Is there a possibility to show the length of an audio/video-file in Nautilus? Or for example to select 7 audio-files and sort them by length? I really miss this option ?

Is there a possibility to show the length of an audio/video-file in Nautilus? Or for example to select 7 audio-files and sort them by length? I really miss this option ?

Right click and audio information should have it, right?

Yeah, that`s the problem with some short term releases...

I should have reopened but I got discouraged.

It's the same as with Gnome Recipes. It's been ages since I reported a bug that makes it unusable. But nobody fixed it. I offered to help but the main dev isn't interested.

It's the same as with Gnome Recipes. It's been ages since I reported a bug that makes it unusable. But nobody fixed it. I offered to help but the main dev isn't interested.

Eugh!

I should have reopened but I got discouraged.

Eh, it happens sometimes...

It used to have that option iirc, sorry.

Eh, it happens sometimes...

I know. ?

Why they strip so much from nautilus -.-

Why they strip so much from nautilus -.-

I didn`t even know they removed this, tbfh.

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Why they strip so much from nautilus -.-

Because they do so with the whole desktop. With every version another feature is missing.

Wow, this is so wonderful: http://selinuxgame.org/

Wow, this is so wonderful: http://selinuxgame.org/

you win by just quitting instantly?

Wow, this is so wonderful: http://selinuxgame.org/

I can't find setenforce 0 help!

I can't find setenforce 0 help!

http://selinuxgame.org/scenarios/new_ways/ :P

Oh, well, I read somewhere that they have Chinese spyware so I don't think I want one.

Yeah, that was an issue, but I'd probably still want one ?. I like the phone itself.

This is just hilarious… Linux Desktop in general aways struggles because of the lack of support from vendors. There are a lot of good applications missing from our Fedoras and Ubuntus. Well, at least some good tools exist which we can use on Linux Desktops. Sometimes they lack some features but we learned how to adapt. At least system tray icons work on all Desktop Environments the same way and vendors don't need to invest much to bring their apps experience to Linux Desktops. Skype, Slack or Dropbox may not be free or open but it is true that we need them for work. But wait. Devs at Gnome decided that system tray icons are sucks and the world must get rid of them but they forgot to ensure that world received the message before throwing out the system tray. So, they say (on Gnome Blog https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ and even on Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/move-status-icons-to-your-gnome-top-bar/) we need to use an extension (https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1031/topicons/) to bring icons back to the tray in case we need it. Yeah, we do bloody need those icons to see that somebody mentions our names on Slack or on Telegram. That is what those icons are intended to be used for. Not to keep them hidden or disabling them. Well, puzzle solved and we can relax now. Hell no! That cool extension keeps crashing Gnome and at the end of the day, its development is discontinued (https://github.com/phocean/TopIcons-plus). Period. Perfect.

This is just hilarious… Linux Desktop in general aways struggles because of the lack of support from vendors. There are a lot of good applications missing from our Fedoras and Ubuntus. Well, at least some good tools exist which we can use on Linux Desktops. Sometimes they lack some features but we learned how to adapt. At least system tray icons work on all Desktop Environments the same way and vendors don't need to invest much to bring their apps experience to Linux Desktops. Skype, Slack or Dropbox may not be free or open but it is true that we need them for work. But wait. Devs at Gnome decided that system tray icons are sucks and the world must get rid of them but they forgot to ensure that world received the message before throwing out the system tray. So, they say (on Gnome Blog https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ and even on Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/move-status-icons-to-your-gnome-top-bar/) we need to use an extension (https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1031/topicons/) to bring icons back to the tray in case we need it. Yeah, we do bloody need those icons to see that somebody mentions our names on Slack or on Telegram. That is what those icons are intended to be used for. Not to keep them hidden or disabling them. Well, puzzle solved and we can relax now. Hell no! That cool extension keeps crashing Gnome and at the end of the day, its development is discontinued (https://github.com/phocean/TopIcons-plus). Period. Perfect.

GNOME doesn't make the right choices at the right time unfortunately. ?

GNOME doesn't make the right choices at the right time unfortunately. ?

As for me, this is nearly insane move.

As for me, this is nearly insane move.

No vendor will spend money on adapting their app specifically to one Desktop Environment of many on the least popular desktop OS. It almost killing current users' experience in very unpleasant fashion.

As for me, this is nearly insane move.

It irks me too. Mostly because they have absolutely NO working alternative and they decided to push this. Indicators/systray are pretty important. GNOME clearly doesn't understand. ? As with most GNOME users, I just smile and wave as they dismantle everything.

No vendor will spend money on adapting their app specifically to one Desktop Environment of many on the least popular desktop OS. It almost killing current users' experience in very unpleasant fashion.

