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Mikhail
28.01.2018
06:31:07
I think this is the sort of spambot

Sid
28.01.2018
06:31:32
I think this is the sort of spambot
Apparently not. Someone google translated it...

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Mikhail
28.01.2018
06:33:57
I know, but thing he said sounds a bit ads-stylish

Le Schyken
28.01.2018
08:53:26
Welcome!

Sid
28.01.2018
09:02:53
Welcome!
He left, a few seconds after he joined :|

Le Schyken
28.01.2018
09:04:32
?

Akarshan
28.01.2018
09:32:03
No. I just checked the official Fedora chromium src rpm and it has it's own sets of custom patches which are incompatible with the *freeworld* versions. The freeworld version is upstreamed which is disabled by default and it has been strictly indicated in the spec file to not to enable this on official Fedora builds.

Sachin S.
28.01.2018
10:20:23


Kohane
28.01.2018
10:25:41
Cool

Tobias?
28.01.2018
10:34:05
Barrel
28.01.2018
10:34:14


Akarshan
28.01.2018
10:47:31
Again, the freeworld patches have to be compiled against every chromium version, however its accomplished. Thus the codecs will kill chromium to start after an update-but-not-codec-update.
Why not bundle codecs with the package? Let chromium use bundled codecs instead of the system codecs and I'm saying this because, once libva is enabled chromium can directly use va capabilities of gpu driver without need to access system codecs. Or this have to do with proprietary codecs rule that US based open source companies are following?

Tobias?
28.01.2018
10:49:10
Why not bundle codecs with the package? Let chromium use bundled codecs instead of the system codecs and I'm saying this because, once libva is enabled chromium can directly use va capabilities of gpu driver without need to access system codecs. Or this have to do with proprietary codecs rule that US based open source companies are following?
Not even propreitary codecs, also codecs that are under licensed and copyrighted patents and all. Like mp3 was until a few months ago. If you'd prepackage it you'd have to pay for everyone using it - in case of firefox for example cisco is paying per active user

That may be dropped at any day however.

This is a large part of the reason rpmfusion exists - it has ffmpeg (need to pay for every user), telegram (using ffmpeg), mpv (uses ffmpeg), vlc (uses ffmpeg)....

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Tobias?
28.01.2018
10:51:25
And the reason chromium was absent from fedora for such a long time.

Akarshan
28.01.2018
10:59:24
This is a large part of the reason rpmfusion exists - it has ffmpeg (need to pay for every user), telegram (using ffmpeg), mpv (uses ffmpeg), vlc (uses ffmpeg)....
Fedora version of the chromium source do have Cisco's openh264 but Fedora maintainers have not enabled it due to said reasons. I can understand. Thank you so much for the explanation. ?

Oleg
28.01.2018
11:10:46


Tobias?
28.01.2018
11:11:08
curl wttr.in

Oleg
28.01.2018
11:11:53
curl wttr.in
genius, thank you!

Tobias?
28.01.2018
11:20:10
Need to pay? Sorry?
Cisco pays, for every user of firefox openh264, a tiny amount to the mp4 licensing entity.

Its a patented codec and as long as the patent runs you cannot legally give playback decoders and encoders to users without paying them.

Part of the reason why webm and vp9 were created and pushed as standard so noone would need to pay anyone or hinder codec distribution.

Sid
28.01.2018
11:23:31
Oh Okk.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Tobias?
28.01.2018
11:25:13
I need a "insist on open formats" sticker with the logos of opus, webm, webp, vp9 and ogg theora XD

Robert
28.01.2018
11:35:25
Hey guys, question. How can I disable the single click to select a file in the open file dialog? This is super irritating. I want to double click! ? Talking about this screen:



Le Schyken
28.01.2018
11:49:21
I need a "insist on open formats" sticker with the logos of opus, webm, webp, vp9 and ogg theora XD
VP8/9 is nice to have when H264/5 aren't available, though I thankfully am not in that predicament often.

Tobias?
28.01.2018
11:50:49
VP8/9 is nice to have when H264/5 aren't available, though I thankfully am not in that predicament often.
I want to have them available over h264/5 all the time, because then they are playable OOTB on most free software things.

Le Schyken
28.01.2018
11:52:07
For me their performance is subpar (in terms of encoding/transcoding times to file size and quality) to H264/5, but they're useful to have regardless.

It is nice when things work ootb ?

Tobias?
28.01.2018
11:53:54
For me their performance is subpar (in terms of encoding/transcoding times to file size and quality) to H264/5, but they're useful to have regardless.
Then you've set wrong params on vp9 - it can be as efficient and at the same visual quality as h265.

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Le Schyken
28.01.2018
11:54:43
Then you've set wrong params on vp9 - it can be as efficient and at the same visual quality as h265.
Not at all. I've done plenty of tests and read the documentation on it. In theory this should be the case, but in practice it is not. Not for me anyway, efficiency-wise.

