* Goes to search on Youtube Kurzgesagt video *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQGsMEc

Thats me. Great job there. ??

Their entire channel is worth it

This looks so... ????

He is repeating a (awesome but not in depth) kurzgesagt video :P

kurzgesagt is great guy, he is the next v-sause for me :)

kurzgesagt is great guy, he is the next v-sause for me :)

guy?

Its a large team in germany.

Or we're not worth the time, so they just skip the area altogether.

Yeah, there are many theories and all can be truth

Its a large team in germany.

Really? no wonder they make all these fancy art works

Really? no wonder they make all these fancy art works

They rely on patreon and german state funding (FUNK network).

And deals with skillshare xD

Some videos of theirs also got grants from foundations that want to bring more knowledge into the world.

totally worth it, they make the internet a better place

They rely on patreon and german state funding (FUNK network).

The German state funds them? Wow.

The German state funds them? Wow.

Well, german state broadcasting has some funding programs and some of them are to reach young viewers again and for that FUNK was established to fund youtube creators from germany and thus kurzgesagt could apply for funding.

Wow.

Because young viewers tend to not watch and entirely ignore state funded broadcasting.

So they try to follow the viewers. xD

Well, yeah, that's true.

Still. Wow.

hi, is there a way to install Joplin note taking over repositories and not via AppImage?

hi, is there a way to install Joplin note taking over repositories and not via AppImage?

npm -g install joplin

aye, joplin...

I use it, I like it, yet there is better stuff (but not free)

I use it, I like it, yet there is better stuff (but not free)

Nextcloud Notes/Nextcloud Markdown Editor. :P

OmniFocus

Hello, I need to replace the openjdk with the Oracle jdk. What packages do I have to remove relative to the openjdk?

oha....

Why replace openjdk...

Why replace openjdk...

because it performs shit.

aha.

Use C, then.

Use C, then.

Did you ever work with Java?

OpenJDK performs terribly compared to the Oracle JDK.

Yes

Yes

It looks like not.

aha.

aha.

I need to work, not to joke.

aha.

aha.

yeah really funny.

what is funny about me saying "aha"?

If I need speed, I use C, if I need flexibility, I use Lua, if I need nausea, I use Java.

OpenJDK performs terribly compared to the Oracle JDK.

It absolutely doesnt.

It performs about the same, as it shares a lot of the codebase except for patented code from oracle relating to color management, font smoothing and co.

I need to work, not to joke.

Then use openjdk, as it will you give way less headaches and perform the exact same as orcales jdk.

yeah really funny.

Wow, easy. You're quite agressive. Nobody is joking at you. Tone down those manners, please. If you're going to ask for help, you should start by being nice.

I'm sorry for having been annoying. I was angry at work because the platform I work on (Liferay) has issues with my OSGi module. As for the openjdk, it behaves quite bad in development, especially with huge software whereas I didn't experience the same delays with the oraclejdk. So, I'm quite forced to wait 40 minute for the server to start with the openjdk while the others take about 1/2 of the time with the oracle jdk.

@mbalmer that's why I can't really even try using C and @Wolfshappen why I can't use the openjdk.

And @Kohane I'm really sorry for this. I will calm down and never let this happen again.

Okay, no problem. We all have bad days. I'm glad you can own your misbehaviour.

I'm sorry for having been annoying. I was angry at work because the platform I work on (Liferay) has issues with my OSGi module. As for the openjdk, it behaves quite bad in development, especially with huge software whereas I didn't experience the same delays with the oraclejdk. So, I'm quite forced to wait 40 minute for the server to start with the openjdk while the others take about 1/2 of the time with the oracle jdk.

If... your server takes 20 Minutes to start you should really check the software itself.

Thats not a healthy warmup time.

Now, about your problem... You want to uninstall OpenJDK to install Oracle JDK, right? Am I corect @TheLonelyAdventurer ?

Thats not a healthy warmup time.

I recommend running your server in a vagrant vm however.

