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sımao
07.01.2018
21:09:26
Lol wat

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:09:46
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/telegram-desktop-git/
No versioning, thus no checksum checks, hard dependency on openssl 1.0, and looks heaps more complicated than the spec.

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:10:30
I stick with RHEL/CentOS/Fedora.
I'll take RHEL And Fedora :P

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Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:10:31
Huh?
Company, Contracts and using arch is like saying i want to pack my stuff and leave. Same for gentoo or anything that isnt either redhat or has better commercial support.

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:11:16
But whyyy
Because we get paid that stuff doesnt break, thus the requirements put in place so we can tell customers their stuff will very likely not break.

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:11:21
But whyyy
You don't use arch in a production environment

It's a very bad idea

For your own machine? Sure

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:11:42
And unlike arch, with unstable builds, unstable pkbuilds that dont get maintained or might be DCMA'd someday ...

sımao
07.01.2018
21:11:48
cocoa
07.01.2018
21:11:49
But you can use it on your workstation?
Yeah, that's what I was asking

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:11:55
But you can use it on your workstation?
No, Fedora too. Not that i'd have an intention to switch.

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Barrel
07.01.2018
21:11:56
But you can use it on your workstation?
Not if he has to build things for a certain client

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:12:11
I had seen to many problems on arch that on the exact same version of libs on Fedora never happened.

sımao
07.01.2018
21:12:17
I thought he was saying that he is not allows to use arch on his workstation

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:12:25
Even on others, just today with someone's A2DP not working.

sımao
07.01.2018
21:12:29
I use arch at work so yeah...

sımao
07.01.2018
21:12:44
Lol

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:12:59
Truth is

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:13:09
Not if he has to build things for a certain client
BuildENV is jenkins, but i have to be able to login at any second.

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:13:28
Every arch user is just doing it because we love it when shit breaks and we learn so much from it

Or at least I am

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:13:37
If my pc is stuck because -SyU broke something i get every minute deducted from my pay.

sımao
07.01.2018
21:13:39
cocoa
07.01.2018
21:13:46
Also, the AUR is community

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:13:46
Barrel
07.01.2018
21:13:55
I don't have shit break /shrug

sımao
07.01.2018
21:13:57
cocoa
07.01.2018
21:13:57
Google
cocoa
07.01.2018
21:14:11
Packages.archlinux.org

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:14:12
Also, the AUR is community
Same for rpmfusion.

because else fedora could be sued over media licenses.

sımao
07.01.2018
21:14:41
Would have raged out if you said you are allowed to use windows

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:14:42
I'm not familiar with rpmfusion. Lemme Google what it is

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:15:04
https://rpmfusion.org/FAQ#What_is_RPM_Fusion.3F

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:15:23
So Rpm fusion is just community mentioned repository of packages?

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:15:39
So Rpm fusion is just community mentioned repository of packages?
One with a lot of oversight and strict guidelines.

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:15:49
How do you create a package for rpmfusion?

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:15:51
Something the AUR should strive to be more imho.

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:15:59
I admit that

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:16:06
But

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:16:09
Something the AUR should strive to be more imho.
It's both a blessing and a curse

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:16:15
How do you create a package for rpmfusion?
You make a spec, notify the admins in IRC or another way and let them confirm you dont pull binaries/do shady stuff.

ask xvitaly if you want to know more.

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:16:27
The fact that it's so unregulated means that it can have a huge number of packages.

It's a sacrifice of stability for quantity

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:16:42
48 Trusted users and 49956 Registered

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Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:16:54
The fact that it's so unregulated means that it can have a huge number of packages.
That can be sued out of existence tomorrow. I dont want that to happen when i manage several hundred servers.

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:16:56
And that's your choice

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:17:11


Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:17:14
But all this, everything, has been said before.

Just search this chat for "AUR"

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:18:04
Barrel
07.01.2018
21:18:06


cocoa
07.01.2018
21:18:14
Everyone is painfully aware of that

But it's kinda awesome that it even exists

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:18:23
telegram-desktop-dev just got updated :P

Admin
ERROR: S client not available

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:18:28
Like, literally seconds ago

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:18:35
Haha.

Yeah, and since it's so easy to make PKGBUILDs, updates roll out quick

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:19:11
in which case you're slow as shit

And should probably give the package name to discord-always-canary

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:19:45
Yeah, and since it's so easy to make PKGBUILDs, updates roll out quick
I'll stick to rock stability. Rhel and centos on servers, fedora for workstations.

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:20:10
Okay

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:20:16
And fedora on my own servers so i know what'll change in 5 years in rhel/to get a taste of THE FUTURE.

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cocoa
07.01.2018
21:20:36
Yeah, that I will give you

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:20:38
Like php-fpm by default since F27 and painless config transition trough dnf.

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:20:46




cocoa
07.01.2018
21:20:48
Arch cannot do that. We're not nearly organized enough

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:20:50
I wonder which is less efficient

Hint, the one that requires manually updating the pkgbuild

sımao
07.01.2018
21:22:11
That can be sued out of existence tomorrow. I dont want that to happen when i manage several hundred servers.
The actual packages are mostly downloaded directly from their sources and then converted/installed/whatever

sımao
07.01.2018
21:23:30
What
Yeah for the same reason he is not allowed to use windows

Wouter ^-^ ?
07.01.2018
21:23:31
Do you get paid per hour??

sımao
07.01.2018
21:23:39
Because it can break anytime

Windows is worse tho

Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:24:40
Do you get paid per hour??
That too and 50% extra overtime. But no, if i cant react to a client because pc problems i (pac update) caused its my pay on the line.

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:24:59
Yeah, I was wondering. Is linking to copyrighted content/software a violation?

cocoa
07.01.2018
21:25:16
Like downloading a file with links to the mp3 codec

Barrel
07.01.2018
21:25:24
Tobias?
07.01.2018
21:25:26
sımao
07.01.2018
21:25:32
spotify/intellij paid versions are
You are paying for the license not for the product

You can download it anytime from the official site

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