LOL hi saltama

Hi vbextreme

Hi vbextreme

Have solve problem with debian software?

Have solve problem with debian software?

at the end i don't use that software

Now i will focus in other things

at the end i don't use that software

Good solution

Good solution

True

May ask what was the problem?

I wanted to make a .deb software works on fedora

But shouldn't be possible

Oh... sad.

Which software is?

https://booktab.it/download/

https://booktab.it/download/

grrr Booktab, I hate that program.

grrr Booktab, I hate that program.

Mh, are you italian ?

I had it on a Windows convertible

Mh, are you italian ?

yep

Oh like me

Good

grrr Booktab, I hate that program.

What is it for?

What is it for?

school books

?

?

Some italian school ebooks need that program to be viewed

Unfortunately there aren't alternative for zanichelli's books

There is a web app but it sucks

Unfortunately there aren't alternative for zanichelli's books

exactly

Some italian school ebooks need that program to be viewed

Meh.... we used normal PDFs for college/schools.

There is a web app but it sucks

but it's still better than Scuolabook.

but it's still better than Scuolabook.

I don't use Scuolabook

I don't use Scuolabook

lucky you.

Meh.... we used normal PDFs for college/schools.

You are very lucky

We have to remove the DRM to get a school book in pdf

We have to remove the DRM to get a school book in pdf

Why?

Why?

Italian school is bad

If your school books are in pdf in your country is easy to pirate it

Oh, the big books are in the library. PDFs for the average stuff, and lessons prepared by professors.

You can find them as PDF but often it's not really worth it as professors not always use the whole thing.

Mh, i can't get in pdf format neither my geography book

Wow.

Are you high school? University? Else?

Just curiosity.

High school

Oh.

No, high schools in Uruguay are like "These are the books for the year (huge massive things). But don't worry, we'll only use 3 chapters from each book" Fuck logic.

Oh, wow

Professors often tell you "You don't need to buy the book, we're not going to use it all."

So they give you a pre-chewed version of the parts they're going to use. Or some spare chapters. Or just pointed you to the closest library or second hand bookshop.

We have to remove the DRM to get a school book in pdf

Ypu could do that with calibre + a hack, right? (Not 100℅ ethical, but neither is drm, imho)

Professors often tell you "You don't need to buy the book, we're not going to use it all."

This isn't a bad practice for informatic' books

Ypu could do that with calibre + a hack, right? (Not 100℅ ethical, but neither is drm, imho)

Ok, but the problem is the hack

No, high schools in Uruguay are like "These are the books for the year (huge massive things). But don't worry, we'll only use 3 chapters from each book" Fuck logic.

Yeah, we had some subjects like that last year here too ( that didn't affect me much, coz I love big books, loved them since I was a kid). I also got PDF copies and stored what hard copies I had to use in my lockers ..

So they give you a pre-chewed version of the parts they're going to use. Or some spare chapters. Or just pointed you to the closest library or second hand bookshop.

Second hand or loaned books, from seniors are excellent resources, as are xerox copies (regular sized), but neither of those credit the authors or the publisher ..

This isn't a bad practice for informatic' books

No, well, if you're doing informatics, so you already finished high school, then professors will give you a list of recommended books to read. But they're not mandatory, is for you to have the theoretical background. You're expected to read and practice between classes. But if you don't have the books, it's okay, or if you prefer to read others in the same subject is okay as well.

Second hand or loaned books, from seniors are excellent resources, as are xerox copies (regular sized), but neither of those credit the authors or the publisher ..

I seriously doubt that anyone cares about crediting....

Ok, but the problem is the hack

I'm afraid I don't do DRM, but google can help you with that. (I borrow or pirate most of the books I need, usually after buying a hard copy, so I can have the books on the go)

I'm afraid I don't do DRM, but google can help you with that. (I borrow or pirate most of the books I need, usually after buying a hard copy, so I can have the books on the go)

This is legit

I seriously doubt that anyone cares about crediting....

I like to write stuff, so....

Yeah, we had some subjects like that last year here too ( that didn't affect me much, coz I love big books, loved them since I was a kid). I also got PDF copies and stored what hard copies I had to use in my lockers ..

Lockers? What's that?

Lockers? What's that?

Have you seen bank safes? Similar, with less security, to simplify it....

I like to write stuff, so....

I love writing stuff too. But books are very expensive and salaries are low. There aren't many options.

Have you seen bank safes? Similar, with less security, to simplify it....

But where? What for?

I love writing stuff too. But books are very expensive and salaries are low. There aren't many options.

True, yeah. (Medical books are even more expensive, esp if I have to get standard American authored books living in India)

But where? What for?

At my college/ hospital. For storing stuff, dental equipment, books, even lunch, if you're in a pinch.

Anyway, loaned or second hand do have the authors credits on it. Photocopies for educational purposes are allowed as long as it's only a part and not the whole thing.

At my college/ hospital. For storing stuff, dental equipment, books, even lunch, if you're in a pinch.

Weird. I never seen that.

We carry our stuff in our bags.

What for a locker?

Anyway, loaned or second hand do have the authors credits on it. Photocopies for educational purposes are allowed as long as it's only a part and not the whole thing.

