You can switch drivers per-tool with DRI_PRIME=1 executable in your terminal. Also if you have dash to dock installed you can right click applications in it and select "launch on dedicated card"

So it'll run the card on that chip for example {whatever PRIME command Nvidia}:ApplicationX will launch the app running the Nvidia graphic yet {whatever PRIME command Intel}:ApplicationY will launch the app using intel graphics in the same session?

So it'll run the card on that chip for example {whatever PRIME command Nvidia}:ApplicationX will launch the app running the Nvidia graphic yet {whatever PRIME command Intel}:ApplicationY will launch the app using intel graphics in the same session?

Whatever card is assigned to render the main monitor (afaik) will by default render things. Linux prefers internal gpus (intel hd/amd cpus with gpus builtin). If your system has two dedicated cards it gets more complicated but glxinfo will tell you which is used. DRI_PRIME/whatever will start the render task on GPU Value+1 (check with glxinfo) and return the output stream to the display-rendering card.

So DRI_PRIME=1 glxgears: glxgears renders on card 2 V Output is passed to card 1 V Monitor output

Optimus is a pita

Optimus is a pita

One of the many reasons to avoid nvidia when buying imho. :P

Yeah i made that mistake too, but i had no other option in the market when i bought it

Ryzen laptops released just after two month

Optimus is a pita

Pita? Like that delicious pocket bread...?

Pita? Like that delicious pocket bread...?

Pain In The Ass

lol

Ah.

Thanks @Wolfshappen yeah it is larger pain than I thought it was going to be. Hence why I went back to Pop as it runs the switching ok. Kinda wish I spent the money on an ultra book and put the rest into my desktop box but wanted to support System76 and thought this laptop could replace my desktop all together.

Well, I don't find them a pain in the a*** but thanks for the explanation. To me pita is something edible.

System76 is horribly overpriced. Why would anyone want to support them?

System76 is horribly overpriced. Why would anyone want to support them?

You know, people support apple in 2018

System76 is horribly overpriced. Why would anyone want to support them?

They have too little clients to lower their price.

You know, people support apple in 2018

Well, I would buy an Apple laptop if I have the money, but I'm not supporting it. I'm just buying something that is good and will have warranty and support for ages. Plus, works well my phone and has everything I need for design. * dreams of getting rid of Windows once and for all *

Thanks @Wolfshappen yeah it is larger pain than I thought it was going to be. Hence why I went back to Pop as it runs the switching ok. Kinda wish I spent the money on an ultra book and put the rest into my desktop box but wanted to support System76 and thought this laptop could replace my desktop all together.

i settled on the bumblebee solution, i hardly game so the dedicated gpu stays off like always

and i can still use it whenever i want , by using primusrun

or optirun

They have too little clients to lower their price.

Exactly that's the reason for them to ask lower prices. So they gain customers. Who would want to buy an almost unknown brand with ridiculous prices? If one is going to pay a lot of money, better putting it in a good widespread brand that you know what you're getting for and you'll have a branch nearby to go in case of problems.

Exactly that's the reason for them to ask lower prices. So they gain customers. Who would want to buy an almost unknown brand with ridiculous prices? If one is going to pay a lot of money, better putting it in a good widespread brand that you know what you're getting for and you'll have a branch nearby to go in case of problems.

Low prices aren't possible without a great number of customers. Either the product is trash or expensive.

Otherwise they have to have a huge donation.

Thanks @Wolfshappen yeah it is larger pain than I thought it was going to be. Hence why I went back to Pop as it runs the switching ok. Kinda wish I spent the money on an ultra book and put the rest into my desktop box but wanted to support System76 and thought this laptop could replace my desktop all together.

Erm... it should just work?

Low prices aren't possible without a great number of customers. Either the product is trash or expensive.

I don't agree. If you want to atract customers in a market that is already taken, you have to offer something. Price is the one thing that make people turn from their usual brands. Is that, or a super massive campaign to convince people that they are so astonishingly awesome that you should leave your stuff aside and buy to them.

Otherwise, how can a company expects to have any success?

I don't agree. If you want to atract customers in a market that is already taken, you have to offer something. Price is the one thing that make people turn from their usual brands. Is that, or a super massive campaign to convince people that they are so astonishingly awesome that you should leave your stuff aside and buy to them.

