Ah. I saw them in movies. Never understood what are they for.

Yes, that's it. Paediatrics.

Does she specialize in a field inside paediatrics? What does she do now? Practice?

Professors often tell you "You don't need to buy the book, we're not going to use it all."

In Italy you need work for one month for pay a book's

From your uni? They look nice....

From your uni? They look nice....

Google image search ?

Does she specialize in a field inside paediatrics? What does she do now? Practice?

No, she retired long ago. From everything.

Google image search ?

Oh my bad. ..

I don't see many US universities that have lockers, though – in my experience, it's only the high schools

There may be some exceptions

No, she retired long ago. From everything.

Pardon my autism, is that euphemism for passed away?

In Italy you need work for one month for pay a book's

Interestingly enough. Often books for the first years of high school are as expensive or more than the ones for preuniversity and technical course.

Pardon my autism, is that euphemism for passed away?

Yup.

I don't see many US universities that have lockers, though – in my experience, it's only the high schools

Mostly, yeah, but most dental schools here, I think have it.

Yup.

Oh, my condolences. May I ask how?

Interestingly enough. Often books for the first years of high school are as expensive or more than the ones for preuniversity and technical course.

Yeap, the kids' schoolbags are also heavier, here, at least.

She suffered of blood pressure and weakened heart. One she just couldn't keep it on.

Oh, my condolences. May I ask how?

Sorry to dig this up, btw...

Mostly, yeah, but most dental schools here, I think have it.

Interesting. Sometimes, I think I learn the most interesting things about different cultures and countries from this group. ?

She suffered of blood pressure and weakened heart. One she just couldn't keep it on.

Very sorry to hear that.

Sorry to dig this up, btw...

Oh, no worries.

Interesting. Sometimes, I think I learn the most interesting things about different cultures and countries from this group. ?

From Uruguay to India to Italy to Russia…

Interesting. Sometimes, I think I learn the most interesting things about different cultures and countries from this group. ?

Yeah, another thing to love about Linux... You'd never see this in a m$ group (there'd be no time to speak between BSODs :P)

From Uruguay to India to Italy to Russia…

Yup, Fedora's reach is diverse.

Yeah, another thing to love about Linux... You'd never see this in a m$ group (there'd be no time to speak between BSODs :P)

lolol. Or for me, it's figuring out how to get UNIX-y software working on Windows… ? I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing that I never owned a Windows machine in my life

I don't see many US universities that have lockers, though – in my experience, it's only the high schools

I never seen a high school or a university with lockers in my life, and I already visited a few. Also it doesn't looks to me like a useful thing. I mean, everything you need fits in a bag. Maybe in USA schools are far away from each other?

I never seen a high school or a university with lockers in my life, and I already visited a few. Also it doesn't looks to me like a useful thing. I mean, everything you need fits in a bag. Maybe in USA schools are far away from each other?

I never had one in high school, but I knew many people who did. Usually, it would be for storing heavy textbooks that they may only need for one class in a day.

From Uruguay to India to Italy to Russia…

And that because I don't want to get in the hassle of explaining how German secondary education works ?

Maybe other things too, like food or something else more fragile

lolol. Or for me, it's figuring out how to get UNIX-y software working on Windows… ? I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing that I never owned a Windows machine in my life

Imho, that's a very, very, good thing. I feel saddened to look at windows on our college computers, and on those my profs use... (Most of my close friends use some form of Linux, two even use Fedora, yay!)

Imho, that's a very, very, good thing. I feel saddened to look at windows on our college computers, and on those my profs use... (Most of my close friends use some form of Linux, two even use Fedora, yay!)

Hahah, I'm always okay with it until I have to use a Windows machine, like for a university practical exam, and then I try to figure out how to do the most basic things.

I never seen a high school or a university with lockers in my life, and I already visited a few. Also it doesn't looks to me like a useful thing. I mean, everything you need fits in a bag. Maybe in USA schools are far away from each other?

We usually store stuff there for months on end, when we need it in college everyday for a month (duration of a posting), but don't need to carry it home and bring it back everyday.

Like this last semester for me, I had a web development final exam where we had to make a simple website in a two hour period. I think I spent more time figuring out how to use SFTP and a decent text editor than working on the exam. ?

Only because the computer was Windows, and I always used my Fedora laptop in the class for assignments or labs

I never had one in high school, but I knew many people who did. Usually, it would be for storing heavy textbooks that they may only need for one class in a day.

Oh, right. No, you're not suppose to bring the heavy stuff. Just read it at home. Actually, it's not welcome that you bring everything (some people do it, usually without actually reading the text). And professors have a saying "You don't acquire knowledge by osmosis, you have to read".

