This is why this is exactly the place. I'm trying to bring up the subject which is really important for many users out there in the community. If I wouldn't care I'd just throw away Gnome and buy Mac I guess

Well, like I said earlier, at the end of the day I just smile and wave, smile and wave. :) I'm not giving up on GNOME yet, as hard as it is.

This is why this is exactly the place. I'm trying to bring up the subject which is really important for many users out there in the community. If I wouldn't care I'd just throw away Gnome and buy Mac I guess

Here you go: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/?name=gnome

Have you given Cinnamon a try?

Well, maybe this is the way to go. Because it doesn't matter that it has not got Gnome's Overview and search. At the end of the day, I just need to open some windows and get the job done.

You do have an overview function in Cinnamon

You can assign it to hot corners and I believe also to hot keys

This is why this is exactly the place. I'm trying to bring up the subject which is really important for many users out there in the community. If I wouldn't care I'd just throw away Gnome and buy Mac I guess

Also, I think, I needed to know am I the only one and some place to throw out my disappointment

I used to always use hotcorners with Cinnamon

You do have an overview function in Cinnamon

Hmm... Interesting. Thanks. I'll try it tonight then.

I used to always use hotcorners with Cinnamon

Hotkey is ok. I prefer to use mouse as little as possible.

Hotkey is ok. I prefer to use mouse as little as possible.

Same

I used to always use hotcorners with Cinnamon

I do the same with KDE as well. GNOME got me hooked on that overview ?

Hmm... Interesting. Thanks. I'll try it tonight then.

But I wanted to be on the edge:( I really like the way Gnome devs work on the new UX, But the result is aww:)

Hot corners are extremely annoying to me lol

Hot corners are extremely annoying to me lol

Especially with more than one monitors:) Or when you need to click an icon near the corner...

But I wanted to be on the edge:( I really like the way Gnome devs work on the new UX, But the result is aww:)

+1

Especially with more than one monitors:) Or when you need to click an icon near the corner...

Yeah so i just smack the mod key to go to overview

Hot corners are extremely annoying to me lol

I have my activation sensitivity really low so I have to slam the mouse into the corner with a flick of my wrist to activate it

Yeah so i just smack the mod key to go to overview

Yeah. And I like how it is an industry standard now. "Mod + type an app name" works almost everywhere nowadays

Yeah. And I like how it is an industry standard now. "Mod + type an app name" works almost everywhere nowadays

Yeah that one's pretty nice

Yeah. And I like how it is an industry standard now. "Mod + type an app name" works almost everywhere nowadays

*remembers i3 fondly*

Oh jeez! That would hurt. Best of luck healing! :O

What happened?

*remembers i3 fondly*

I have it installed actually. It is Mod+D there at my setup. And I wasn't able to make it work with single Mod tap.

Oh jeez! That would hurt. Best of luck healing! :O

Thanks!

I have it installed actually. It is Mod+D there at my setup. And I wasn't able to make it work with single Mod tap.

IIRC the way i3 is designed somewhat inhibits single Mod tap because at that point it looks for an activator or a modifier

What happened?

Road was too slippery for my boots. Smashed wrist into the asphalt.

ouch

Road was too slippery for my boots. Smashed wrist into the asphalt.

Oh, that had to hurt! Get well soon mate!

IIRC the way i3 is designed somewhat inhibits single Mod tap because at that point it looks for an activator or a modifier

So when you tap it, it's more or less waiting for a command, in this case a key.

Oh, that had to hurt! Get well soon mate!

Yeah, thanks! At least I can type and use touchpad. Needed to pay extra to have that kind of lightweight thing instead of regular gypsum.

Yeah, thanks! At least I can type and use touchpad. Needed to pay extra to have that kind of lightweight thing instead of regular gypsum.

Ooohhh

So when you tap it, it's more or less waiting for a command, in this case a key.

Anyway, I3 is awesome:)

I agree :D

Anyway, I3 is awesome:)

See what I did here?:)

See what I did here?:)

Punny boi ?

Anyway, I3 is awesome:)

Awesome is another one

Ok, onwards to Cinnamon then:)

Awesome is another one

It is not as awesome as I3 is:) However I have it installed also.

It is not as awesome as I3 is:) However I have it installed also.

I have only Gnome, I3 and awesome btw. KDE survived less than a day

I have only Gnome, I3 and awesome btw. KDE survived less than a day

Aw, that's unfortunate.

KDE is great

Oh, I've tried lxqt yesterday also. It has no compositor afaiu. So, conky was not transparent;)

KDE is great

Let's not start it. It's ok now. But as I've mentioned above it lacks audio output switching UX and also file types association UI is not for humans sadly.

You were praising i3!

Ironic ?

You were praising i3!

All Linux DEs have something to offer, tbh.

You were praising i3!