That's not how I mean it. The authors don't get monetary compensation for two people using the book. (This is an ethical grey area, yeah, but this is mostly my pedantic nature talking)

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That's not how I mean it. The authors don't get monetary compensation for two people using the book. (This is an ethical grey area, yeah, but this is mostly my pedantic nature talking)

Oh, well.... but overpriced as textbooks are in Uruguay, they already got money for 10 students in first place.

We carry our stuff in our bags.

Our bags get heavy. We need to carry a lot of stuff... We get different postings in the mornings and afternoons, so carrying the instruments and equipment for both is cumbersome.

Oh...

Oh, well.... but overpriced as textbooks are in Uruguay, they already got money for 10 students in first place.

Yeah, I shared that pain. (For us, US price + import duty to India)

No, medicine students use the instruments and equipment from University, they don't carry their own.

Yeah, I shared that pain. (For us, US price + import duty to India)

In Uruguay, just the pleasure of milking students. Usually the national books are the most expensive. Which doesn't make sense at all but....

No, medicine students use the instruments and equipment from University, they don't carry their own.

We are dentists, we purchase most stuff, and are responsible for sterilizing/ disinfecting, using and maintaining our own stuff.(that's the system here, and it's just easier)

In Uruguay, just the pleasure of milking students. Usually the national books are the most expensive. Which doesn't make sense at all but....

National, meaning government ordered/ aided? Yeah....

We are dentists, we purchase most stuff, and are responsible for sterilizing/ disinfecting, using and maintaining our own stuff.(that's the system here, and it's just easier)

Some big hard-to-maintain, expensive equipment is available for everyone, but most smaller equipment and dental material, like cements, impression material, and tooth filling stuff, and artificial teeth, we carry. Which still amounts to a lot, at the end of the day ..

National, meaning government ordered/ aided? Yeah....

Meaning government ordered or just written by Uruguayan authors on a subject that is used in courses. If it's the only book available over a certain subject, even if it's not the "official textbook" it will be priced as if it was made out of gold.

Meaning government ordered or just written by Uruguayan authors on a subject that is used in courses. If it's the only book available over a certain subject, even if it's not the "official textbook" it will be priced as if it was made out of gold.

Ugh. Have you tried digital copies? How do the profs feel about those? PDFs or epubs on your phone? Or computer/ tablet, etc.

We are dentists, we purchase most stuff, and are responsible for sterilizing/ disinfecting, using and maintaining our own stuff.(that's the system here, and it's just easier)

Mmmh... as far as I can recall, my mother had small case with instruments but when she was already advanced. In the first years, you just use the stuff from university.

On a few high school digital ebooks are permits

In my country

In my country

Where are you from? Didn't backread, so i apologize if you've answered that before.

Mmmh... as far as I can recall, my mother had small case with instruments but when she was already advanced. In the first years, you just use the stuff from university.

You're mother is a dentist too?

Where are you from? Didn't backread, so i apologize if you've answered that before.

I am from italy

I am from italy

Oh okkk. I see digital books being welcomed more and more, even into my college, which is full of fossils(profs)

Saves time, energy, load, and best, for me, trees.

I think that school Books should be free for who want to study

I think that school Books should be free for who want to study

Yeap. That should be more well spread like the Foss stuff...

Ugh. Have you tried digital copies? How do the profs feel about those? PDFs or epubs on your phone? Or computer/ tablet, etc.

Well, it's funny... in certain areas like sciences and history, professors often are authors of said books, so they just give their students copies and carry on as usual. It's not possible to live on investigation in Uruguay, you need to work on something else. Anyway, high school professors usually tell you where to get the books or give you the PDF or tell you about libraries.... They know full well their students are always in the brink of dropping, so their aim is pushing as far in the system as they can, so at least you'll have a chance to get a job instead of robbing grannies or something like that.

Not that it works like clockwork, but well. They do their best.

Well, it's funny... in certain areas like sciences and history, professors often are authors of said books, so they just give their students copies and carry on as usual. It's not possible to live on investigation in Uruguay, you need to work on something else. Anyway, high school professors usually tell you where to get the books or give you the PDF or tell you about libraries.... They know full well their students are always in the brink of dropping, so their aim is pushing as far in the system as they can, so at least you'll have a chance to get a job instead of robbing grannies or something like that.

Oh wow, that escalated quickly.

Not that it works like clockwork, but well. They do their best.

Only so much people can do, yeah...

You're mother is a dentist too?

She wanted to be, but didn't like it after a time and changed careers. She got a degree in children's medicine. I can't recall the English name.

Speaking of good online resources, slideshare deserves a mention too...

Yes, true.

She wanted to be, but didn't like it after a time and changed careers. She got a degree in children's medicine. I can't recall the English name.

Paediatrics? That's actually incredibly cool, I'm very interested in pedodontics, the dental equivalent, and one of my best friend's, uncle is one too...

Weird. I never seen that.

US high schools often have them. Sort of like this:

Yes, that's it. Paediatrics.

Well, it's funny... in certain areas like sciences and history, professors often are authors of said books, so they just give their students copies and carry on as usual. It's not possible to live on investigation in Uruguay, you need to work on something else. Anyway, high school professors usually tell you where to get the books or give you the PDF or tell you about libraries.... They know full well their students are always in the brink of dropping, so their aim is pushing as far in the system as they can, so at least you'll have a chance to get a job instead of robbing grannies or something like that.

I'm also sorry to hear this. I wish there was an alternative.