I agree with this.

Especially since other desktops DO still support this.

This is just hilarious… Linux Desktop in general aways struggles because of the lack of support from vendors. There are a lot of good applications missing from our Fedoras and Ubuntus. Well, at least some good tools exist which we can use on Linux Desktops. Sometimes they lack some features but we learned how to adapt. At least system tray icons work on all Desktop Environments the same way and vendors don't need to invest much to bring their apps experience to Linux Desktops. Skype, Slack or Dropbox may not be free or open but it is true that we need them for work. But wait. Devs at Gnome decided that system tray icons are sucks and the world must get rid of them but they forgot to ensure that world received the message before throwing out the system tray. So, they say (on Gnome Blog https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ and even on Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/move-status-icons-to-your-gnome-top-bar/) we need to use an extension (https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1031/topicons/) to bring icons back to the tray in case we need it. Yeah, we do bloody need those icons to see that somebody mentions our names on Slack or on Telegram. That is what those icons are intended to be used for. Not to keep them hidden or disabling them. Well, puzzle solved and we can relax now. Hell no! That cool extension keeps crashing Gnome and at the end of the day, its development is discontinued (https://github.com/phocean/TopIcons-plus). Period. Perfect.

They are right though

systray items are stupid

systray items are stupid

except they work

systray items are stupid

Change is hard for a lot of people.

Change is hard for a lot of people.

Ok, I'm ready to change. What should I do to start seeing Slack and Telegram notifs again? To be able to see are there any direct mentions of me there?

Change is hard for a lot of people.

It's not the change I have a problem with really. My problem is that they have no functioning solution or mitigation. They went to the length of offering some references to half-assed extensions that rarely work, if at all. They might as well have taken it out and then kept quiet about it.

well, it's GNOME

what did you expect

They demonstrated very effectively that even THEY don't know what they're doing. ?

they are innovative

unlike antique XFCE

Ok, I'm ready to change. What should I do to start seeing Slack and Telegram notifs again? To be able to see are there any direct mentions of me there?

Asks for change, then wants the same functionality.

They demonstrated very effectively that even THEY don't know what they're doing. ?

This is bordering on insults...

This is bordering on insults...

It isn't.

Ok, I'm ready to change. What should I do to start seeing Slack and Telegram notifs again? To be able to see are there any direct mentions of me there?

what's the issue? I had no systray icons in GNOME and telegram notifications worked fine

It's not the change I have a problem with really. My problem is that they have no functioning solution or mitigation. They went to the length of offering some references to half-assed extensions that rarely work, if at all. They might as well have taken it out and then kept quiet about it.

Well, in all fairness, it`s not their fault the extension was discontinued.

?

Asks for change, then wants the same functionality.

I need the same UX. I don't care how but I need to keep it. Anything will work util it does the job.

It isn't.

It is, though.

Well, in all fairness, it`s not their fault the extension was discontinued.

But they didn't even pay enough attention to understand that.

Which is why it's not an insult from me. It's reality from them against themselves. ?

But they didn't even pay enough attention to understand that.

lol wtf is wrong with you

But they didn't even pay enough attention to understand that.

When they made the announcement the extension was still in active development.

lol wtf is wrong with you

Dude.

They originally pointed people to the wrong extension.

One which was already dead.

Sure they fixed that later.

They originally pointed people to the wrong extension.

Link, please?

Sure they fixed that later.

But it's still pretty amusing and disappointing.

what's the issue? I had no systray icons in GNOME and telegram notifications worked fine

I went to get myself a cup of tee. Somebody wrote a direct message. Notification gone away. I came back. Have I any important notification from that ton of "that installed" and "weather is fine" stuff?

I went to get myself a cup of tee. Somebody wrote a direct message. Notification gone away. I came back. Have I any important notification from that ton of "that installed" and "weather is fine" stuff?

Wait, no DE offers support for direct, tagged telegram messages afaict.

I went to get myself a cup of tee. Somebody wrote a direct message. Notification gone away. I came back. Have I any important notification from that ton of "that installed" and "weather is fine" stuff?

Well, they are all listed there until you clear them. it isn't that hard

Well, in all fairness, it`s not their fault the extension was discontinued.

It is there fault that they rely on someone else with a thing which essential for almost every user.

Wait, no DE offers support for direct, tagged telegram messages afaict.

It`s a telegram thing, @lig11

It is there fault that they rely on someone else with a thing which essential for almost every user.

So? They are working on implementing new technology and bringing about a change

The messages in GNOME worked just fine the last time I used it I must say.

But that was a long time ago

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Well, I still get my telegram notifications on GNOME.

Which is a mess

What is this?