Well. I treat software as it sells itself. KDE is out there for more than 20 years. It has a lot of settings and UIs for almost everything. This develops a bias in such a way that you don't expect having troubles to switch audio output usually.

All Linux DEs have something to offer, tbh.

True. But it turns out that they all have a lack of something.

Well. I treat software as it sells itself. KDE is out there for more than 20 years. It has a lot of settings and UIs for almost everything. This develops a bias in such a way that you don't expect having troubles to switch audio output usually.

Or touchpad toggle from keyboard

I just wish I could have i3 without losing the comfiness of gnome

True. But it turns out that they all have a lack of something.

Fork all of them, make your own!

Fork all of them, make your own!

as everyone does with distros right now? ?

as everyone does with distros right now? ?

This`ll be new!

Fork all of them, make your own!

If only I had time to do it...

I'm using Chrome myself because it's all bundled up and convenient for me. :D

i prefor firefox. cuase it not an Spying software...

so why is FSF bad now??

Ok, onwards to Cinnamon then:)

Looks like Cinnamon is a fair option. Still need to figure out how to scale fonts and change hotkeys. And switch audio outputs ofcause:) But it works;)

Looks like Cinnamon is a fair option. Still need to figure out how to scale fonts and change hotkeys. And switch audio outputs ofcause:) But it works;)

Yeah cinnamon is nice

i prefor firefox. cuase it not an Spying software...

Chrome isn't spying software. ?

i prefor firefox. cuase it not an Spying software...

> be me > try to ignore this > Be successful > Pass it on @Wolfshappen

Chrome isn't spying software. ?

it sure looks like it ..... i i was talking to a friend about my jpb an the next second my job ads was on all the ad feeds...... no thank you...

Chrome isn't spying software. ?

Wait, wut?

it sure looks like it ..... i i was talking to a friend about my jpb an the next second my job ads was on all the ad feeds...... no thank you...

To you, maybe. I find things like that helpful and useful, which is why it's not spyware.

Wait, wut?

Exactly what I said.

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To you, maybe. I find things like that helpful and useful, which is why it's not spyware.

Not everyone, esp privacy conscious people agree with that.

Not everyone, esp privacy conscious people agree with that.

And that's fine. That's their opinion.

I typically disregard most of what people whinge about when it comes to supposed spyware because it often comes from a sense of insecurity, and doesn't reflect the actual benefits of its use and presence.

I can't live my life running from it all. I'd rather enjoy it. ?

it sure looks like it ..... i i was talking to a friend about my jpb an the next second my job ads was on all the ad feeds...... no thank you...

Unlikely.

you very likely showed google trough interest and search results that you wanted that.

Plus, for people that fear such, even if google doesnt do that because the constant full voice processing would make your cpu die in flames and network clogged, there's chromium.

Also this is attention perception - if you talk about something with someone else you will have heightened attention about it after. Google might have shown you job ad feeds before but talking to a friend about it made you notice them more.

so why is FSF bad now??

Because they interpret "minified" js as "propreitary" because they dont know even base web technologies, neither does their librejs tool.

Dang.

out of curiosity: why should i use xorg over wayland on fedora workstation?

out of curiosity: why should i use xorg over wayland on fedora workstation?

It's really dependent on how Wayland performs for you.

i am using since fedora made it the default. i had no single issue with it so far. that's why i was wondering. i read about so many issues with tearing and crashes etc. but ... uhm ... never had that i think.

or maybe i got so used to it, that i brain removes the tearing :D

Wayland causes a lot of issues for a lot of people, but not for others.

Wayland fixes tearing, not causes it. :D

hm, that's what i thought. but ppl still complain about that.

Interesting.

Well people with Nvidia cards probably don't get the best experience.

And Wayland (moreso GNOME's Mutter) can't handle higher refresh rates...

I have a 144Hz monitor that can only run 60Hz under Wayland (even after choosing a refresh rate explicitly) because it's so poorly implemented and not really fully baked.

So X is the solution until they get it together.

Wayland (moreso XWayland and the clipboard manager) also has shared clipboard issues.

really want to get an new nuc but i cant dicde octanee or nonne octane

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I have no idea what that means ?. Have a cookie ?.

I have no idea what that means ?. Have a cookie ?.

Hehe google translate says "Hello, sorry for the trouble, we are a team of developers (30 people) from South Korea, we study in Vladivostok, we have tremendous experience in programming, we are ready to cooperate."

Здравствуйте, извините за беспокойство, мы команда разработчиков (30 человек) с Южной Кореи, учимся в г. Владивостоке, имеем колоссальный опыт в программировании, готовы сотрудничать.

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Hehe google translate says "Hello, sorry for the trouble, we are a team of developers (30 people) from South Korea, we study in Vladivostok, we have tremendous experience in programming, we are ready to cooperate."

Ahh, I still somehow forget about Google Translate. Not sure how it slips my mind. ?

Good to know. Anyway, I'll stick to Wayland then.