So, I'm confused now, on Arch my wifi doesn't work on my T430, Same for fedora, however about a week ago it worked on both with no configuration

Interesting. Does it work on the live USB?

So, I'm confused now, on Arch my wifi doesn't work on my T430, Same for fedora, however about a week ago it worked on both with no configuration

Sure you didnt disabled the hardware key ?

Interesting. Does it work on the live USB?

Nope

Sure you didnt disabled the hardware key ?

Nope, I thought I did so I checked

I did once...

Nope

Oh wow ?

What card does It use for wlan

Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205

Don't know that hardware

@Wolfshappen You might be happy... finally going to try fedora for daily use again

There's a netinstaller, right?

Nevermind, got it

@Wolfshappen You might be happy... finally going to try fedora for daily use again

Nice!!! Which DE/WM?

Nice!!! Which DE/WM?

Gnome or i3

Gnome or i3

Aight, why not do both?

Aight, why not do both?

I don't like... About anything from gnome, however it's preinstalled

I don't like... About anything from gnome, however it's preinstalled

Netinstall + i3, then? You can select your own default apps...

Netinstall + i3, then? You can select your own default apps...

The options were "additional window managers"

So, shrug

The options were "additional window managers"

Oh. Please post a pic here, if you can of the de options...

Oh. Please post a pic here, if you can of the de options...

It was only actual DE's, no WM's, already got past that stage through so no pics

It was only actual DE's, no WM's, already got past that stage through so no pics

Aight, nvm, I'll try it in qemu sometime...

What happens if you go into additional WMs, btw?

What happens if you go into additional WMs, btw?

It wasn't a drop down :P

I'm honestly not knowing what's going to happen

It wasn't a drop down :P

Aiii, OK... I remember anarchy offering more options...

Aiii, OK... I remember anarchy offering more options...

Anarchy would have been great if it had working wifi :P

I'm honestly not knowing what's going to happen

Nah, you could nuke the partition if you have to.

Nah, you could nuke the partition if you have to.

Or dnf remove :P

Anarchy would have been great if it had working wifi :P

Mmhmm, yeah, I tether off of my phone, so I just set up a USB...

Yeah, this installer was so fucked I couldn't even do that

Both the GUI and CLI Versions

Or dnf remove :P

Yeah, sure. But nuking is so much more fun... (My most recent nukes were all Ubuntu)

Yeah, this installer was so fucked I couldn't even do that

There's only so much a net installer can do without internet

Yeah, this installer was so fucked I couldn't even do that

That's a shame .. I'll have to try it sometime, on my old laptop

But doesn't USB tethering count as Ethernet by default?

There's only so much a net installer can do without internet

Nothing, that is.

But doesn't USB tethering count as Ethernet by default?

Yes

But a different nic

But a different nic

?

When I was using actual Ethernet it worked but was slow as fuck

When I was using actual Ethernet it worked but was slow as fuck

Oh crap.

Which would imply bad mirrors, but I wasn't able to wget something over 1MB/s

Which would imply bad mirrors, but I wasn't able to wget something over 1MB/s

You still mean anarchy, right?

Yeah

Doesn't pacman offer to select the closest mirror? Or atleast manually select it for you?

Doesn't pacman offer to select the closest mirror? Or atleast manually select it for you?

It wasn't a mirror issue

If wget doesn't even let me do stuff

If wget doesn't even let me do stuff

Oh right, OK. But I'm on 15 kbps internet, so 1 MB/s seems like wonderland for me :P

Lol

Yeah, I have to try anarchy and Fedora's netinstall if I visit a friend, sometime (I have an old PC just for that)

Fedora netinstall is damn good so far

Fedora netinstall is damn good so far

Afaict, all of Fedora is. :P

But great to hear that you're having a good experience!

Well that lasted long :P

Not a thing on the web client

Can I stay here without being a fedora user ?

There are many of us who use distributions other than Fedora. As long as you are respectful and also know that most of the discusson is centered around Fedora, it's fine. See the pinned message for more info.

You can access the AUR From fedora, if you want

Wait, actually? How does that work?? ?

Does steam run on fedora ?

Yep! Available in RPMFusion. https://rpmfusion.org/

This is the open source build of telegram @xvitaly has put up for us all to enjoy, you can study it.

Oh, is @xvitaly the packager for the RPMFusion version?

ERROR: S client not available

Every arch user is just doing it because we love it when shit breaks and we learn so much from it

I think that's usually why people use Arch. I respect Arch for that reason. But it's not something I would ever use on a system that I need and rely on. For example, habitually running an update right before giving a presentation… ?