Yeah, another thing to love about Linux... You'd never see this in a m$ group (there'd be no time to speak between BSODs :P)

Maybe, in 80's apple community was "thinking different" but now - it's the Linux community

Like this last semester for me, I had a web development final exam where we had to make a simple website in a two hour period. I think I spent more time figuring out how to use SFTP and a decent text editor than working on the exam. ?

:) they don't let you look at the computers and configure them before hand? Or better yet, live boot atleast, a distro of choice?

We usually store stuff there for months on end, when we need it in college everyday for a month (duration of a posting), but don't need to carry it home and bring it back everyday.

Yeah, that's the similar use for them in US high schools. I guess it's different for US universities since you don't always have back-to-back classes, so you could either go back and put your textbooks or unneeded things in on-campus housing or in a car.

Maybe, in 80's apple community was "thinking different" but now - it's the Linux community

??

Maybe, in 80's apple community was "thinking different" but now - it's the Linux community

So much this, yeah. And coz it's open sauce and not a walled garden, everyone's voices are heard, and the whole process becomes a lot more fun.

Oh, right. No, you're not suppose to bring the heavy stuff. Just read it at home. Actually, it's not welcome that you bring everything (some people do it, usually without actually reading the text). And professors have a saying "You don't acquire knowledge by osmosis, you have to read".

Nice, imma borrow that, hopefully use it against my profs sometime :P

Oh, right. No, you're not suppose to bring the heavy stuff. Just read it at home. Actually, it's not welcome that you bring everything (some people do it, usually without actually reading the text). And professors have a saying "You don't acquire knowledge by osmosis, you have to read".

My experience in education systems is always buying textbooks and never using them… even for classes where they are used ?

Maybe other things too, like food or something else more fragile

I saw lockers, now I think about it (this shows how slow is my memory), but not for students stuff but for sports/gyms. But I never attended sports or gyms in my life, and most of high schools don't have a dedicated area for it either.

My experience in education systems is always buying textbooks and never using them… even for classes where they are used ?

Yeap, that is true, I feel ya

My experience in education systems is always buying textbooks and never using them… even for classes where they are used ?

???

I mean, it consist of tons if other sub-communities which is completely different, but something keeps all of them united and diversed at the same time

It's a phenomena

:) they don't let you look at the computers and configure them before hand? Or better yet, live boot atleast, a distro of choice?

I wish. We use software called Deep Freeze for the Windows and macOS systems at my university. So every user has admin access and can do whatever they want, but when the system is restarted, it goes back to the original state. A bootable OS would be cool, but it would get us a failing grade since some students could probably cheat by loading it with files or code to help them complete it faster.

...but not all of linux comunity thinks different, debian/ubuntu comunity totally not

I saw lockers, now I think about it (this shows how slow is my memory), but not for students stuff but for sports/gyms. But I never attended sports or gyms in my life, and most of high schools don't have a dedicated area for it either.

Ahh, yeah – now that you mention it too, the only lockers I see at my university are for gym equipment / clothing. We also had special lockers for gym classes in our high schools too

???

Maybe this is why I cannot go for a master's degree, I will have to start reading my textbooks ?

I wish. We use software called Deep Freeze for the Windows and macOS systems at my university. So every user has admin access and can do whatever they want, but when the system is restarted, it goes back to the original state. A bootable OS would be cool, but it would get us a failing grade since some students could probably cheat by loading it with files or code to help them complete it faster.

Oh sure, yeah, I forgot that bit, re: bootable OSes. (But a prof could look over the iso which you can present before the exams?) Re: deep freeze, ok, I'm kinda familiar with that, we had similar setups at my school...

...but not all of linux comunity thinks different, debian/ubuntu comunity totally not

Well, the debian community is a lot more open and understanding than the Ubuntu community is, afaict.

...but not all of linux comunity thinks different, debian/ubuntu comunity totally not

I think it all depends. I know of some Fedora communities that are adamant and obnoxious about only using free software, in a Stallman-style approach. To me, neither the extreme of all proprietary or all open source is a good strategy.

...but not all of linux comunity thinks different, debian/ubuntu comunity totally not

Why not? It consist of Ubuntu-newbies, Mint-normies, Debian-explorers, Debian-testing-pro's, Trisquel/gNewSense -freedom fighters and Tails/Kali-anarchists

Maybe this is why I cannot go for a master's degree, I will have to start reading my textbooks ?

Maybe you'll like digital books more, or library copies (I prefer both, so maybe, you're experience would be similar...)

Oh sure, yeah, I forgot that bit, re: bootable OSes. (But a prof could look over the iso which you can present before the exams?) Re: deep freeze, ok, I'm kinda familiar with that, we had similar setups at my school...

But then you're asking them to do extra work or you could do something especially tricky to hide files… I don't think most professors, at least, at my university, would be willing to do this. If it's not a university policy even.

