Meybe

Only?

Sorry im new on fedora

You can use the software center

And look what other packages related with zsh you need

@jflory hey, @Kohane please grab the most recent ISO by date in the name or timestamp. We will clean up the old ones soon. Keep in mind the dates are in year, month, day format

Yes, thanks

@N0Ze_R0 all the zsh packages: ( pick what you need)

zsh.x86_64 5.4.1-1.fc27 @fedora zsh-html.noarch 5.4.1-1.fc27 @fedora zsh-lovers.noarch 0.9.0-5.fc27 @fedora zsh-syntax-highlighting.noarch 0.6.0-1.fc27 @fedora

I personally use the heck out of the -syntax and lovers packages as well

How to install zsh instaead of bash on fedora?

sudo dnf install zsh sudo lchsh $username answer /bin/zsh

Wtf fedora full of preinstalled programs that i don't want

Dnf purge nameprogram for uninstall?

@N0Ze_R0 first off WATCH the Language

Wtf fedora full of preinstalled programs that i don't want

If you want a lite fedora you could install fedor minimal.

Dnf purge nameprogram for uninstall?

dnf erase or dnf -e

@N0Ze_R0 first off WATCH the Language

Wtf is not really any problematic term

Short of a customized or netinstalled ISO install NO Generally Available ISO will be setup 'just for you' It is loaded with things the GENERAL USERBASE have deemed needed/desired, if you wish to not use them dnf remove $application and be done with it.

Dnf purge nameprogram for uninstall?

dnf remove name and make sure it doesnt delete too much

Sorry

dnf remove name and make sure it doesnt delete too much

Ok

@N0Ze_R0 abbreviated or not if it's not something genrally deemed family friendly pls refrain in the main channel, if you pm someone and you are both okay with such langauge leave it OUT of the main channel pls.

@N0Ze_R0 abbreviated or not if it's not something genrally deemed family friendly pls refrain in the main channel, if you pm someone and you are both okay with such langauge leave it OUT of the main channel pls.

What the fuck is not a problematic term imho.

Its widely spread and understood

none the less it's nto tolerated here

none the less it's nto tolerated here

I see no rule for that

that is the channel rule(s)

See nothing that'd restrict wtf there.

@N0Ze_R0 abbreviated or not if it's not something genrally deemed family friendly pls refrain in the main channel, if you pm someone and you are both okay with such langauge leave it OUT of the main channel pls.

Im sorry

right click and 'unlock' the bar and move and then relock it

That is nothing that'd restrict wtf to my eyes.

the being respectful part is

And come on, we aren't the language police to censor the word "fuck" when its a commonly known term for showing your strong disbelief in what just happened.

There might be young children or elderly people in this group who'll feel uncomfortable to such things. It's better to not use such terms.

that includes langauge

the being respectful part is

I've seen no such thing.

For "fuck his shit" i might agree but not on wtf

I meant this

Lol im noob

For "fuck his shit" i might agree but not on wtf

@Kohane you might want to deal with this.

@N0Ze_R0 yeah right click the taskbar and unlock the bar then you can drag it aroudn to wherever you desire then relock it

._.

You can put a separator before and after it, and expand them, this should work, but it's been a while since I've used Xfce, not sure how it aligns

In theory, it should be exactly centered

Also, why is everyone suddenly slamming down on language? It's not just what you say, it's HOW you say it... I think context is more important.

For "fuck his shit" i might agree but not on wtf

Tobias what is common for you is not common for everyone. We are not asking you to not show astonishment (positive or negative) just to watch your language to ensure we are able to include as many people as possible, including you. Even if you don't see the problem, clearly others have and in this case you have a lot of other word choice options. Please respect the others around you so that conversation is positive and good for all, even when you are expressing disbelief at events or opinions. Remember, we talk about ideas, not people and we do so civily.

Tobias what is common for you is not common for everyone. We are not asking you to not show astonishment (positive or negative) just to watch your language to ensure we are able to include as many people as possible, including you. Even if you don't see the problem, clearly others have and in this case you have a lot of other word choice options. Please respect the others around you so that conversation is positive and good for all, even when you are expressing disbelief at events or opinions. Remember, we talk about ideas, not people and we do so civily.

Alright, then is there a list of words or phrases that can't be used?

@Kohane I've responded above - thank you

Because apparently "wtf" was an issue. Would you agree that's an offensive or disrespectful term?

Tobias what is common for you is not common for everyone. We are not asking you to not show astonishment (positive or negative) just to watch your language to ensure we are able to include as many people as possible, including you. Even if you don't see the problem, clearly others have and in this case you have a lot of other word choice options. Please respect the others around you so that conversation is positive and good for all, even when you are expressing disbelief at events or opinions. Remember, we talk about ideas, not people and we do so civily.