System76 does the latter.

With tested for linux certificate and consistent de-spying of hardware components.

But that development costs money.

System76 does the latter.

It doesn't look very effective. I haven't seen any commercial spots so far.

I don't agree. If you want to atract customers in a market that is already taken, you have to offer something. Price is the one thing that make people turn from their usual brands. Is that, or a super massive campaign to convince people that they are so astonishingly awesome that you should leave your stuff aside and buy to them.

Can you show any successful product, which was made by you?

It doesn't look very effective. I haven't seen any commercial spots so far.

They dont aim for worldwide distribution.

They aim for techies&Linux users.

Can you show any successful product, which was made by you?

By me? No, I'm horrible seller, too shy to get any success. Unless you include artworks in the "products" category. I'm good at that.

I agree with Kohane here.

They aim for techies&Linux users.

They aim to rich techies & Linux users.

If they want to attract customers , they should lower their prices.

Instead of paying 1000€ for their computers , I prefer to pay 200-500 for an Asus/Acer/HP computer with windows and then put linux on it.

They dont aim for worldwide distribution.

In other words, they mean to be niche and ask absurd prices for average computers. Fair enough. To each his own (market strategy).

Instead of paying 1000€ for their computers , I prefer to pay 200-500 for an Asus/Acer/HP computer with windows and then put linux on it.

Exactly! Or Lenovo Thinkpad. Those are very good as well and work smoothly with Linux.

go ahead and no look back, no wait for an ubuntu or a windows experience, test by yourself whisch software version desktop or spin to use, learn and enjoy, is a nice travel

Thank you forward forever back never

Exactly! Or Lenovo Thinkpad. Those are very good as well and work smoothly with Linux.

I never tried them out. I havd an Acer I paid 200€ and it was horrible with Windows 8. So I put Arch Linux on it and it works sooo smooth!

ThinkPad P1

Can anyone please tell me what's the current status of gstreamer?

Arguably the best laptop on the market

I never tried them out. I havd an Acer I paid 200€ and it was horrible with Windows 8. So I put Arch Linux on it and it works sooo smooth!

Oh, I did that with an Acer time ago. I installed Debian Testing and the change was astonishing.

Hello Fedora community. I real need help I tired of using Windows and I face a bad luck on using Windows 10. I want to move to Fedora me and myself. Any advice on where to begin . But I had a little experience on Linux on Ubuntu.

IMHO: make the pendrive, boot from it, play for some time with it to see if everything works okay for you. No idea what else I can say about "where to start" ;)

Oh, I did that with an Acer time ago. I installed Debian Testing and the change was astonishing.

Yes! I tried Debian and Fedora on it and both work well!

Arguably the best laptop on the market

Maybe. But it's as expensive as any Mac. What's the advantage then?

Oh, I did that with an Acer time ago. I installed Debian Testing and the change was astonishing.

So far , now that you said it , I'd like to try out a Lenovo ThinkPad with linux

Maybe. But it's as expensive as any Mac. What's the advantage then?

Oh lol

Thought it was cheap

So far , now that you said it , I'd like to try out a Lenovo ThinkPad with linux

You can find good models in Luxnote. I bought mine there.

Thought it was cheap

Not the P1 model.

Luxnote? Never heard of that!

It's some 1.500£ while a T440 is some 400€

Maybe. But it's as expensive as any Mac. What's the advantage then?

Everyone buys used ThinkPads anyway, and those can be dirt cheap. Maybe not the P1 right now, but give it some time ;) Of course new hardware will be expensive

It's some 1.500£ while a T440 is some 400€

Does it have good hardware the one valued 400?

Everyone buys used ThinkPads anyway, and those can be dirt cheap. Maybe not the P1 right now, but give it some time ;) Of course new hardware will be expensive

Sure. I didn't say "never ever buy it". But he mentioned that specific model so I looked it up.

Sure. I didn't say "never ever buy it". But he mentioned that specific model so I looked it up.

Ah, sorry - my ThinkPad fanboyism prevaled over reading with comprehension ;)

Can anyone please tell me what's the current status of gstreamer?

Eh?

Does it have good hardware the one valued 400?