I think it all depends. I know of some Fedora communities that are adamant and obnoxious about only using free software, in a Stallman-style approach. To me, neither the extreme of all proprietary or all open source is a good strategy.

I find it almost impossible to believe a fedora community with obnoxious people, but that's just me, and my experience with this tg group, mostly...

Ahh, yeah – now that you mention it too, the only lockers I see at my university are for gym equipment / clothing. We also had special lockers for gym classes in our high schools too

Yeah, the thing in Uruguay, and I think it happens the same in Argentine, it's that most of primary and high schools aren't build for the purpose of teaching but for something else. The ministry simply borrows or buys a big house or building, changes some stuff and that's the school for you. If it's a centric area, even a new building will struggle to find space enough to put a field or room for sports, so they just build the classrooms and stuff and send students to do sports or gym in their closest park or square.

Or share with another institution. Some times it happens.

But then you're asking them to do extra work or you could do something especially tricky to hide files… I don't think most professors, at least, at my university, would be willing to do this. If it's not a university policy even.

Ah, OK, makes sense, yeah...

Yeah, the thing in Uruguay, and I think it happens the same in Argentine, it's that most of primary and high schools aren't build for the purpose of teaching but for something else. The ministry simply borrows or buys a big house or building, changes some stuff and that's the school for you. If it's a centric area, even a new building will struggle to find space enough to put a field or room for sports, so they just build the classrooms and stuff and send students to do sports or gym in their closest park or square.

That sounds nice, though, from a students pov, dynamic classrooms.... (I'd love that)

Maybe you'll like digital books more, or library copies (I prefer both, so maybe, you're experience would be similar...)

I buy both… ? But I prefer physical copies of books. I don't have to worry about distractions or being interrupted when I'm reading a physical book. Phone off, laptop away, just a notepad and quiet… I feel like my experience with digital textbooks or reading from my laptop is that I somehow always end up doing open source things when I need to be studying. ?

I find it almost impossible to believe a fedora community with obnoxious people, but that's just me, and my experience with this tg group, mostly...

I think a conscious effort is put in to make it this way here. ?

I buy both… ? But I prefer physical copies of books. I don't have to worry about distractions or being interrupted when I'm reading a physical book. Phone off, laptop away, just a notepad and quiet… I feel like my experience with digital textbooks or reading from my laptop is that I somehow always end up doing open source things when I need to be studying. ?

:)))... You make notes too? You do spidergrams and stuff?

I think a conscious effort is put in to make it this way here. ?

Thanks to the admins, of course :)

Yeah, the thing in Uruguay, and I think it happens the same in Argentine, it's that most of primary and high schools aren't build for the purpose of teaching but for something else. The ministry simply borrows or buys a big house or building, changes some stuff and that's the school for you. If it's a centric area, even a new building will struggle to find space enough to put a field or room for sports, so they just build the classrooms and stuff and send students to do sports or gym in their closest park or square.

Interesting… I haven't ever heard of something like that.

That sounds nice, though, from a students pov, dynamic classrooms.... (I'd love that)

Dynamic classrooms? What do you mean?

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My high school had a dedicated room. That I avoid like the pest, but it had.

Dynamic classrooms? What do you mean?

Wait, I though classrooms changed fairly regularly, isn't that the case?

:)))... You make notes too? You do spidergrams and stuff?

My notetaking style is usually extensive outlines with different tiers of bullets. The only problem is that sometimes I can't settle on how to take notes. I've written them, typed them in LibreOffice, taken notes in IRC with a meeting plugin, and used Markdown files on GitHub… ? But now, I mostly prefer written notes because I find I remember things better when I write them by hand.

Thanks to the admins, of course :)

And the community too ?

Wait, I though classrooms changed fairly regularly, isn't that the case?

No. The classrooms are fixed. What I said is that buildings aren't made for the purpose of alocating a schools but often are just old houses or big buildings that are bought or borrowed, rearrange and open as schools.

microsoft's strtagy: you cant comunicate with us, only pay and use apple's stratagy: we are half-opensource but you should buy our device redhat\fedora strtagy: learn for free, but for prefessional products use you should pay bc we are sponsors of true-opensource canonical\ubuntu stratagy: smth unstable? we dont care. but you can buy our support, or system76 pc

What is dynamic is the sports/gyms thing. If the institution doesn't have a room for it, then students just take their classes in the park. There's always a park or square somewhere around @buredoRUNofthecyborg

Interesting… I haven't ever heard of something like that.