If... your server takes 20 Minutes to start you should really check the software itself.

nope, it's full of OSGi modules and implements elasticsearch, ORM and Hybernate it's quite resource-heavy

I recommend running your server in a vagrant vm however.

the problem is that deploying is a gradle task which might cause the OSGi controller to fail and put down the server

nope, it's full of OSGi modules and implements elasticsearch, ORM and Hybernate it's quite resource-heavy

Why would you add elasticsearch into the tool itself xD

Why would you add elasticsearch into the tool itself xD

I don't, Liferay does

Now, about your problem... You want to uninstall OpenJDK to install Oracle JDK, right? Am I corect @TheLonelyAdventurer ?

yes, thank you

yes, thank you

As said, ideally run it in a lxc container, or, even better, deploy it in a vagrant vm.

This way you get reproducible environments and you dont taint your system globally.

As said, ideally run it in a lxc container, or, even better, deploy it in a vagrant vm.

how would I deploy the module? the only way is with Liferay's plugin for Eclipse or IntelliJ

how would I deploy the module? the only way is with Liferay's plugin for Eclipse or IntelliJ

Can it run via ssh or how does it run exactly?

Or does it just operate on "build binary, java -jar"?

Can it run via ssh or how does it run exactly?

it's a gradle task that runs a tomcat web container (Catalina plus other Liferay plugins like Hikari)

it's a gradle task that runs a tomcat web container (Catalina plus other Liferay plugins like Hikari)

Well, if it cant go remote systems (which is a ton of horror curling my toes but whatever) then you'll have to install the oracle jdk and set the tomcat java runtime to the new paths.

And remember to keep that jdk updated yourself and that it taints your fedora java for any future bug reports.

Well, if it cant go remote systems (which is a ton of horror curling my toes but whatever) then you'll have to install the oracle jdk and set the tomcat java runtime to the new paths.

hehhh I feel that as you notice T_t

I've been having quite a bad time with it

A server that takes 20 Minutes to boot is not something i'd ever work with. xD

I know java has gotten out of hand but that is a little bit extreme.

A server that takes 20 Minutes to boot is not something i'd ever work with. xD

Me neither, but damn they really could have chosen not Liferay for this thing in particular which doesn't require a full Portal for management

that's bad software architecture and our company needs to comply

I mean, any php skiddie can slap together a backend management gui in a week and have it remain fast for even hundreds of thousands of entries.

Whats liferays excuse?

Whats liferays excuse?

It's the best business portal for Java, the best maintained and documented and has been open sourced. Also, supports OSGi which (theoretically) should ease the development. Actually I can say its documentation is quite well-done and its API are incredibly clear and clean. But man, deploying a new module is a horror story

It's the best business portal for Java, the best maintained and documented and has been open sourced. Also, supports OSGi which (theoretically) should ease the development. Actually I can say its documentation is quite well-done and its API are incredibly clear and clean. But man, deploying a new module is a horror story

Needs more pcie ssds in raid. xD

and also, it's the only Portal that uses Hikari instead of the jdbc plain controller, which makes it quite performant for big tasks and despite its huge footprint, it's about 700/800MB of RAM usage.

and also, it's the only Portal that uses Hikari instead of the jdbc plain controller, which makes it quite performant for big tasks and despite its huge footprint, it's about 700/800MB of RAM usage.

700 is pretty average. Confluence/jira alone eat that much.

700 is pretty average. Confluence/jira alone eat that much.

Yeah, I was a bit amazed. I was scared at first when I saw all the modules it uses.

Anyway, you said that openjdk should perform almost the same... why does this not happen in my case? Maybe it has to do with some Oracle's GC trickery ?

Anyway, you said that openjdk should perform almost the same... why does this not happen in my case? Maybe it has to do with some Oracle's GC trickery ?

Oracle replaces some openjdk parts with per-platform optimized native code, and of course the added propreitary parts for encryption, ssl and whatnot.

So if you have a hot path relying on these unavailable features needing workarounds or working faster with a native code implant then it can change things.

But in general oracle and open jdk share the same code and should perform very, very similar.

I see

that could explain it.

@adammazinga what's the name of the application menu you're using?

hi

english please