Its macOS

I mostly use fedora for servers now

Oh okkk

Wait, no DE offers support for direct, tagged telegram messages afaict.

It is about Slack. It has a special colored dot on the icon when somebody mentions you or writes direct message. Also Telegram has different colors for unread counter depending on weither you have new messages in muted chats only or also in important not muted ones.

Its macOS

Didn`t look like any Linux I know...

It is about Slack. It has a special colored dot on the icon when somebody mentions you or writes direct message. Also Telegram has different colors for unread counter depending on weither you have new messages in muted chats only or also in important not muted ones.

I`ve never seen that even on KDE (telegram)

I don`t use Slack, but I`m sure you get those notifications too.

I don`t use Slack, but I`m sure you get those notifications too.

Not the way he is talking about

Not the way he is talking about

He agrees he wouldn`t mind a different UI/ UX.

I must say I like Cinnamon which still has it afaik

I don`t use Slack, but I`m sure you get those notifications too.

You understand this is not convinient, right? Notifications on platforms which rely on them havily like Android have separate streams for different apps. I'm completely ok with that. And honestly Android UX is good enough. But the current Gnome's isn't.

I really understand why people want their status icons and there is an actual need for them, but I don't see why Gnome is the problem. Gnome decided to no longer support them, besides the option to have it as extension. When you are fine with it, perfect, everything is as it should be. If you are not, open an issue, create a Merge request, offer something to change it to a better way, fork it or simply use something else. That's the option you have with free software but there is no need to get rid of your frustration here. Why? Because probably nobody cares and/or can/want to really solve this problem for you. So search for the right address of your critics and point it out there :)

I really understand why people want their status icons and there is an actual need for them, but I don't see why Gnome is the problem. Gnome decided to no longer support them, besides the option to have it as extension. When you are fine with it, perfect, everything is as it should be. If you are not, open an issue, create a Merge request, offer something to change it to a better way, fork it or simply use something else. That's the option you have with free software but there is no need to get rid of your frustration here. Why? Because probably nobody cares and/or can/want to really solve this problem for you. So search for the right address of your critics and point it out there :)

^^^

It is frustrating but I concur

I've just started Slack. I already have some direct mentions and other messages. Switched back to Telegram. Now I cannot tell if I still have something in Slack. No, letteraly no indication of that is on my screen now. And there is now notifs. And even worse there is no "dot indication" saying I still have some notifs from other apps despite they are there. Complete nonsense.

I really understand why people want their status icons and there is an actual need for them, but I don't see why Gnome is the problem. Gnome decided to no longer support them, besides the option to have it as extension. When you are fine with it, perfect, everything is as it should be. If you are not, open an issue, create a Merge request, offer something to change it to a better way, fork it or simply use something else. That's the option you have with free software but there is no need to get rid of your frustration here. Why? Because probably nobody cares and/or can/want to really solve this problem for you. So search for the right address of your critics and point it out there :)

There is no working extension at the moment.

There is no working extension at the moment.

Well, then the answer is build one or use something else ;)

And by the way, I run top icons plus right now ^^

@lig11 This is honestly not the place to rant about this.

@lig11 This is honestly not the place to rant about this.

Probably true considering Fedora's love for GNOME and vice versa.

Probably true considering Fedora's love for GNOME and vice versa.

Even with Fedora's love for Gnome the right place is the mailinglist then, not the telegram channel that is full of people who are not about to solve the problem

Probably true considering Fedora's love for GNOME and vice versa.

No, just rants are never a good thing.

Even with Fedora's love for Gnome the right place is the mailinglist then, not the telegram channel that is full of people who are not about to solve the problem

Yeah, that too.

Well, then the answer is build one or use something else ;)

The problem is much wider. This leads only to one thing. And it is not Linux based unfortunately. I've tried KDE today again. It was sixth attempt I guess. Tried to plug in HDMI display and watch a movie. Was surprised how hard it is to direct sound to HDMI output in terms of UX. And there were some other UX fails. Sitched back to Gnome. Wrote the rant:)

Have you given Cinnamon a try?

The problem is much wider. This leads only to one thing. And it is not Linux based unfortunately. I've tried KDE today again. It was sixth attempt I guess. Tried to plug in HDMI display and watch a movie. Was surprised how hard it is to direct sound to HDMI output in terms of UX. And there were some other UX fails. Sitched back to Gnome. Wrote the rant:)

I have no problem with ranting, I just wanted to point out, that there are places to rant where they can actually help to improve something and some places where it's just a waste of key presses. And that's actually the case right now

Probably true considering Fedora's love for GNOME and vice versa.

This is why this is exactly the place. I'm trying to bring up the subject which is really important for many users out there in the community. If I wouldn't care I'd just throw away Gnome and buy Mac I guess