And their self control, which I don't have ?

I have a lot of self-control. Except for photography stuff and computers. But alas, I have no money, so.....

similar with laptops, you can get the regular one, more expensive one or the smaller one, select simple details like amount of ram and hdd and you're done, comparing with the hundreds of options in Windows/Linux boxes, here it is simpler, and while MacOSX is an abomination of an OS, people don't see it that way

Why abominable? The times I used it, I liked it.

I have a lot of self-control. Except for photography stuff and computers. But alas, I have no money, so.....

Haha, well I guess we all have some weakness. Money is nothing but an enabler. Super danger.

Why abominable? The times I used it, I liked it.

it crashes, you cannot customize it, it lacks features

it crashes, you cannot customize it, it lacks features

Which features it lacks? I didn't notice.

The easiest way to find a good laptop is "Linux preinstalled" button in online stores

I'm using it in this very moment, and it is okay for terminal usage, web and other simple tasks, but for the rest of it you start noticing its shortcomings

I'm using it in this very moment, and it is okay for terminal usage, web and other simple tasks, but for the rest of it you start noticing its shortcomings

Like...?

Which features it lacks? I didn't notice.

no focus-follows-mouse, htop doesn't work on latest release, these are the two which come to my mind without thinking too much

no focus-follows-mouse, htop doesn't work on latest release, these are the two which come to my mind without thinking too much

Oh, I don't use them.

I can happily live without them.

I actually do! ?

The only I dislike of Apple is the icons design. For the rest, I find it quite fine. And it has all those programmes I can't run anywhere else.

to be honest, I am happy with the battery life and the form factor, but it someone would give me macbook air with linux and same battery life, I would switch in an instant

https://njr.sabi.net/2018/01/03/a-list-of-macos-tvos-and-ios-bugs-i-encountered-while-helping-my-family-over-the-holidays/

in general - I'm using it for about a year now, and it's not perfect in any way as people said some time ago

to be honest, I am happy with the battery life and the form factor, but it someone would give me macbook air with linux and same battery life, I would switch in an instant

Yeah, but we give them different uses. An Apple for me is sound/video/image/arts work. So I don't want any other system except Mac on it. If I want something else, I use the laptop I already have.

You know abot ProRes video codec? It's the Apple professioal video codec which renders on macOS faster than other codecs on any OS. I know one guy who is using Apple products because of that

You know abot ProRes video codec? It's the Apple professioal video codec which renders on macOS faster than other codecs on any OS. I know one guy who is using Apple products because of that

I don't doubt there are some niche uses. But in general, the OS is buggy, and being a programmer, Linux provides much more value for me, but truth is that there is nothing Mac-specific that I would use (as I'm not an iPhone developer, fortunately)

You know abot ProRes video codec? It's the Apple professioal video codec which renders on macOS faster than other codecs on any OS. I know one guy who is using Apple products because of that

That's pretty cool!

I don't doubt there are some niche uses. But in general, the OS is buggy, and being a programmer, Linux provides much more value for me, but truth is that there is nothing Mac-specific that I would use (as I'm not an iPhone developer, fortunately)

You can code for iPhones not only on mac...some propritary IDE's gives that option....but it's proprietary so hell with them

I don't doubt there are some niche uses. But in general, the OS is buggy, and being a programmer, Linux provides much more value for me, but truth is that there is nothing Mac-specific that I would use (as I'm not an iPhone developer, fortunately)

Design, Photography, Audio & Video editing are not niche uses. There are thousands of people doing in and many more having it as hobby or amateur activity.

They are as "niche use" as programming.

The another main problem of apple devices is non-removable batteries

But that strange trend is coming to Android devices now too..

Design, Photography, Audio & Video editing are not niche uses. There are thousands of people doing in and many more having it as hobby or amateur activity.

I agree with this. I'm certainly no professional, but I work with video editing and rendering a fair bit, as well as image and model rendering.

The another main problem of apple devices is non-removable batteries

Yeah, this is true.

But that strange trend is coming to Android devices now too..

Because a battery will be exhausted before the device, typically. This way they force you to throw the whole thing and buy a new one even if the device itself is perfectly working.

There is always the case of the battery wearing down by the time you look for a new device anyway.