Mine for example. Costed 490€, with touchscreen, two batteries (internal & external), keyboard with backlight, 8GB RAM, 250 SSD, i7 as processor, 1920x1080 screen resolution and a very nice graphic card.

Eh?

I mean Is gstreamer supposed to get replaced by pipewire or something?

Ah, the batteries are new and the keyboard is German, but I think you can change that.

Mine for example. Costed 490€, with touchscreen, two batteries (internal & external), keyboard with backlight, 8GB RAM, 250 SSD, i7 as processor, 1920x1080 screen resolution and a very nice graphic card.

Wtf. Are you serious?!

IMHO: make the pendrive, boot from it, play for some time with it to see if everything works okay for you. No idea what else I can say about "where to start" ;)

Thanks and tell me where to start.

I mean Is gstreamer supposed to get replaced by pipewire or something?

For now pipewire uses gstreamer, it might replace it at some later point

Wtf. Are you serious?!

Eh.. yes, I'm serious. It's 5 years old, so it's fairly new.

Eh.. yes, I'm serious. It's 5 years old, so it's fairly new.

Wow. That's such a good price!

For now pipewire uses gstreamer, it might replace it at some later point

oh. Okay.

Here I see computers like that being sold in stores for like 700+ euros

oh. Okay.

But there has been so much work poured into gstreamer and pipewire is nowhere near done, so it'll take some time

Wow. That's such a good price!

Yeah, but you can get them cheaper if you have less requisites. Keep in mind I use it for a lot of photography and artistic work, so it needs good resolution, screen, graphic card. If you use it, let's say development or office work, you can find them cheaper. An X220 or later is about 200€

Obviously everything comes with 1 year warranty, @voiday , as that's mandatory by law in the EU

Yeah, but you can get them cheaper if you have less requisites. Keep in mind I use it for a lot of photography and artistic work, so it needs good resolution, screen, graphic card. If you use it, let's say development or office work, you can find them cheaper. An X220 or later is about 200€

I need it mainly for development and university use.

Thanks and tell me where to start.

If you're on Windows, get a pendrive of 8GB or more, keeping in mind that it will be completely erased. Get https://github.com/FedoraQt/MediaWriter/releases/tag/4.1.1 . It will guide you through creating a bootable pendrive. Restart the computer with it inside. When the computer starts, select to boot from the pendrive (this procedure varies between different computer brands, so you have to figure this out yourself ;) ). If it boots from the pendrive correctly, then select to run the live environment instead of installation. Fedora should be running few minutes later.

System76 is horribly overpriced. Why would anyone want to support them?

They have working in Linux ACPI.

Proprietary ACPI is a major problem in Linux.

Even ThinkPads are working very bad in Linux due to ACPI bugs.

I hacked kernel on my ThinkPad T580 to fix throttling problem.

I need it mainly for development and university use.

Here is the website. They send worldwide. https://www.luxnote-laptop.com

Here is the website. They send worldwide. https://www.luxnote-laptop.com

Thank youu!

Even ThinkPads are working very bad in Linux due to ACPI bugs.

I never noticed any issues. My Fedora works as well as the Windows that is installed in the same laptop.

Here is the website. They send worldwide. https://www.luxnote-laptop.com

ThinkPad T480 and T580 has too bad Linux support nowadays.

They have working in Linux ACPI.

Yes, one pays a sorta big premium for a laptop which "just werks" for Linux

ThinkPad T480 and T580 has too bad Linux support nowadays.

Bad support like what?

Dunno, never noticed problems which one couldn't fix with other laptops though

Bad support like what?

Lots ACPI errors during boot, completely broken power-saving mode on kernels < 4.19 and throttling CPU up to 400 MHz.

My Spectre X360 only needs an additional boot parameter and it works just fine (other than the fingerprint button ><)

You cannot work when your CPU throttled to 400 MHz.

Hold on a second @xvitaly

What exactly is that your CPU is throttled to 400MHz.

Hold on a second @xvitaly

https://github.com/erpalma/lenovo-throttling-fix

What exactly is that your CPU is throttled to 400MHz.

Not working power saving mode => CPU temp increase to 80 degrees => throttling to 400 Mhz.

They partially fixed this only on latest firmware and Linux Kernel 4.19.

Well, I have no idea what is that throttling you're talking about, so I'm off to Google to answer this properly.