Heh, new milestone ?

Is there any telegram group for RMS-fans/users of free software distros/etc? Just interesting...

There's a few suggested groups in the pinned message. For example, this is one of them: https://t.me/freeopensource

What is tilix

Tilix: https://fedoramagazine.org/try-tilix-new-terminal-emulator-fedora/

Gnome or i3

i3wm is nice on Fedora. I think of all the window managers out there, i3wm is the most popular in this group.

Speaking of i3wm as its own install option, there was a gent trying to create a i3wm spin for Fedora, but I think it was a lot of work for one person to take on, and he wasn't able to finish it. https://bollocks.fedorapeople.org/i3spin.html

Looks like he has a Fedora 26 Copr, but that was the last thing that was done for it: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/bollocks/i3_spin/

I think he was looking for help, but had a hard time finding it

Well that lasted long :P

If you experience instability problems with gnome shell you may not have a stable wayland - this is one of the cases where when you login you should hit that gear and select "gnome on xorg".

It will remember that choice and if you dont encounter further crashes it might be that your gpu (multi gpu or nvidia is worst for this) is not yet ready for wayland daily use. Yet.

Hey y'all. Is anyone else experiencing major lag on Fedora 27 with the latest availible kernel from repos? I'm using 4.13.9 which is the kernel that came with the install but I'm still experiencing some lag, but it's still smoother than the latest 4.14 kernel. I remember Fedora 26 being really smooth navigating GNOME in my time use it, and now I'm back using Fedora 27. Who[m] should I be contacting?

Hey y'all. Is anyone else experiencing major lag on Fedora 27 with the latest availible kernel from repos? I'm using 4.13.9 which is the kernel that came with the install but I'm still experiencing some lag, but it's still smoother than the latest 4.14 kernel. I remember Fedora 26 being really smooth navigating GNOME in my time use it, and now I'm back using Fedora 27. Who[m] should I be contacting?

You may have been hit by the meltdown patch, especially on a weak intel cpu.

It can slow down your system and tasks by up to 30% - the same applies for all oses. Its worst for heavy file system access and slow cpus to begin with.

You can contact one of the lawyers trying to prepare a class action lawsuit against intel or go the dangerous, data exposing, dont do it option to disable the mitigation experimentally.

You may have been hit by the meltdown patch, especially on a weak intel cpu.

Do you consider an Intel Core I7 4800-MQ @3.7GHz a weak CPU? I think that's a solid CPU for a laptop anyway

You can contact one of the lawyers trying to prepare a class action lawsuit against intel or go the dangerous, data exposing, dont do it option to disable the mitigation experimentally.

I didn't think meltdown was patchable I thought once hardware was vulnerable you couldn't patch it

You can contact one of the lawyers trying to prepare a class action lawsuit against intel or go the dangerous, data exposing, dont do it option to disable the mitigation experimentally.

Did you mean *lawyers* instead of layers?

Do you consider an Intel Core I7 4800-MQ @3.7GHz a weak CPU? I think that's a solid CPU for a laptop anyway

Do you have multiple gpus or an nvidia card?

Do you have multiple gpus or an nvidia card?

The aforementioned CPU and an AMD 8790M GPU running the radeon OSS driver and for some reason doesn't use Wayland

I didn't think meltdown was patchable I thought once hardware was vulnerable you couldn't patch it

Spectre isnt hardly patchable, meltdown was the intel specific branch prediction

Spectre isnt hardly patchable, meltdown was the intel specific branch prediction

I should probably do some reading on it I have no idea what you're talking about ?

The aforementioned CPU and an AMD 8790M GPU running the radeon OSS driver and for some reason doesn't use Wayland

Could you just for fun try to disable the amd in your bios?

To see if the dual gpu setup might cause some disturbance.

Could you just for fun try to disable the amd in your bios?

I've played around in my bios to know that it's a really shitty one and I can't do that

Well Ubuntu 16.04 running a the latest revision of 4.10 kernel ran like a charm

Well, last things of the top of my head: hdd instead of ssd? docking station?

The lag is managable on 4.13.9 but it's unbearable on 4.14.11

The lag is managable on 4.13.9 but it's unbearable on 4.14.11

.11 is the one with the 30% slowdown

Well, last things of the top of my head: hdd instead of ssd? docking station?

Crucial MX300 SSD 750GB

Tontest the hypothesis, reboot and when grub shows you the selection press e

.11 is the one with the 30% slowdown

I can still feel some lag on the 4.13.9 though

Tontest the hypothesis, reboot and when grub shows you the selection press e

On which entry?