It happened to me some months ago: Someone was showing off an impressive Samsung Galaxy, telling me all the cool features it has and I was like "Ehr, the battery is not removable". And she goes and says "Yeah, but that's like your iPhone". But what a comparison! My iPhone costed me 200€ and it's small nice thing. That Samsung costed almost 1000€ and it's huge, almost like a pro camera and computer put together. I don't want to throw away 1000€ just like that!

There is always the case of the battery wearing down by the time you look for a new device anyway.

Yes, of course. And it might get broken before the battery is over too.

Because a battery will be exhausted before the device, typically. This way they force you to throw the whole thing and buy a new one even if the device itself is perfectly working.

You can still buy a battery for Nokia 3310(The old one)

LMAO

It happened to me some months ago: Someone was showing off an impressive Samsung Galaxy, telling me all the cool features it has and I was like "Ehr, the battery is not removable". And she goes and says "Yeah, but that's like your iPhone". But what a comparison! My iPhone costed me 200€ and it's small nice thing. That Samsung costed almost 1000€ and it's huge, almost like a pro camera and computer put together. I don't want to throw away 1000€ just like that!

My samsung galaxy has a removable battery.... But it doesn't cost 1000 euro

My samsung galaxy has a removable battery.... But it doesn't cost 1000 euro

Yeah, but that's my point. I want to be able to keep using my device as long as it's working.

Thinkpad is Lenovo. There are no IBM now. But I wasn't talking about Yoga, that's a different model and very shitty one.

Ah yes, newest thinkpad is shit. sent from Lenovo Thinkpad P40 Yoga

LMAO

My samsung galaxy has a removable battery.... But it doesn't cost 1000 euro

I think Samsung wants to get a maximum cash from fanboys and people who is able to buy such an expensive models per year

But they don't annoy ordinary people though

True. But every brand has its fanboys, and it's wise of them to make use of that.

They do their business and I do my choices.

It's strange to be a fanboy nowadays

almost everything in tech is made in China, usually on same facilities

People need to like a single devices now, not brands

Thinkpad is Lenovo. There are no IBM now. But I wasn't talking about Yoga, that's a different model and very shitty one.

I have a ThinkPad R500, IBM design but then under Lenovo Brand. Running strong on F27

Unfortunately, new ones are not as good

Running on a poor Core2Duo P8400 with 8gb

But, true It is, better disabling Wayland

Wayland gives the cursor a stuttering while Gnome is doing animations

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I have an idea to keep my Fedora systems fresh, by visiting a friend's home every Tuesdays and Wednesdays, which his networks are matched for my need to always upgrade my systems.

I have an idea to keep my Fedora systems fresh, by visiting a friend's home every Tuesdays and Wednesdays, which his networks are matched for my need to always upgrade my systems.

Leeching ftw eh xd

Wow, leave it to Red Hat to explain Meltdown / Spectre in a way even my mother could understand.

https://youtu.be/syAdX44pokE

If you aren't on top of what's going on right now, this 3 minute video lays out it very simply and plainly ^

I heard, processors that Raspberry Pi uses, don't have this "command prediction" stuff which Meltdown/Spectre1/Spectre2 uses, at all

I heard, processors that Raspberry Pi uses, don't have this "command prediction" stuff which Meltdown/Spectre1/Spectre2 uses, at all

I know Raspberry Pis use their own ARM specification, but I know that ARM64 is affected by Spectre. If it's something important for you, I would make sure to verify that fact with a reputable source.

And if you didn't already know, Raspberry Pis do use the ARM processor architecture, but if I remember right, it's one that's really only used by Raspberry Pi. That's one of the reasons Fedora took so long to get support on them.

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ARM processors can be so confusing to me, because somehow they're all the same, but at the same time, so many of them are so different. There's so many different specifications for ARM and I don't do enough embedded computing to know enough about them.

Also, related to the above, a Fedora kernel engineer, Laura Abbott, writes about the new Kernel Page Table Isolation (KPTI) that fixes Meltdown and partially fixes Spectre. I'm actually reading this right now: https://fedoramagazine.org/kpti-new-kernel-feature-mitigate-meltdown/

I know Raspberry Pis use their own ARM specification, but I know that ARM64 is affected by Spectre. If it's something important for you, I would make sure to verify that fact with a reputable source.