Tobias?
28.01.2018
11:57:42
Le Schyken
28.01.2018
11:59:16
We encode videos for websites and vp9 usually gets preference for us as it comes out smaller.
I encode videos for YouTube and I typically see longer encoding times with no gain for VP9 than I do with H265. It's not a large margin, but enough for me to just use H265.

Tobias?
28.01.2018
12:00:06
I encode videos for YouTube and I typically see longer encoding times with no gain for VP9 than I do with H265. It's not a large margin, but enough for me to just use H265.
Aw, else youtube can serve videos to everyone instantly. This way you force youtube to convert to vp9 itself, which it only does after a certain interest from users.

Thus i likely couldnt watch any of your videos.

(except with mpv)

Akarshan
28.01.2018
12:00:37
Is there any website which uses vp9 apart from YouTube?

Akarshan
28.01.2018
12:02:55
Anyways, the upcoming aomedia has some hope to get wide spread acceptance.

Le Schyken
28.01.2018
12:05:50
@buredoRUNofthecyborg :3

Tobias?
28.01.2018
12:10:31
And many webpages use it as second source because lacking mp4 support is a rather widespread thing on especially cheaper devices.

Sid
28.01.2018
12:13:32
@buredoRUNofthecyborg :3
Punished! Thanks!

Le Schyken
28.01.2018
12:13:50
I really like that GIF ?

Robert
28.01.2018
12:32:58
Hmm interesting. When you bookmark a folder and then move it, the bookmark breaks. Never noticed this before. What a bummer. Would be nice if it could automatically relink to the new folder.

Sid
28.01.2018
12:48:22
Welcome to the group! Please have a look at the pinned message!

Daniel
28.01.2018
13:32:12
What do u think about Chromium SWE for Android

Sid
28.01.2018
14:34:02
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheHackersNews/~3/QKcLYjgD6Tw/intel-meltdown-spectre-patch.html

Tobias?
28.01.2018
14:46:17
Also, please post the source? No need to give google tracking data.

Google
Sid
28.01.2018
14:47:08
Thats... several days old now. XD
What's Fedora gonna do, btw?

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Daniel
28.01.2018
14:47:55
Im not affected, they wont patch my CPU anyway ???

Rokas
28.01.2018
14:51:36
What's Fedora gonna do, btw?
They reverted the patches

Tobias?
28.01.2018
14:56:07
What's Fedora gonna do, btw?
Keep calm, retpoline on and reject intel being intel.

Heck linus has pretty strong things to say recently about intels patches too. XD

http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1801.2/04628.html

So somebody isn't telling the truth here. Somebody is pushing complete garbage for unclear reasons. Sorry for having to point that out. If this was about flushing the BTB at actual context switches between different users, I'd believe you. But that's not at all what the patches do. As it is, the patches are COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE.

Sid
28.01.2018
14:58:30
Vitaly
28.01.2018
15:00:28
They reverted the patches
No. RHEL reverted, not Fedora.

Sid
28.01.2018
15:00:55
Vitaly
28.01.2018
15:01:07
Fedora haven't yet?
Fedora has both patched kernel and microcode. It won't be reverted.

Vitaly
28.01.2018
15:02:10
Oh. :(
Everything works fine on Fedora. Don't worry.

Sid
28.01.2018
15:03:23
Everything works fine on Fedora. Don't worry.
Well, at the end of the day, I trust the Fedora devs...

Rokas
28.01.2018
15:06:26
No. RHEL reverted, not Fedora.
Oh, I guess I was misinformed then

Daniel
28.01.2018
15:35:28
They wont patch processors of more than 5 years right

Michael
28.01.2018
15:35:55
They wont patch processors of more than 5 years right
well, so my Core II Duo T5500 is unsafe?

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Daniel
28.01.2018
15:36:20
We have kernel level patches

Not microcode

i have a p8400 Core2Duo

Marlon
28.01.2018
15:39:05
As long as you follow the centuries old advice of not running untrusted code and blocking JS it won't be much of a problem. It isn't a remote exploit

Kohane
28.01.2018
17:12:41
What's Fedora gonna do, btw?
As far as I can tell, they're still testing so we're safe. They didn't release the patch straight away.

Oleg
29.01.2018
04:01:57
where is official recommendation, how to trim SSD? By fstrim / or by discard option in fstab? I saw also fstrim.timer, but can't understand, is it sufficient to run fstrim weekly?

Sid
29.01.2018
06:21:54
Welcome! Please read the pinned message!

Hakimi
29.01.2018
06:23:16
Alex
29.01.2018
06:24:34
Hello
Hello?

Tobias?
29.01.2018
07:34:10
where is official recommendation, how to trim SSD? By fstrim / or by discard option in fstab? I saw also fstrim.timer, but can't understand, is it sufficient to run fstrim weekly?
Letting Fedora handle it. Some ssds do not allow for use of the fast and cheap fstrim commands without loosing data so fedora will auto-choose the right fstrim setting for you.

It is already enabled by default wherever possible so dont worry

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