It was not even my language

Alright, then is there a list of words or phrases that can't be used?

We look for words and phrases that are commonly used in all social situations. We do not maintain a bad list as that is a never ending excerise for boundary seekers.

Or are we just winging it

Wtf fedora full of preinstalled programs that i don't want

If you read the thread it was this post that started it.

@bexelbie

@Schyken generally speaking it's anything you'd nto speak around a young child ( international social norm)

It was not even my language

I reacted to you based on what I was told - I am sorry that I missed the original start of the thread.

Seems like people are more interested in finding a problem with something than there even being a problem, but whatever. ?‍♀️

I reacted to you based on what I was told - I am sorry that I missed the original start of the thread.

I am on the webclient today and the scroll back is a bit haphazard

I reacted to you based on what I was told - I am sorry that I missed the original start of the thread.

But i'd still argue that something so harsh as by linuxmodder wasnt needed, especially since there was no malicious intent from nozero

I am on the webclient today and the scroll back is a bit haphazard

Scrollback is awful on Telegram Web ?

And if anybody thinks that kids may be damaged by "wtf" they should visit a school sometime. XD

@Wolfshappen was not meant as harsh, nor was it intended to be seen as such but we ALL have a duty to police each other or no one will

@Wolfshappen was not meant as harsh, nor was it intended to be seen as such but we ALL have a duty to police each other or no one will

Even for commonly known and publically accepted terms?

But i'd still argue that something so harsh as by linuxmodder wasnt needed, especially since there was no malicious intent from nozero

I am sure we can chase this down a rabbit hole of judging harshness, or we can continue with the idea that we follow norms of behavior that have wide social applicability. My specific word choice amongst may mates over a beer is not necessarily the same as what I would choose at work. I think we can all agree.

Do words and thoughts not exist by playing eyes closed?

ERROR: S client not available

I also firmly believe that all of us come from cultures where directness varies a lot - and we have to stretch to read with good intent

and that is a key point too - assume good intent until proven otherwise

Even for commonly known and publically accepted terms?

You can gamesay this conversation all day - I suspect that even you recognize that there is not common acceptance universally for all of humanity on that term.

We can be very expressive and really talk about ideas and help each other solve problems or challenges without having to use language that is exclusionary

For "fuck his shit" i might agree but not on wtf

Sorry, I wasn't here. Fuck whose shit?

Scrollback is awful on Telegram Web ?

and today the robotic floorsweeper we got is continually lodging itself under hte hammock - it keeps crying out for help :P

Perhaps Telegram Web and it are talking

Sorry, I wasn't here. Fuck whose shit?

Noones as that was what i'd see as justified for being questionable of language

Scroll up, the start was a "wtf" and a discussion if that was justified to be policed by linuxmodder with the fierce-ity he had

In other news: F27 Updated Lives are available: https://tx.fspin.org/Testing/20171214/

You can gamesay this conversation all day - I suspect that even you recognize that there is not common acceptance universally for all of humanity on that term.

Yes but still. "The fuck is happening" is nothing i'd ever police in a english-mains chat for "watch your language"

will be moved to the usual link later today / early am

Next up its "holy hell" for referencing something not everyone is comfortable with? Its just, for the sake, dont be this freaking harsh (linuxmodder)

Are you all arguing for a cursing?

Are you all arguing for a cursing?

Pretty much

Are you all arguing for a cursing?

Apparently one person had an issue with "wtf", so yeah.

Oh the new tg also shows "admin" next to admins names

That's... silly

That's... silly

Thats what i'm saying

Wat when i try to install something terminal write that im Not in sudoers file

Wat when i try to install something terminal write that im Not in sudoers file

That's not ideal :P

Okay, don't call me for this. I have better things to do than working as language police. For God's sake, I thought it was a serious issue.

That's not ideal :P

Was your user created as an admin user?

Was your user created as an admin user?

I think not

Wat when i try to install something terminal write that im Not in sudoers file

Your user account has no admin rights. Did you install and set a root password?

Yep

If yes you can type su and enter the root password

That will give you access to the root account

Wat when i try to install something terminal write that im Not in sudoers file

Because your user surely isn't marked as administrator. type su, your root password and do whatever you need

will be moved to the usual link later today / early am

What is hte usual link?

https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins ( short url: http://tinyurl.com/live-respins)

https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins ( short url: http://tinyurl.com/live-respins)

Are these built in the Fedora build system?