They don't use ARM64, and they also said that on official sites https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/why-raspberry-pi-isnt-vulnerable-to-spectre-or-meltdown/

Also, related to the above, a Fedora kernel engineer, Laura Abbott, writes about the new Kernel Page Table Isolation (KPTI) that fixes Meltdown and partially fixes Spectre. I'm actually reading this right now: https://fedoramagazine.org/kpti-new-kernel-feature-mitigate-meltdown/

This is actually a really good read for anyone that wants to understand the technical fix and how the attack works, without reading the white paper.

They don't use ARM64, and they also said that on official sites https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/why-raspberry-pi-isnt-vulnerable-to-spectre-or-meltdown/

Awesome, this is good to know then! Thanks for sharing the source. ?

If you aren't on top of what's going on right now, this 3 minute video lays out it very simply and plainly ^

Oh, thank you!

I mean, META in 2018? It only makes confusing.

It svaes the historical things

Historical concepts *

hello! Someone know how can I execute de service with a root or sudo? this script works, but I need that service "python3 /home/script/chat_bot/chatbot.py" execute with root, how I can do? Script: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/home/asimoes/.local/bin:/home/asimoes/bin # Conta a quantide de processos ativos para o serviço chatbot.py processo_ativo=$(ps aux | grep -v grep | grep -c -i "chatbot.py") #Se o valor de processo_ativo for menor que 1 o serviço será iniciado if [ $processo_ativo -lt 1 ] then python3 /home/script/chat_bot/chatbot.py fi

hello! Someone know how can I execute de service with a root or sudo? this script works, but I need that service "python3 /home/script/chat_bot/chatbot.py" execute with root, how I can do? Script: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/home/asimoes/.local/bin:/home/asimoes/bin # Conta a quantide de processos ativos para o serviço chatbot.py processo_ativo=$(ps aux | grep -v grep | grep -c -i "chatbot.py") #Se o valor de processo_ativo for menor que 1 o serviço será iniciado if [ $processo_ativo -lt 1 ] then python3 /home/script/chat_bot/chatbot.py fi

This may answer your question: https://fedoramagazine.org/howto-use-sudo/

Just be careful about running things as root or with sudo. Anything you run, you are giving full control over your system. Always be sure about what you're doing and you trust any script you are running when using root / sudo. @Andre_Simoes

Just be careful about running things as root or with sudo. Anything you run, you are giving full control over your system. Always be sure about what you're doing and you trust any script you are running when using root / sudo. @Andre_Simoes

Ok, tk vm Justin!

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Ok, tk vm Justin!

? No problem, good luck!

hello! Someone know how can I execute de service with a root or sudo? this script works, but I need that service "python3 /home/script/chat_bot/chatbot.py" execute with root, how I can do? Script: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/home/asimoes/.local/bin:/home/asimoes/bin # Conta a quantide de processos ativos para o serviço chatbot.py processo_ativo=$(ps aux | grep -v grep | grep -c -i "chatbot.py") #Se o valor de processo_ativo for menor que 1 o serviço será iniciado if [ $processo_ativo -lt 1 ] then python3 /home/script/chat_bot/chatbot.py fi

You absolutely should not.

You absolutely should not.

If you tell someone not to do something, help them understand by explaining why it is they shouldn't do something. It may be obvious to you and me, but maybe not to a beginner.

"running things as root is dangerous, can compromise your system, a single bug in a program, especially chatbots, can make others execute root commands and destroy your pc or server remotely, unrestorable...." I mean when you enter sudo you are given a warning too but i dont get why one would want that chatbot running as root.

I mean its not like anyone is managing systems over irc chatbots. At least i hope nobody does.

"running things as root is dangerous, can compromise your system, a single bug in a program, especially chatbots, can make others execute root commands and destroy your pc or server remotely, unrestorable...." I mean when you enter sudo you are given a warning too but i dont get why one would want that chatbot running as root.

? Thanks for explaining!

Good thing to be aware of too, @Andre_Simoes ^^

"running things as root is dangerous, can compromise your system, a single bug in a program, especially chatbots, can make others execute root commands and destroy your pc or server remotely, unrestorable...." I mean when you enter sudo you are given a warning too but i dont get why one would want that chatbot running as root.

Very nice!!! Thank you very much!!!

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