My high school had a gym room. I avoided like the pest, but it existed. And I remember once when some other institute had a problem with their rooms and we had to share ours....

microsoft's strtagy: you cant comunicate with us, only pay and use apple's stratagy: we are half-opensource but you should buy our device redhat\fedora strtagy: learn for free, but for prefessional products use you should pay bc we are sponsors of true-opensource canonical\ubuntu stratagy: smth unstable? we dont care. but you can buy our support, or system76 pc

Patrick Volkerding strategy: If there would be no updates, there wouldn't be new bugs

microsoft's strtagy: you cant comunicate with us, only pay and use apple's stratagy: we are half-opensource but you should buy our device redhat\fedora strtagy: learn for free, but for prefessional products use you should pay bc we are sponsors of true-opensource canonical\ubuntu stratagy: smth unstable? we dont care. but you can buy our support, or system76 pc

LOL

No. The classrooms are fixed. What I said is that buildings aren't made for the purpose of alocating a schools but often are just old houses or big buildings that are bought or borrowed, rearrange and open as schools.

Oh OK, my bad, I misunderstood....

Patrick Volkerding strategy: If there would be no updates, there wouldn't be new bugs

Sounds fair.

Sounds fair.

And it works in some ways

My notetaking style is usually extensive outlines with different tiers of bullets. The only problem is that sometimes I can't settle on how to take notes. I've written them, typed them in LibreOffice, taken notes in IRC with a meeting plugin, and used Markdown files on GitHub… ? But now, I mostly prefer written notes because I find I remember things better when I write them by hand.

I share your pain, I've tried latex in addition to all you've done, none of them worked, so I'm trying spidergram, slideshow presentations and mind maps with labyrinth now....

And the community too ?

Yup!

microsoft's strtagy: you cant comunicate with us, only pay and use apple's stratagy: we are half-opensource but you should buy our device redhat\fedora strtagy: learn for free, but for prefessional products use you should pay bc we are sponsors of true-opensource canonical\ubuntu stratagy: smth unstable? we dont care. but you can buy our support, or system76 pc

I think Canonical is refocusing themselves on servers and IoT, because that's where Ubuntu is doing well. I think that's why their desktop is getting less focus, and why they decided to go back to using GNOME (i.e. a project that isn't just Canonical developers working mostly by themselves).

The strangest thing about microsoft is the filesystems. I mean, why it's so obsolete?

Is there anyone around that's using i3wm? I have a question… or maybe a bug, I don't know.

microsoft's strtagy: you cant comunicate with us, only pay and use apple's stratagy: we are half-opensource but you should buy our device redhat\fedora strtagy: learn for free, but for prefessional products use you should pay bc we are sponsors of true-opensource canonical\ubuntu stratagy: smth unstable? we dont care. but you can buy our support, or system76 pc

? yeah....

My notetaking style is usually extensive outlines with different tiers of bullets. The only problem is that sometimes I can't settle on how to take notes. I've written them, typed them in LibreOffice, taken notes in IRC with a meeting plugin, and used Markdown files on GitHub… ? But now, I mostly prefer written notes because I find I remember things better when I write them by hand.

This happens to me too. I remember things better if I write by hand than if I use my laptop.

What is dynamic is the sports/gyms thing. If the institution doesn't have a room for it, then students just take their classes in the park. There's always a park or square somewhere around @buredoRUNofthecyborg

Yup, OK. :)

The strangest thing about microsoft is the filesystems. I mean, why it's so obsolete?

Defragmentation sucks

I updated my Fedora 27 install maybe a month or two ago, and my battery indicator in my i3bar disappears. However, when I'm plugged into power, my i3bar shows the battery status.

I don't know why it disappears now when I'm running off of battery, but it wasn't always like this…

Yum! What is this, a cookie?

Yeah! ?

I think Canonical is refocusing themselves on servers and IoT, because that's where Ubuntu is doing well. I think that's why their desktop is getting less focus, and why they decided to go back to using GNOME (i.e. a project that isn't just Canonical developers working mostly by themselves).

to make IoT device you use linux-based pc every day, if they dont care about their own workstation they could not build good device

The strangest thing about microsoft is the filesystems. I mean, why it's so obsolete?

For the sake of not upsetting some lost office who might be still using Win95 and only now started to consider to upgrade their computers?

The strangest thing about microsoft is the filesystems. I mean, why it's so obsolete?

Aren't they working on sth new, ruster or Rufus or sth?

Yum!!! (Pun definitely intended :P)

lol

This happens to me too. I remember things better if I write by hand than if I use my laptop.

Yeah. Part of my issue is that I type much faster than I write, but then when I type, I get too many details and I think I miss the points during lectures.

Yeah! ?

Looks yummy – hope it tasted like it looked. ?

I think Canonical is refocusing themselves on servers and IoT, because that's where Ubuntu is doing well. I think that's why their desktop is getting less focus, and why they decided to go back to using GNOME (i.e. a project that isn't just Canonical developers working mostly by themselves).

They could let the community deal with the desktop too, like the other *buntus and most other Linux distros....