrs

Kohane
26.10.2018
11:52:01
Any reason to send this, Wade?

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Deadpool
26.10.2018
11:52:53
ya

Tobias?
26.10.2018
11:52:55
Sheesh

Kohane
26.10.2018
11:53:10
I did. And still unhelpful.

Tobias?
26.10.2018
11:53:31
I did. And still unhelpful.
"dnf system-update will show ALL changes" is unhelpful how?

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Deadpool
26.10.2018
11:53:36
let me knoe how to install kde in fedora

Tobias?
26.10.2018
11:53:41
It has a "installing" listing showing ALL changed applications that are being added.

Deadpool
26.10.2018
11:54:23
setting up from minimal install is diificult?

Vitaly
26.10.2018
11:54:24
let me knoe how to install kde in fedora
1. Pick Fedora KDE Spin. 2. Install.

Kohane
26.10.2018
11:54:32
It has a "installing" listing showing ALL changed applications that are being added.
As far as I can tell, he wanted to know if upgrades in Fedora are like in Ubuntu that change and install stuff without asking.

Tobias?
26.10.2018
11:54:43
And no, despite me removing packagekit cockpit will default to recommend cockpit-packagekit.

Deadpool
26.10.2018
11:54:44
Kohane
26.10.2018
11:56:15
let me knoe how to install kde in fedora
If you already have Fedora installed, you can install the group for KDE. I have link explaining how, I can search if you want. If you have no Fedora installed, you can search for KDE Spin, download it, create a USB live stick and use it to install it.

They can, if packages are set to recommended.
But not in the way Ubuntu does. I would delete 10 programs just to see them installed back and all my programs removed from system.

One of my main reasons to leave Ubuntu in the very moment I met Fedora.

Ilya
26.10.2018
11:58:20
setting up from minimal install is diificult?
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9f0cng/howto_minimal_kde_install_on_fedora/

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Kohane
26.10.2018
11:58:53
Yes, it is.

Ilya
26.10.2018
11:58:53
Kohane
26.10.2018
11:59:39
The lazy way is installing from the Spin and deleting anything you don't want afterwards. If there's anything you don't want, ofc.

Kohane
26.10.2018
12:03:32
Ah, if you already installed Fedora and want to install the desktop, here is an article from Fedora Magazine: https://fedoramagazine.org/installing-kde-plasma-5

Rajjix
26.10.2018
12:25:00
The environment export did not work, so i had to remove the new kde and install all it’s dependencies’ older versions one by one ?

Akarshan
26.10.2018
12:28:53
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9f0cng/howto_minimal_kde_install_on_fedora/
Wow. Today I was thinking about making a minimal kde spin once 29 goes GA. LOL

Purankuton
26.10.2018
12:45:25


hahaha

this child-parent thing can look weird in cimpoter world

Hourglass
26.10.2018
12:49:25
Once I removed baloo because it keep crashing and I don't know wtf it is. And dnf took almost the entire DE as dependencies and removed them because I didn't check the messages?

Hourglass
26.10.2018
12:53:22

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